WHO? New Democratic Nominee Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Pete Buttigieg

LOL middle america is not voting for a openly gay man

Do you forget that middle America voted him in as mayor?

As mayor. Can you really see middle America being okay with two men greeting heads of state at state dinners? I'm sure they are a lovely couple but that isn't going to happen.

He was elected mayor in 2012. He came out in 2015, 5 months before his re-election. Probably half the city didn't know it yet during re-election. And south bend is a city, haven't you heard of the urban archipelago model of American politics.

I actually don't think him being mayor is a problem. I think him coming across as sort of stiff and McKinsey-like is the problem.

Also him taking a lot of time off during the airplane crisis a few years ago. I don't think that looked great. (Yes I support family leave! I think him taking that much time during that bad a period - and sort of doing it covertly - didn't look great.) His husband seems like a great, warm person.

He's really effective as a surrogate going on Fox. I don't think he could win a national election. I wish he could do the debates, that said - he'd tear Trump apart.

^ Him being gay, not him being mayor

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Polls are showing an uptick in disapproval of Biden since the debate. And a slight advantage to Trump in Presidential election polls.

At the same period during the last Presidential campaign, Biden was statistically ahead of Trump.

Biden has to see the light and step aside.

We should wait until we see polling done after this weekend’s Sunday shows for the full effect. I assume they are going to be BRUTAL.

We have had polling that the Biden and the DNC willfully ignored. Here is an AP poll LAST AUGUST -- that's right 2023 -- showing that:

"fully 77% said Biden is too old to be effective for four more years. Not only do 89% of Republicans say that, so do 69% of Democrats. That view is held across age groups, not just by young people, though older Democrats specifically are more supportive of his 2024 bid."



https://apnews.com/article/biden-age-poll-tru...39a6448f607c17c7f23e

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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats could choose a candidate that doesn't make the young voters want to end it all, it'd be amazing. Seriously, there is no benefit for any young person to vote in this upcoming election.

I agree, but whenever people make these suggestions, the haters shout them down. "Bernie is too extreme! Schumer is a pipe dream! Pete has no experience!" It's like the old guard wants to lose as long as they can continue to call ALL the shots.

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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats could choose a candidate that doesn't make the young voters want to end it all, it'd be amazing. Seriously, there is no benefit for any young person to vote in this upcoming election.

I agree, but whenever people make these suggestions, the haters shout them down. "Bernie is too extreme! Schumer is a pipe dream! Pete has no experience!" It's like the old guard wants to lose as long as they can continue to call ALL the shots.

Bernie IS too extreme. Schumer isn't anyone's pipe dream. Pete didn't get anywhere the last time he tried to run for president. Are you desperate to lose? I am not desperate to lose.

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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats could choose a candidate that doesn't make the young voters want to end it all, it'd be amazing. Seriously, there is no benefit for any young person to vote in this upcoming election.

I agree, but whenever people make these suggestions, the haters shout them down. "Bernie is too extreme! Schumer is a pipe dream! Pete has no experience!" It's like the old guard wants to lose as long as they can continue to call ALL the shots.

Bernie IS too extreme. Schumer isn't anyone's pipe dream. Pete didn't get anywhere the last time he tried to run for president. Are you desperate to lose? I am not desperate to lose.

Schumer and Pete aren't ideal candidates but they are obviously better than Trump or Biden. Bernie is older than Biden so no. The only losers at this point are people that think Trump or Biden are our best options for POTUS until 2029.

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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats could choose a candidate that doesn't make the young voters want to end it all, it'd be amazing. Seriously, there is no benefit for any young person to vote in this upcoming election.

I agree, but whenever people make these suggestions, the haters shout them down. "Bernie is too extreme! Schumer is a pipe dream! Pete has no experience!" It's like the old guard wants to lose as long as they can continue to call ALL the shots.

Bernie IS too extreme. Schumer isn't anyone's pipe dream. Pete didn't get anywhere the last time he tried to run for president. Are you desperate to lose? I am not desperate to lose.

