Thanks to the bike party organizers!

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Anonymous wrote:We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.

We’ve built an entirely new transportation system, costing billions of dollars, for a tiny number of white guys who think they’re too good for the bus

Political power is getting a city with a 20 percent poverty rate, that’s cutting positions in schools because of budget constraints, to spend billions of dollars on your hobby

Here's a tiny sampling:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Just think of how many cars these projects gets off the road. Think about the pollution that isn't being spewed into the air, think about the health benefits for the people using these facilities and the emergency room and doctor care not being utilized - so that people who need to drive and park, can, so that people who need medical car have easier access to it.

I don't know what the $39.5 for pedestrian/bike bridges are for, the K Street has to be remade and most of that money is to facilitate the eventual expansion of the streetcar to downtown DC.

The $1.3 million for cleaning bike lanes is actually to both manage trails, clean bike lanes and teach DCPS kids how to ride bikes.

The number of cars these projects will get off the road is zero. Surveys show bicycling, if anything, is becoming *less* popular.

Facts matter

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/capital-bikeshare-breaks-record-for-most-rides-in-single-day/

20,000 capital bikeshare rides in a month, a new record that is happening each month, is not "less popular" as you falsely assert. That doesn't include privately owned bikes.

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Anonymous wrote:We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.

We’ve built an entirely new transportation system, costing billions of dollars, for a tiny number of white guys who think they’re too good for the bus

Political power is getting a city with a 20 percent poverty rate, that’s cutting positions in schools because of budget constraints, to spend billions of dollars on your hobby

Here's a tiny sampling:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

There's $52 million to build a separate bridge to Virginia next to one that already is there, but this one would just be for bicyclists. $52 MILLION! This is something WABA has been pushing.

Paid for by the Feds https://wtop.com/local/2022/09/bike-pedestrian-bridge-over-potomac-gets-20-million-boost-warner-trains-focus-on-rail-bridge/ (this is one of several federal installments)

And what is wrong with a safe place for recreational and commuting walkers and bikers to have a save place to cross? Have you ever walked or biked the 14th Street bridge? I have. It is a horrible experience.

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Anonymous wrote:We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.

We’ve built an entirely new transportation system, costing billions of dollars, for a tiny number of white guys who think they’re too good for the bus

Political power is getting a city with a 20 percent poverty rate, that’s cutting positions in schools because of budget constraints, to spend billions of dollars on your hobby

Here's a tiny sampling:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

There's $52 million to build a separate bridge to Virginia next to one that already is there, but this one would just be for bicyclists. $52 MILLION! This is something WABA has been pushing.

I like how there's already a bridge there they could use, but they're like "nah, we want our bridge"

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Anonymous wrote:Weed stores are not even in to be out.
The police have not been defunded.

Normal thinking is understanding we have a climate issue, a health issue and a transportation issue, and bike lanes can help all three of those.

Rational thinkers understand that the gridlock caused by the bike lanes will cause more pollution than is saved. And that the majority of the very rare cyclist deaths occur in “protected” bike lanes. These things are neither green nor safe.

Rational thinkers don't spout off about issues on which they are manifestly ignorant.

Decades of experience with road and highway systems demonstrate that only durable solution to gridlock is to provide urban populations with safe and efficient alternatives to driving everywhere.

Functional transit systems are good, as are protected bike lanes. The Dutch population adopted bike commuting en masse when safe cycling infrastructure was built. I don't think it’d be too hard for the DC population to do likewise.

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Anonymous wrote:We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.

We’ve built an entirely new transportation system, costing billions of dollars, for a tiny number of white guys who think they’re too good for the bus

Political power is getting a city with a 20 percent poverty rate, that’s cutting positions in schools because of budget constraints, to spend billions of dollars on your hobby

Here's a tiny sampling:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Just think of how many cars these projects gets off the road. Think about the pollution that isn't being spewed into the air, think about the health benefits for the people using these facilities and the emergency room and doctor care not being utilized - so that people who need to drive and park, can, so that people who need medical car have easier access to it.

