Copa Rayados Aug 24 - schedule?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People from true football cultures and folks from soccer cultures will never see eye to eye on this one.

True football cultures grew up on scrimmages with any team decent around. Especially if your team had a training pitch big enough.

Why do you need a fancy facility and paid referees to play a game to work on tactics and development?

I want nothing to do with "true football cultures.' Nothing. Kids play soccer. Not football. Keep your game away from mine.

I may be wrong, but, I believe it's the same game.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Paid to get it on paper rather than an unknown friendly I guess. Makes no sense to me either, I wonder if these pre-season tournaments/friendlies whatever you want to call it were a thing years ago, or if this is just another thing clubs decided to add to generate revenue.

For the older ages, these friendlies give the coach or a new coach time to try new formations, new players, different positions before it matters - ECNL/GA league play. Players begin to develop chemistry as a team. Players are competing for minutes on the field, starting positions at these friendlies and scrims. It sets the expectations for the next month or more before showcases. These are not a waste of time of the recruiting age teams.

Maybe your kids are too young for these matter, but for older ages, these games are just as important as league matches. But if you are already complaining about driving an hour or wasted time or money to clubs, playing in ECNL will not bode well for you as the kids get older.
Jump out now and enjoy the game before ECNL ruins it for you.

You missed the point. Local teams can coordinate friendlies with other local teams for free without having to pay for expensive tournaments.

1 -- Tournaments not expensive as PPs have pointed out. Reasonable prices

2 -- The flake factor is real without a tournament. Even for top teams. People think they can just cancel.

3 -- There is a scrimmage feel for players and there is a game feel. Pros and kids. Tournaments give you more of a game feel which is what a coach wants to see at this point in time.

4 -- In this area people go on vacation in the summer. A lot. Parents more likely to go with kids if a scrimmage rather than a Showcase or tournament. You have to manage your people.

5 -- More fun for kids to play in a tournament which is fun rather than a scrimmage which is more like practice.

Tournament organizer has entered the chat.

Typical lazy thinking. The fact that people have incentives to make an argument does not undermine the argument, just as the fact that you don't want to spend your time and money make your argument wrong. Do better please.

Does your back hurt from twisting yourself in knots to come up with that word salad?! Calling someone lazy because they don’t agree with your view is priceless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People from true football cultures and folks from soccer cultures will never see eye to eye on this one.

True football cultures grew up on scrimmages with any team decent around. Especially if your team had a training pitch big enough.

Why do you need a fancy facility and paid referees to play a game to work on tactics and development?

I want nothing to do with "true football cultures.' Nothing. Kids play soccer. Not football. Keep your game away from mine.

I may be wrong, but, I believe it's the same game.

Not if you listen to people on DCUM!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can appreciate the comments about developing soccer/football culture in the U.S.

The reality is many families do not have the luxury of time to wait around for that in helping their kids develop. So they work with what we have which is a pay to play and develop system. This will not change so long as college soccer (at all levels) continue to be a uniquely American option for many kids and the primary goal for those who continue to play club soccer.

Sure, reality will hit when more colleges take intl students but I would not be surprised if lobbying curtails those schools ability to do this.

On the girls side the goal of all but a small number is college. Some people want to play for a top soccer school, others their local state schools, some for fun schools, some for high academic. Every girl has a different plan. None of the plans for 98% of the player is to go pro. That is why girls play ecnl and ga. On the Men's side international has taken over college soccer. There are still slots but they have been shrinking in numbers. On the Women's side there has been no big movement of international women to US colleges. One reason is that for most international girls going pro is what they want. The ones coming now to US colleges are the ones that want a US college degree to go do something else just like 98% of ECNL and GA. I do not think that will change. That is the US soccer culture below those that want to go pro. And for the Men -- as those college teams get more international they will start to lose support from the athletic departments and Men's soccer will be cut. Men's college soccer can keep going international and they will play themselves right out of existence. The Women are safe because of the football teams and the need for crazy numbers there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dumb question. Why is every team not playing every team. Or why aren’t there more brackets? It doesn’t seem fair that some teams play 4 times while others play twice.

So these local teams paid to play each other when teams like Arlington drove over an hour to play SYC and ASA when they could have just played each other for free at like Hayfield or Pentagon City or Witter?

Not to mention the $22 in roundtrip toll fees ($44 for the weekend). What a racket the Toll Road and Greenway are!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People from true football cultures and folks from soccer cultures will never see eye to eye on this one.