The Dems are going to eventually lose from voter apathy across the youth. We had record highs in 2020 from promises that were actually kept. It'd be great if Biden would say 1 thing for youth voters. Young liberals do not care about immigration. Their entry level roles are not competing with immigrant labor and they don't fear their undocumented friends that they grew up with. They do have stake on the economy going well, but many have gotten the message from tiktok that the president doesn't control that. Gun control is completely axed and they hate the supreme court. Anything with the climate is brownie points for this generation, just seriously give them a reason. They don't do the patriotic "unity" crap, it is just not convincing to a nihilistic cohort. Housing reform would have young voters shoot up with excitement, even if its an empty promise.

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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats could choose a candidate that doesn't make the young voters want to end it all, it'd be amazing. Seriously, there is no benefit for any young person to vote in this upcoming election.

I agree, but whenever people make these suggestions, the haters shout them down. "Bernie is too extreme! Schumer is a pipe dream! Pete has no experience!" It's like the old guard wants to lose as long as they can continue to call ALL the shots.

Bernie IS too extreme. Schumer isn't anyone's pipe dream. Pete didn't get anywhere the last time he tried to run for president. Are you desperate to lose? I am not desperate to lose.

Schumer and Pete aren't ideal candidates but they are obviously better than Trump or Biden. Bernie is older than Biden so no. The only losers at this point are people that think Trump or Biden are our best options for POTUS until 2029.

Schumer and Pete both share the liability of being a big "wow!" announcement that fizzles. Sorry of like Desantis was for the right. But I think their natural magnetism coupled by the unusual circumstances of this year's election temper those concerns.

Personally, with Schumer, I think you get equal parts steak and sizzle. With Pete, you get a dash less sizzle but much less steak.

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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats could choose a candidate that doesn't make the young voters want to end it all, it'd be amazing. Seriously, there is no benefit for any young person to vote in this upcoming election.

I agree, but whenever people make these suggestions, the haters shout them down. "Bernie is too extreme! Schumer is a pipe dream! Pete has no experience!" It's like the old guard wants to lose as long as they can continue to call ALL the shots.

Bernie IS too extreme. Schumer isn't anyone's pipe dream. Pete didn't get anywhere the last time he tried to run for president. Are you desperate to lose? I am not desperate to lose.

Schumer and Pete aren't ideal candidates but they are obviously better than Trump or Biden. Bernie is older than Biden so no. The only losers at this point are people that think Trump or Biden are our best options for POTUS until 2029.

Schumer and Pete both share the liability of being a big "wow!" announcement that fizzles. Sorry of like Desantis was for the right. But I think their natural magnetism coupled by the unusual circumstances of this year's election temper those concerns.

Personally, with Schumer, I think you get equal parts steak and sizzle. With Pete, you get a dash less sizzle but much less steak.

We're discussing alternative candidates to Trump and Biden. Everything is relative to them. Schumer and Pete look like Obama 2012 or Reagan 1984 next to Trump and Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats could choose a candidate that doesn't make the young voters want to end it all, it'd be amazing. Seriously, there is no benefit for any young person to vote in this upcoming election.

I agree, but whenever people make these suggestions, the haters shout them down. "Bernie is too extreme! Schumer is a pipe dream! Pete has no experience!" It's like the old guard wants to lose as long as they can continue to call ALL the shots.

Bernie IS too extreme. Schumer isn't anyone's pipe dream. Pete didn't get anywhere the last time he tried to run for president. Are you desperate to lose? I am not desperate to lose.

The Dems are going to eventually lose from voter apathy across the youth. We had record highs in 2020 from promises that were actually kept. It'd be great if Biden would say 1 thing for youth voters. Young liberals do not care about immigration. Their entry level roles are not competing with immigrant labor and they don't fear their undocumented friends that they grew up with. They do have stake on the economy going well, but many have gotten the message from tiktok that the president doesn't control that. Gun control is completely axed and they hate the supreme court. Anything with the climate is brownie points for this generation, just seriously give them a reason. They don't do the patriotic "unity" crap, it is just not convincing to a nihilistic cohort. Housing reform would have young voters shoot up with excitement, even if its an empty promise.