I don't know what the $39.5 for pedestrian/bike bridges are for, the K Street has to be remade and most of that money is to facilitate the eventual expansion of the streetcar to downtown DC.

The $1.3 million for cleaning bike lanes is actually to both manage trails, clean bike lanes and teach DCPS kids how to ride bikes.

The number of cars these projects will get off the road is zero. Surveys show bicycling, if anything, is becoming *less* popular.

Facts matter

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/capital-bikeshare-breaks-record-for-most-rides-in-single-day/

20,000 capital bikeshare rides in a month, a new record that is happening each month, is not "less popular" as you falsely assert. That doesn't include privately owned bikes.

The Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments transportation survey (far more authoritative than a press release from Capital Bikeshare) shows bicycling is becoming less popular, even after accounting for the rise of telework. In fact, it shows the *only* mode of transportation that is becoming more popular is driving.

This whole notion that if we just spend more and more and more money on bike stuff, people will start biking is clearly wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.

We’ve built an entirely new transportation system, costing billions of dollars, for a tiny number of white guys who think they’re too good for the bus

Political power is getting a city with a 20 percent poverty rate, that’s cutting positions in schools because of budget constraints, to spend billions of dollars on your hobby

Here's a tiny sampling:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Just think of how many cars these projects gets off the road. Think about the pollution that isn't being spewed into the air, think about the health benefits for the people using these facilities and the emergency room and doctor care not being utilized - so that people who need to drive and park, can, so that people who need medical car have easier access to it.

I don't know what the $39.5 for pedestrian/bike bridges are for, the K Street has to be remade and most of that money is to facilitate the eventual expansion of the streetcar to downtown DC.

The $1.3 million for cleaning bike lanes is actually to both manage trails, clean bike lanes and teach DCPS kids how to ride bikes.

The number of cars these projects will get off the road is zero. Surveys show bicycling, if anything, is becoming *less* popular.

Facts matter

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/capital-bikeshare-breaks-record-for-most-rides-in-single-day/

20,000 capital bikeshare rides in a month, a new record that is happening each month, is not "less popular" as you falsely assert. That doesn't include privately owned bikes.

Correction. 20,000 rides in a single day.

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Anonymous wrote:We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.

We’ve built an entirely new transportation system, costing billions of dollars, for a tiny number of white guys who think they’re too good for the bus

Political power is getting a city with a 20 percent poverty rate, that’s cutting positions in schools because of budget constraints, to spend billions of dollars on your hobby

Here's a tiny sampling:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

There's $52 million to build a separate bridge to Virginia next to one that already is there, but this one would just be for bicyclists. $52 MILLION! This is something WABA has been pushing.

Paid for by the Feds https://wtop.com/local/2022/09/bike-pedestrian-bridge-over-potomac-gets-20-million-boost-warner-trains-focus-on-rail-bridge/ (this is one of several federal installments)

And what is wrong with a safe place for recreational and commuting walkers and bikers to have a save place to cross? Have you ever walked or biked the 14th Street bridge? I have. It is a horrible experience.

Poor thing. That must be very difficult for you. Schools are cutting positions but we have $50 million to build cyclists their own private bridge? Maybe boondoggles for bicyclists from Georgetown can wait for more vulnerable people to get what they need first.

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Dems head (and ex-ANC chair) Bo Finley is tweeting “f—- you” to bike lane skeptics. What is it about the ANC flicking off their constituents?

They're all pissed that their scheme to sneak this through during the pandemic was discovered and that their lies about overwhelming neighborhood knowledge and support were exposed.

For the nth time a disconnect has been shown between their rhetoric and their actions.

Are are over 50 public meetings, all available during and post COVID on zoom, "sneaking through?"

It is a far, far cry from the actual sneaking through that took place in the decades before when meetings were only in person at really inconvenient times for working people and parents of small kids that the ANC and CPCA routinely had. The meetings around this effort were attended by hundreds of people at a time - far more than would ever have participated in regular in-person pre-COVID ANC meetings.

Hardly undemocratic.