True football cultures grew up on scrimmages with any team decent around. Especially if your team had a training pitch big enough.

Why do you need a fancy facility and paid referees to play a game to work on tactics and development?

I want nothing to do with "true football cultures.' Nothing. Kids play soccer. Not football. Keep your game away from mine.

I may be wrong, but, I believe it's the same game.

Not if you listen to people on DCUM!

Well, 7-11 sushi and michelin star sushi in Tokyo are both sushi 😄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can appreciate the comments about developing soccer/football culture in the U.S.

The reality is many families do not have the luxury of time to wait around for that in helping their kids develop. So they work with what we have which is a pay to play and develop system. This will not change so long as college soccer (at all levels) continue to be a uniquely American option for many kids and the primary goal for those who continue to play club soccer.

Sure, reality will hit when more colleges take intl students but I would not be surprised if lobbying curtails those schools ability to do this.

On the girls side the goal of all but a small number is college. Some people want to play for a top soccer school, others their local state schools, some for fun schools, some for high academic. Every girl has a different plan. None of the plans for 98% of the player is to go pro. That is why girls play ecnl and ga. On the Men's side international has taken over college soccer. There are still slots but they have been shrinking in numbers. On the Women's side there has been no big movement of international women to US colleges. One reason is that for most international girls going pro is what they want. The ones coming now to US colleges are the ones that want a US college degree to go do something else just like 98% of ECNL and GA. I do not think that will change. That is the US soccer culture below those that want to go pro. And for the Men -- as those college teams get more international they will start to lose support from the athletic departments and Men's soccer will be cut. Men's college soccer can keep going international and they will play themselves right out of existence. The Women are safe because of the football teams and the need for crazy numbers there.

Thanks for putting in so much effort to makeup all that crap about men's soccer getting cut because International players are getting recruited (that only been heavily going on since the 70's)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can appreciate the comments about developing soccer/football culture in the U.S.

The reality is many families do not have the luxury of time to wait around for that in helping their kids develop. So they work with what we have which is a pay to play and develop system. This will not change so long as college soccer (at all levels) continue to be a uniquely American option for many kids and the primary goal for those who continue to play club soccer.

Sure, reality will hit when more colleges take intl students but I would not be surprised if lobbying curtails those schools ability to do this.

On the girls side the goal of all but a small number is college. Some people want to play for a top soccer school, others their local state schools, some for fun schools, some for high academic. Every girl has a different plan. None of the plans for 98% of the player is to go pro. That is why girls play ecnl and ga. On the Men's side international has taken over college soccer. There are still slots but they have been shrinking in numbers. On the Women's side there has been no big movement of international women to US colleges. One reason is that for most international girls going pro is what they want. The ones coming now to US colleges are the ones that want a US college degree to go do something else just like 98% of ECNL and GA. I do not think that will change. That is the US soccer culture below those that want to go pro. And for the Men -- as those college teams get more international they will start to lose support from the athletic departments and Men's soccer will be cut. Men's college soccer can keep going international and they will play themselves right out of existence. The Women are safe because of the football teams and the need for crazy numbers there.

Thanks for putting in so much effort to makeup all that crap about men's soccer getting cut because International players are getting recruited (that only been heavily going on since the 70's)

Sure. But the cost structure imposed by the settlement changes everything. Men’s soccer will be cut almost everywhere in the next few years. And there will be no US alumni base to defend it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can appreciate the comments about developing soccer/football culture in the U.S.

The reality is many families do not have the luxury of time to wait around for that in helping their kids develop. So they work with what we have which is a pay to play and develop system. This will not change so long as college soccer (at all levels) continue to be a uniquely American option for many kids and the primary goal for those who continue to play club soccer.

Sure, reality will hit when more colleges take intl students but I would not be surprised if lobbying curtails those schools ability to do this.

On the girls side the goal of all but a small number is college. Some people want to play for a top soccer school, others their local state schools, some for fun schools, some for high academic. Every girl has a different plan. None of the plans for 98% of the player is to go pro. That is why girls play ecnl and ga. On the Men's side international has taken over college soccer. There are still slots but they have been shrinking in numbers. On the Women's side there has been no big movement of international women to US colleges. One reason is that for most international girls going pro is what they want. The ones coming now to US colleges are the ones that want a US college degree to go do something else just like 98% of ECNL and GA. I do not think that will change. That is the US soccer culture below those that want to go pro. And for the Men -- as those college teams get more international they will start to lose support from the athletic departments and Men's soccer will be cut. Men's college soccer can keep going international and they will play themselves right out of existence. The Women are safe because of the football teams and the need for crazy numbers there.

