People still masking every day at work

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People in Japan were masking before covid.

No, they weren't wearing masks unless they were sick. Sometimes if air quality got bad (more in China).

They absolutely were. And in Korea. And in Taiwan. And in Singapore.
This started during the SARS outbreak and continued on. Please don't spread false news.

No, they weren't. Not in large numbers.

Yes, during SARS, they were.

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Anonymous wrote:I am OP. First,

- thanks to those who could provide rational answers in a calm manner.

Eye-opening to me were those who nearly died of Covid, back when there was no vaccine, and were legitimately traumatized. I can see your point; I wish you peace & health.

As to all those who really flipped out in this thread, became irrational, and even triggered over a simple, reasonable, normal expression of human curiosity: wow.

Just, wow. You’ve confirmed what I suspected all along: mental illnesses in the DMV are out of control and extremely widespread. Mental illness and intolerance. You can’t even tolerate a question without becoming irate? Again - wow.

I believe many who responded here have health issues which a mask is not going to prevent (if you know what I mean). I hope you get help and can find a pathway back to sanity.

This is really tired. This site has posters from all over the world, people who’ve lived in dozens of places, and tons of trolls. If you’ve been on this site long enough to think you can say this, then you know you asked a heated question that’s been asked a hundred times before (trolling behavior, btw) and your immature accusations of mental health problems are also troll behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People couldn't get N-95s in 2020, that is why they wore cloth masks. It's weirdly revisionist to ignore the lack of PPE supply during that time.

I am somebody who owned N-95s for wildfire smoke, pre-covid. It had never occurred to me to wear them to avoid getting/spreading illness. Maybe that makes me stupid but it was just not on my radar until covid. Once I realized I could wear them in places I regularly get sick (like airports) I did and still do. The fact I didn't think to do it earlier doesn't mean anything about doing it now.

The official public health position on masking pre-COVID, whenever it came up and it was pretty rare, was that masking didn't work so they didn't advise it.

People still continue masking because it's a theatre, it helps them think they're doing something proactive even in reality it means very little. It's a form of delusion to think you're protecting yourself from viruses and diseases.

Re the cloth masks - we were *lied* to by public health officials during COVID on the effectiveness of cloth masks. We were required to wear them in lieu of anything else for a year even though they did nothing and offered no benefits. I won't forget that.

It's not that cloth masks don't work, it's that they don't work as well as N-95s. Please try to remember that.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People in Japan were masking before covid.

No, they weren't wearing masks unless they were sick. Sometimes if air quality got bad (more in China).

They absolutely were. And in Korea. And in Taiwan. And in Singapore.
This started during the SARS outbreak and continued on. Please don't spread false news.

No, they weren't. Not in large numbers.

Yes. In large numbers they were. Maybe you are not asian or have never been to asia, but please don't continue spreading this. You have no idea what you're talking about, stop trying to twist this to fit your political narrative.

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Like wearing diapers to prevent aids

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People couldn't get N-95s in 2020, that is why they wore cloth masks. It's weirdly revisionist to ignore the lack of PPE supply during that time.

I am somebody who owned N-95s for wildfire smoke, pre-covid. It had never occurred to me to wear them to avoid getting/spreading illness. Maybe that makes me stupid but it was just not on my radar until covid. Once I realized I could wear them in places I regularly get sick (like airports) I did and still do. The fact I didn't think to do it earlier doesn't mean anything about doing it now.

The official public health position on masking pre-COVID, whenever it came up and it was pretty rare, was that masking didn't work so they didn't advise it.

People still continue masking because it's a theatre, it helps them think they're doing something proactive even in reality it means very little. It's a form of delusion to think you're protecting yourself from viruses and diseases.

Re the cloth masks - we were *lied* to by public health officials during COVID on the effectiveness of cloth masks. We were required to wear them in lieu of anything else for a year even though they did nothing and offered no benefits. I won't forget that.

It's not that cloth masks don't work, it's that they don't work as well as N-95s. Please try to remember that.

And there weren’t even enough for hospital staff. How quickly people forget the massive PPE shortage. So the rest of us wore cloth because it’s what was available and better than nothing. Also, not everyone could afford to drop $50 on masks when they were available - even before they lost their jobs due to the pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People couldn't get N-95s in 2020, that is why they wore cloth masks. It's weirdly revisionist to ignore the lack of PPE supply during that time.

I am somebody who owned N-95s for wildfire smoke, pre-covid. It had never occurred to me to wear them to avoid getting/spreading illness. Maybe that makes me stupid but it was just not on my radar until covid. Once I realized I could wear them in places I regularly get sick (like airports) I did and still do. The fact I didn't think to do it earlier doesn't mean anything about doing it now.

