Missing Middle middle finger -- seller insists on SFH restriction

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Anonymous wrote:This is how you know that all the NIMBYs who claim "I just want the character of the neighborhood to be the same as when I moved in" are full of it. It is and always has been about racism and denying access to people they think are lesser than them.

If what they actually cared about was their own personal experience in the neighborhood, there would be absolutely no reason to care about what happens to your house when you leave the neighborhood.

Shame on all the disgusting people applauding this, you're the dregs of humanity.


It’s really racist to assume that black people can’t afford to buy a single family house in Arlington.
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Anonymous wrote:Here's a seller who seriously hates MM:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2209-18th-St-N-Arlington-VA-22201/12078404_zpid/

"*** Prior to settlement , the seller will put in a covenant to restrict the property to a single family residence.***"

Kudos to this owner for caring for the well-being of their neighbors. This is a very desirable, walkable location (Lyon Village) where I'm sure a developer would love to put in a 6-plex.


I've never heard it called "missing finger" What do you want to say?
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Anonymous wrote:The seller wants to keep his neighborhood a wealthy enclave and free of the undesirable middle class. I appreciate the transparency.

It’s not middle class. It’s other wealthy people buying this stuff. They just needed the MC renters to do the developers dirty work. I don’t think a single MM project that was available for purchase is less than $1.2M


Right. I live in Green Valley in Arlington, so maybe the least desirable Arlington neighborhood? lol. These three townhome took the spot of one SFH. And they sold for 1 million.

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Arlington/2136-S-Nelson-St-22204/home/172271124


I believe Green Valley has been excluded from Missing Middle, but that does not mean private developers cannot buy lots and have them rezoned to townhouse zoning.


No neighborhoods were excluded from EHO, which is my problem with it.


I had also heard that Green Valley and Penrose were excluded from EHO and one of the civic leaders in Halls Hill is trying to exclude that community. I believe there were about 150 properties excluded from EHO in these areas: Columbia Pike Special Revitalization District, the Cherrydale Revitalization Plan, and near the East Falls Church Metro.

I also have information from Arlington County saying that Missing Middle would improve homeownership opportunities for buyers but the implications was it was for "middle class" households who could not afford a $1.3M townhouse which Missing Middle will provide. That's why the name was changed from Missing Middle to Expanded Housing Opportunities.


No neighborhoods were excluded unless they are covered by another GLUP. It’s crap because exactly as predicted, a neighborhood near mine is getting TWO six plexes in the middle of a SFH street. This is a neighborhood that already has multifamily housing, including multiple CAF buildings, and is zoned to Title 1 schools. This should never have been allowed. Why should this neighborhood, that’s already diverse in every sense of the word, be subject to a blanket policy that is meant to expand housing options in areas that don’t have options? Also, it’s not near public transit, and it’s probably the narrowest street in the neighborhood. It shouldn’t have 12 additional housing units, and certainly not before 10,000 sq ft lots near the FC Metro get them.



So a neighborhood that already has multifamily housing is getting more multifamily housing? I thought the NIMBYs were mad because MFH was going to ruin SFH neighborhoods (although honestly, I can't think of any SFH neighborhoods except for some in way north Arlington, which is unlikely to become a magnet for MFH anyway)


Yes. I think almost all applications have only been in neighborhoods that already have a lot of multifamily. Some of that makes sense, like near Clarendon/Metro.

The example I am talking about is just a way that a developer is making more money with 2 nonconforming lots that they couldn’t figure out how to build giant SFHs on for max profit. And it shouldn’t have been approved because it really is a big middle finger to the SFHs on that street. And especially when all someone in those leafy NA neighborhoods with $$$ just has to hint that they might sue and the builders stop even talking about a duplex. But sure, just add 12 more units here in SA because the family across the street is Hispanic and works blue collar jobs.


You're posting this in a thread that started by discussing a listing in NA. (A listing that would be an excellent candidate for a duplex)


It would be an excellent candidate for a duplex on SA not in an expensive NA neighborhood.
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Anonymous wrote:This is how you know that all the NIMBYs who claim "I just want the character of the neighborhood to be the same as when I moved in" are full of it. It is and always has been about racism and denying access to people they think are lesser than them.

If what they actually cared about was their own personal experience in the neighborhood, there would be absolutely no reason to care about what happens to your house when you leave the neighborhood.

Shame on all the disgusting people applauding this, you're the dregs of humanity.


It’s really racist to assume that black people can’t afford to buy a single family house in Arlington.


It’s a really desperate argument. I’ve yet to talk to a black homeowner that is all for upzoning where they live.
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Anonymous wrote:Missing Middle, new word(s) of the day!



Not new -- it's been discussed for years.


Just asked five coworkers and their response was " missing middle what?" 🤣


No one is obligated to pay attention to housing policy. I assume your coworkers aren't (a) living somewhere where housing costs are an issue and (b) at all interested in ways of addressing that issue.

If they are and they are, then you work with stupid people.
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Anonymous wrote:Missing Middle, new word(s) of the day!



Not new -- it's been discussed for years.


Just asked five coworkers and their response was " missing middle what?" 🤣


No one is obligated to pay attention to housing policy. I assume your coworkers aren't (a) living somewhere where housing costs are an issue and (b) at all interested in ways of addressing that issue.

If they are and they are, then you work with stupid people.


FWIW, they are all engineers living in Northern VA. But yeah, maybe pondering these issues that they can't change isn't their thing.
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