Thanks for putting in so much effort to makeup all that crap about men's soccer getting cut because International players are getting recruited (that only been heavily going on since the 70's)

Sure. But the cost structure imposed by the settlement changes everything. Men’s soccer will be cut almost everywhere in the next few years. And there will be no US alumni base to defend it.

Moon landing was done in a studio

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can appreciate the comments about developing soccer/football culture in the U.S.

The reality is many families do not have the luxury of time to wait around for that in helping their kids develop. So they work with what we have which is a pay to play and develop system. This will not change so long as college soccer (at all levels) continue to be a uniquely American option for many kids and the primary goal for those who continue to play club soccer.

Sure, reality will hit when more colleges take intl students but I would not be surprised if lobbying curtails those schools ability to do this.

On the girls side the goal of all but a small number is college. Some people want to play for a top soccer school, others their local state schools, some for fun schools, some for high academic. Every girl has a different plan. None of the plans for 98% of the player is to go pro. That is why girls play ecnl and ga. On the Men's side international has taken over college soccer. There are still slots but they have been shrinking in numbers. On the Women's side there has been no big movement of international women to US colleges. One reason is that for most international girls going pro is what they want. The ones coming now to US colleges are the ones that want a US college degree to go do something else just like 98% of ECNL and GA. I do not think that will change. That is the US soccer culture below those that want to go pro. And for the Men -- as those college teams get more international they will start to lose support from the athletic departments and Men's soccer will be cut. Men's college soccer can keep going international and they will play themselves right out of existence. The Women are safe because of the football teams and the need for crazy numbers there.

Thanks for putting in so much effort to makeup all that crap about men's soccer getting cut because International players are getting recruited (that only been heavily going on since the 70's)

Sure. But the cost structure imposed by the settlement changes everything. Men’s soccer will be cut almost everywhere in the next few years. And there will be no US alumni base to defend it.

Moon landing was done in a studio

If you don't agree fine. But some sports are getting cut. Men's soccer leads the pack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can appreciate the comments about developing soccer/football culture in the U.S.

The reality is many families do not have the luxury of time to wait around for that in helping their kids develop. So they work with what we have which is a pay to play and develop system. This will not change so long as college soccer (at all levels) continue to be a uniquely American option for many kids and the primary goal for those who continue to play club soccer.

Sure, reality will hit when more colleges take intl students but I would not be surprised if lobbying curtails those schools ability to do this.

On the girls side the goal of all but a small number is college. Some people want to play for a top soccer school, others their local state schools, some for fun schools, some for high academic. Every girl has a different plan. None of the plans for 98% of the player is to go pro. That is why girls play ecnl and ga. On the Men's side international has taken over college soccer. There are still slots but they have been shrinking in numbers. On the Women's side there has been no big movement of international women to US colleges. One reason is that for most international girls going pro is what they want. The ones coming now to US colleges are the ones that want a US college degree to go do something else just like 98% of ECNL and GA. I do not think that will change. That is the US soccer culture below those that want to go pro. And for the Men -- as those college teams get more international they will start to lose support from the athletic departments and Men's soccer will be cut. Men's college soccer can keep going international and they will play themselves right out of existence. The Women are safe because of the football teams and the need for crazy numbers there.

Thanks for putting in so much effort to makeup all that crap about men's soccer getting cut because International players are getting recruited (that only been heavily going on since the 70's)

Sure. But the cost structure imposed by the settlement changes everything. Men’s soccer will be cut almost everywhere in the next few years. And there will be no US alumni base to defend it.

Moon landing was done in a studio

If you don't agree fine. But some sports are getting cut. Men's soccer leads the pack.

JFK was killed by the CIA

[Anonymous]

and RFK too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can appreciate the comments about developing soccer/football culture in the U.S.

The reality is many families do not have the luxury of time to wait around for that in helping their kids develop. So they work with what we have which is a pay to play and develop system. This will not change so long as college soccer (at all levels) continue to be a uniquely American option for many kids and the primary goal for those who continue to play club soccer.

Sure, reality will hit when more colleges take intl students but I would not be surprised if lobbying curtails those schools ability to do this.