"Reversible Lane Study"

+1. Even the DDOT witness last week was amazed at how this somehow became primarily a bike lane project.

You mean the interim director who just came on to the scene? There are about a thousand improvements vetted under this plan, the bike lanes were one of them, but the people opposed to bike lanes will have managed to kill the whole project by the time the dust settles, because bike lanes are integral to Vision Zero, to the DC Sustainability Plan, the Net Zero plans, the clean air plans and the MoveDC plans. But hey, we need more parking so that will supercede everything else, right?

It was only the "Save Connecticut Avenue" people who made it about bike lanes.

“The inception of the project was a safety project, it has always been a safety project. . . and somehow over the years, it kind of morphed into a bike project” Doh!

Know how many cyclists died on that corridor between 1971 and 2014?? 1. And it was in 1971 and because he ran a red light. Not sure if there any more since then. But if so, it's a tiny number.

I legit know 3 people who were hit (2 were cycling, 1 was walking) on Conn Ave this year alone by different motorists during morning rush hour. Why does it have to be death? Getting hit by a car really sucks and even a "minor" crash hurts for weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.

We’ve built an entirely new transportation system, costing billions of dollars, for a tiny number of white guys who think they’re too good for the bus

Political power is getting a city with a 20 percent poverty rate, that’s cutting positions in schools because of budget constraints, to spend billions of dollars on your hobby

Here's a tiny sampling:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

There's $52 million to build a separate bridge to Virginia next to one that already is there, but this one would just be for bicyclists. $52 MILLION! This is something WABA has been pushing.

Paid for by the Feds https://wtop.com/local/2022/09/bike-pedestrian-bridge-over-potomac-gets-20-million-boost-warner-trains-focus-on-rail-bridge/ (this is one of several federal installments)

And what is wrong with a safe place for recreational and commuting walkers and bikers to have a save place to cross? Have you ever walked or biked the 14th Street bridge? I have. It is a horrible experience.

Poor thing. That must be very difficult for you. Schools are cutting positions but we have $50 million to build cyclists their own private bridge? Maybe boondoggles for bicyclists from Georgetown can wait for more vulnerable people to get what they need first.

You do realize that the Mayor specifically cut budget line items for stuff that she knew the Council would reject, because the Mayor and the CFO were in a back and forth power struggle and to move the ball forward she poison-pilled the budget so the Council could override the CFO, right?

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Anonymous wrote:The grumpy people will continue to complain. I saw some video of the event and it looked like a lot of fun.

Exactly. And “fun” is one factor that should never be taken into account when making major transportation infrastructure decisions.

Cyclists are allowed to ride on the streets. They will ride at whatever speed they can. Some are able to ride faster than others. Drivers have an obligation to drive safely. Bikers have an obligation to bike safely. But drivers do not have the right to be impatient of a cyclists is "riding too slow" for them. That is why bike lanes are needed.

Yes, we have the "right" to be impatient with someone who is riding their bike 20-25 miles below the speed limit, but somehow is too impatient to ride on a bike path or sidewalk where people are walking only 2-3 mph slower than they are riding.

Well there's a reason we advocate for bike lanes.

Additionally, ct ave ranges from 20-30 mph speed limit and bikers ride ~15mph so how fast are you really going from red light to red light?

In all my years of driving, I might have been behind one cyclist going 15 mph, all others were slower.

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Anonymous wrote:Weed stores are not even in to be out.
The police have not been defunded.

Normal thinking is understanding we have a climate issue, a health issue and a transportation issue, and bike lanes can help all three of those.

Rational thinkers understand that the gridlock caused by the bike lanes will cause more pollution than is saved. And that the majority of the very rare cyclist deaths occur in “protected” bike lanes. These things are neither green nor safe.

So what about the gridlock caused when the curb lanes are for parked cars and there is no where safe for bikes as the Mayor is now implementing on Connecticut Avenue?

There aren't enough bicyclists for that to make one ioata of difference. Removing the rush hour restrictions on parking will add gridlock though.