Young people don't like Bernie anymore either. They think he's too pro-Israeli - and he's totally invisible anymore. That big platform he had, and what's he used it for? So, good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats could choose a candidate that doesn't make the young voters want to end it all, it'd be amazing. Seriously, there is no benefit for any young person to vote in this upcoming election.

I agree, but whenever people make these suggestions, the haters shout them down. "Bernie is too extreme! Schumer is a pipe dream! Pete has no experience!" It's like the old guard wants to lose as long as they can continue to call ALL the shots.

Bernie IS too extreme. Schumer isn't anyone's pipe dream. Pete didn't get anywhere the last time he tried to run for president. Are you desperate to lose? I am not desperate to lose.

Schumer and Pete aren't ideal candidates but they are obviously better than Trump or Biden. Bernie is older than Biden so no. The only losers at this point are people that think Trump or Biden are our best options for POTUS until 2029.

Schumer and Pete both share the liability of being a big "wow!" announcement that fizzles. Sorry of like Desantis was for the right. But I think their natural magnetism coupled by the unusual circumstances of this year's election temper those concerns.

Personally, with Schumer, I think you get equal parts steak and sizzle. With Pete, you get a dash less sizzle but much less steak.

There's no sizzle or steak with either of them. FFS get your heads out of your NY/LA asses. PA, MI, WI and AZ are the ONLY states that matter. If someone does not appeal to those states more than old man Biden and Harris then there is no point and you need to circle the wagons around Joe.

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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats could choose a candidate that doesn't make the young voters want to end it all, it'd be amazing. Seriously, there is no benefit for any young person to vote in this upcoming election.

I agree, but whenever people make these suggestions, the haters shout them down. "Bernie is too extreme! Schumer is a pipe dream! Pete has no experience!" It's like the old guard wants to lose as long as they can continue to call ALL the shots.

Bernie IS too extreme. Schumer isn't anyone's pipe dream. Pete didn't get anywhere the last time he tried to run for president. Are you desperate to lose? I am not desperate to lose.

Schumer and Pete aren't ideal candidates but they are obviously better than Trump or Biden. Bernie is older than Biden so no. The only losers at this point are people that think Trump or Biden are our best options for POTUS until 2029.

Schumer and Pete both share the liability of being a big "wow!" announcement that fizzles. Sorry of like Desantis was for the right. But I think their natural magnetism coupled by the unusual circumstances of this year's election temper those concerns.

Personally, with Schumer, I think you get equal parts steak and sizzle. With Pete, you get a dash less sizzle but much less steak.

There's no sizzle or steak with either of them. FFS get your heads out of your NY/LA asses. PA, MI, WI and AZ are the ONLY states that matter. If someone does not appeal to those states more than old man Biden and Harris then there is no point and you need to circle the wagons around Joe.

Just about anyone with a pulse is more appealing than Biden in all states at this point. Get your head out of the sand or else the blood of a second Trump term will be on your hands.

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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats could choose a candidate that doesn't make the young voters want to end it all, it'd be amazing. Seriously, there is no benefit for any young person to vote in this upcoming election.

I agree, but whenever people make these suggestions, the haters shout them down. "Bernie is too extreme! Schumer is a pipe dream! Pete has no experience!" It's like the old guard wants to lose as long as they can continue to call ALL the shots.

Bernie IS too extreme. Schumer isn't anyone's pipe dream. Pete didn't get anywhere the last time he tried to run for president. Are you desperate to lose? I am not desperate to lose.

Schumer and Pete aren't ideal candidates but they are obviously better than Trump or Biden. Bernie is older than Biden so no. The only losers at this point are people that think Trump or Biden are our best options for POTUS until 2029.

Schumer and Pete both share the liability of being a big "wow!" announcement that fizzles. Sorry of like Desantis was for the right. But I think their natural magnetism coupled by the unusual circumstances of this year's election temper those concerns.

Personally, with Schumer, I think you get equal parts steak and sizzle. With Pete, you get a dash less sizzle but much less steak.