On the girls side the goal of all but a small number is college. Some people want to play for a top soccer school, others their local state schools, some for fun schools, some for high academic. Every girl has a different plan. None of the plans for 98% of the player is to go pro. That is why girls play ecnl and ga. On the Men's side international has taken over college soccer. There are still slots but they have been shrinking in numbers. On the Women's side there has been no big movement of international women to US colleges. One reason is that for most international girls going pro is what they want. The ones coming now to US colleges are the ones that want a US college degree to go do something else just like 98% of ECNL and GA. I do not think that will change. That is the US soccer culture below those that want to go pro. And for the Men -- as those college teams get more international they will start to lose support from the athletic departments and Men's soccer will be cut. Men's college soccer can keep going international and they will play themselves right out of existence. The Women are safe because of the football teams and the need for crazy numbers there.

Thanks for putting in so much effort to makeup all that crap about men's soccer getting cut because International players are getting recruited (that only been heavily going on since the 70's)

Sure. But the cost structure imposed by the settlement changes everything. Men’s soccer will be cut almost everywhere in the next few years. And there will be no US alumni base to defend it.

Moon landing was done in a studio

If you don't agree fine. But some sports are getting cut. Men's soccer leads the pack.

JFK was killed by the CIA

Confirmed. I read that on DCUM so it's got to be true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can appreciate the comments about developing soccer/football culture in the U.S.

The reality is many families do not have the luxury of time to wait around for that in helping their kids develop. So they work with what we have which is a pay to play and develop system. This will not change so long as college soccer (at all levels) continue to be a uniquely American option for many kids and the primary goal for those who continue to play club soccer.

Sure, reality will hit when more colleges take intl students but I would not be surprised if lobbying curtails those schools ability to do this.

On the girls side the goal of all but a small number is college. Some people want to play for a top soccer school, others their local state schools, some for fun schools, some for high academic. Every girl has a different plan. None of the plans for 98% of the player is to go pro. That is why girls play ecnl and ga. On the Men's side international has taken over college soccer. There are still slots but they have been shrinking in numbers. On the Women's side there has been no big movement of international women to US colleges. One reason is that for most international girls going pro is what they want. The ones coming now to US colleges are the ones that want a US college degree to go do something else just like 98% of ECNL and GA. I do not think that will change. That is the US soccer culture below those that want to go pro. And for the Men -- as those college teams get more international they will start to lose support from the athletic departments and Men's soccer will be cut. Men's college soccer can keep going international and they will play themselves right out of existence. The Women are safe because of the football teams and the need for crazy numbers there.

Thanks for putting in so much effort to makeup all that crap about men's soccer getting cut because International players are getting recruited (that only been heavily going on since the 70's)

Sure. But the cost structure imposed by the settlement changes everything. Men’s soccer will be cut almost everywhere in the next few years. And there will be no US alumni base to defend it.

Moon landing was done in a studio

If you don't agree fine. But some sports are getting cut. Men's soccer leads the pack.

JFK was killed by the CIA

Confirmed. I read that on DCUM so it's got to be true

He was not. He was killed by the Mafia. This is known.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Paid to get it on paper rather than an unknown friendly I guess. Makes no sense to me either, I wonder if these pre-season tournaments/friendlies whatever you want to call it were a thing years ago, or if this is just another thing clubs decided to add to generate revenue.

For the older ages, these friendlies give the coach or a new coach time to try new formations, new players, different positions before it matters - ECNL/GA league play. Players begin to develop chemistry as a team. Players are competing for minutes on the field, starting positions at these friendlies and scrims. It sets the expectations for the next month or more before showcases. These are not a waste of time of the recruiting age teams.

Maybe your kids are too young for these matter, but for older ages, these games are just as important as league matches. But if you are already complaining about driving an hour or wasted time or money to clubs, playing in ECNL will not bode well for you as the kids get older.
Jump out now and enjoy the game before ECNL ruins it for you.

You missed the point. Local teams can coordinate friendlies with other local teams for free without having to pay for expensive tournaments.

Tournament fees are very little. It costs $150 a game just to have referees. After that you are paying a little but get nice fields, organization, and a more “real game” feel than a friendly on your practice field with coaches as referees.

Pay-to-play has you firmly in its grips.
You actually believe all you're saying.

You're a P2P hostage with Stockholm Syndrome

And your a cheap a— complaining about everything so there’s that too lol!