Right, so you are concerned about the gridlock cause by bike lanes but not concerned about gridlock caused by parking lanes.

I’m anti-bikes on the street, but I’m also against parking on the street. Each space is extremely costly but the private sector expects the taxpayers to maintain these and cede the productivity from better transportation of cars and trucks (not bikes).

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Anonymous wrote:We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.

We’ve built an entirely new transportation system, costing billions of dollars, for a tiny number of white guys who think they’re too good for the bus

MWCOG have the most reliable data. What’s likely happening is that people who used to use their own bikes have shifted to CaBi. I think DC coerced GW to provide all students a CaBi subsidy with the result that students are shifting from transit and their own bikes to CaBi bikes.

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Anonymous wrote:We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.

We’ve built an entirely new transportation system, costing billions of dollars, for a tiny number of white guys who think they’re too good for the bus

Political power is getting a city with a 20 percent poverty rate, that’s cutting positions in schools because of budget constraints, to spend billions of dollars on your hobby

Here's a tiny sampling:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

There's $52 million to build a separate bridge to Virginia next to one that already is there, but this one would just be for bicyclists. $52 MILLION! This is something WABA has been pushing.

Paid for by the Feds https://wtop.com/local/2022/09/bike-pedestrian-bridge-over-potomac-gets-20-million-boost-warner-trains-focus-on-rail-bridge/ (this is one of several federal installments)

And what is wrong with a safe place for recreational and commuting walkers and bikers to have a save place to cross? Have you ever walked or biked the 14th Street bridge? I have. It is a horrible experience.

Poor thing. That must be very difficult for you. Schools are cutting positions but we have $50 million to build cyclists their own private bridge? Maybe boondoggles for bicyclists from Georgetown can wait for more vulnerable people to get what they need first.

Two different budgets. One does not impact the other.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Weed stores are not even in to be out.
The police have not been defunded.

Normal thinking is understanding we have a climate issue, a health issue and a transportation issue, and bike lanes can help all three of those.

Rational thinkers understand that the gridlock caused by the bike lanes will cause more pollution than is saved. And that the majority of the very rare cyclist deaths occur in “protected” bike lanes. These things are neither green nor safe.

So what about the gridlock caused when the curb lanes are for parked cars and there is no where safe for bikes as the Mayor is now implementing on Connecticut Avenue?

There aren't enough bicyclists for that to make one ioata of difference. Removing the rush hour restrictions on parking will add gridlock though.

Right, so you are concerned about the gridlock cause by bike lanes but not concerned about gridlock caused by parking lanes.

I’m anti-bikes on the street, but I’m also against parking on the street. Each space is extremely costly but the private sector expects the taxpayers to maintain these and cede the productivity from better transportation of cars and trucks (not bikes).

Ok, so if you are opposed to bikes being on the street, that is a personal thing, because it is legal for bikes to be on the street. Would you prefer being stuck being one going 12MPH or have them in their own space so you can go 25-30MPH?

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Anonymous wrote:We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.

We’ve built an entirely new transportation system, costing billions of dollars, for a tiny number of white guys who think they’re too good for the bus

Political power is getting a city with a 20 percent poverty rate, that’s cutting positions in schools because of budget constraints, to spend billions of dollars on your hobby

Here's a tiny sampling:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

There's $52 million to build a separate bridge to Virginia next to one that already is there, but this one would just be for bicyclists. $52 MILLION! This is something WABA has been pushing.

Paid for by the Feds https://wtop.com/local/2022/09/bike-pedestrian-bridge-over-potomac-gets-20-million-boost-warner-trains-focus-on-rail-bridge/ (this is one of several federal installments)

And what is wrong with a safe place for recreational and commuting walkers and bikers to have a save place to cross? Have you ever walked or biked the 14th Street bridge? I have. It is a horrible experience.

Poor thing. That must be very difficult for you. Schools are cutting positions but we have $50 million to build cyclists their own private bridge? Maybe boondoggles for bicyclists from Georgetown can wait for more vulnerable people to get what they need first.

Two different budgets. One does not impact the other.

Of course they impact each other.