There's no sizzle or steak with either of them. FFS get your heads out of your NY/LA asses. PA, MI, WI and AZ are the ONLY states that matter. If someone does not appeal to those states more than old man Biden and Harris then there is no point and you need to circle the wagons around Joe.

Just about anyone with a pulse is more appealing than Biden in all states at this point. Get your head out of the sand or else the blood of a second Trump term will be on your hands.

Die hard dems might be enchanted by Joe Biden, but nobody else likes Biden. They don’t hate him or feel any type of way about him. He’s just there. Voters need to be excited about a candidate to vote for them. There’s no excitement around Joe Biden; there is the opposite now after the debate- disgust, derision, disbelief he’s even alive much less running the country.

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Anonymous wrote:Not saying it's practical, but a Schumer / Jeffries ticket would positively electrify the electorate and capture the youth vote that has drifted from Biden as of late

He is 73 yo. It's obvious you are not around GenZ on a daily basis.

I am honestly shocked how many older GenX and young Boomers have their head in the sand. The old-line Dems are sinking the ship and the captain has no idea.

I will confess I find the idea of a second American Camelot (which this would be) positively thrilling. though I do believe it would appear to generation z, as well.

You think Schumer would be a second Camelot???? Please tell me no. Kennedy was 43 and had a glamorous wife and lifestyle.

Lol. Exactly.

Chuck Schumer is married to Iris Weinshall, the COO for the New York Public Library. They are 100% a power couple. I'm sorry if they're not young and fit enough for you, but for the rest of us here in the real world, they're positively invigorating. And if people think he's too "old," well, Hakeem Jeffries would be on the ticket, as well.

Americans would be breaking down the doors to the polling stations to get inside and vote for Chuck and Iris, NYC power couple, to win the WH.

There is nothing, nothing, that American voters admire more than NYC power couples.

LOL PLEASE RUN CHUCK JEWMER

That is another name being lobbed around as a possible replacement. I am serious when I ask this: who in the democrat party thinks that Chuck Schumer is appealing as a viable national candidate? Are you high on meth and fentanyl? How long have you been high on that combo to think Schumer would be the one? I don’t understand how these candidates are considered as possible contenders. I swear to God an intelligent breed dog could run against Schumer for president and win. He has no appeal to anyone outside of NY/dem circles.

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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats could choose a candidate that doesn't make the young voters want to end it all, it'd be amazing. Seriously, there is no benefit for any young person to vote in this upcoming election.

I agree, but whenever people make these suggestions, the haters shout them down. "Bernie is too extreme! Schumer is a pipe dream! Pete has no experience!" It's like the old guard wants to lose as long as they can continue to call ALL the shots.

Bernie IS too extreme. Schumer isn't anyone's pipe dream. Pete didn't get anywhere the last time he tried to run for president. Are you desperate to lose? I am not desperate to lose.

Schumer and Pete aren't ideal candidates but they are obviously better than Trump or Biden. Bernie is older than Biden so no. The only losers at this point are people that think Trump or Biden are our best options for POTUS until 2029.

Schumer and Pete both share the liability of being a big "wow!" announcement that fizzles. Sorry of like Desantis was for the right. But I think their natural magnetism coupled by the unusual circumstances of this year's election temper those concerns.

Personally, with Schumer, I think you get equal parts steak and sizzle. With Pete, you get a dash less sizzle but much less steak.

There's no sizzle or steak with either of them. FFS get your heads out of your NY/LA asses. PA, MI, WI and AZ are the ONLY states that matter. If someone does not appeal to those states more than old man Biden and Harris then there is no point and you need to circle the wagons around Joe.

Just about anyone with a pulse is more appealing than Biden in all states at this point. Get your head out of the sand or else the blood of a second Trump term will be on your hands.

Die hard dems might be enchanted by Joe Biden, but nobody else likes Biden. They don’t hate him or feel any type of way about him. He’s just there. Voters need to be excited about a candidate to vote for them. There’s no excitement around Joe Biden; there is the opposite now after the debate- disgust, derision, disbelief he’s even alive much less running the country.

Under normal circumstances this is true. But when the opponent is Trump the circumstances are anything but normal and many of us will enthusiastically vote for anybody who is not Trump.