The official public health position on masking pre-COVID, whenever it came up and it was pretty rare, was that masking didn't work so they didn't advise it.

People still continue masking because it's a theatre, it helps them think they're doing something proactive even in reality it means very little. It's a form of delusion to think you're protecting yourself from viruses and diseases.

Re the cloth masks - we were *lied* to by public health officials during COVID on the effectiveness of cloth masks. We were required to wear them in lieu of anything else for a year even though they did nothing and offered no benefits. I won't forget that.

None of your post is factual. You are refusing forget something that isn't accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:I am OP. First,

- thanks to those who could provide rational answers in a calm manner.

Eye-opening to me were those who nearly died of Covid, back when there was no vaccine, and were legitimately traumatized. I can see your point; I wish you peace & health.

As to all those who really flipped out in this thread, became irrational, and even triggered over a simple, reasonable, normal expression of human curiosity: wow.

Just, wow. You’ve confirmed what I suspected all along: mental illnesses in the DMV are out of control and extremely widespread. Mental illness and intolerance. You can’t even tolerate a question without becoming irate? Again - wow.

I believe many who responded here have health issues which a mask is not going to prevent (if you know what I mean). I hope you get help and can find a pathway back to sanity.

This is really tired. This site has posters from all over the world, people who’ve lived in dozens of places, and tons of trolls. If you’ve been on this site long enough to think you can say this, then you know you asked a heated question that’s been asked a hundred times before (trolling behavior, btw) and your immature accusations of mental health problems are also troll behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Like wearing diapers to prevent aids

Actually wearing a diaper would be very helpful in preventing STDs. Think about it...

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Anti-maskers: why does your doctor wear one then, when performing surgery?

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What did someone bump a thread from 2022?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People couldn't get N-95s in 2020, that is why they wore cloth masks. It's weirdly revisionist to ignore the lack of PPE supply during that time.

I am somebody who owned N-95s for wildfire smoke, pre-covid. It had never occurred to me to wear them to avoid getting/spreading illness. Maybe that makes me stupid but it was just not on my radar until covid. Once I realized I could wear them in places I regularly get sick (like airports) I did and still do. The fact I didn't think to do it earlier doesn't mean anything about doing it now.

The official public health position on masking pre-COVID, whenever it came up and it was pretty rare, was that masking didn't work so they didn't advise it.

People still continue masking because it's a theatre, it helps them think they're doing something proactive even in reality it means very little. It's a form of delusion to think you're protecting yourself from viruses and diseases.

Re the cloth masks - we were *lied* to by public health officials during COVID on the effectiveness of cloth masks. We were required to wear them in lieu of anything else for a year even though they did nothing and offered no benefits. I won't forget that.

It's not that cloth masks don't work, it's that they don't work as well as N-95s. Please try to remember that.

Cloth masks with filters work reasonably well. It depends on what kind of cloth mask.

The question is why does it trigger some that others are still masking. It has nothing to do with them. They are the ones who have the mental health issues. It's not theater as it has been proven to help. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t these people who are masking now mask before Covid??

Maybe because they weren’t immunocompromised dumb dumb..

What a dumb question. You must be a rocket scientist.

Got it. So no one was immunocompromised before Covid.

I’m “dumb” yet you all are convinced you will die because of Covid but weren’t worried enough about airborn transmission of disease before Covid to wear a mask.

Critical thinking isn’t particularly strong with those who have pathological anxiety.

What is wrong with you?

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Anonymous wrote:Like wearing diapers to prevent aids

You are so close, it's like wearing condoms to prevent AIDs. And we are finding out how many people don't bother to do that either.

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Anonymous wrote:I am OP. First,

- thanks to those who could provide rational answers in a calm manner.

Eye-opening to me were those who nearly died of Covid, back when there was no vaccine, and were legitimately traumatized. I can see your point; I wish you peace & health.

As to all those who really flipped out in this thread, became irrational, and even triggered over a simple, reasonable, normal expression of human curiosity: wow.

Just, wow. You’ve confirmed what I suspected all along: mental illnesses in the DMV are out of control and extremely widespread. Mental illness and intolerance. You can’t even tolerate a question without becoming irate? Again - wow.

I believe many who responded here have health issues which a mask is not going to prevent (if you know what I mean). I hope you get help and can find a pathway back to sanity.

OP, a mask absolutely helps in preventing colds, flu and virus. You are the one with mental illness given you are so triggered by this and feel you need to bully others into believing what you do. You are the intolerant one.

People are still dying of covid. A child just died of covid earlier this year in MCPS.

My parent died last fall as someone at their dining table had covid, and spread it. My parent caught it, and it caused other issues and after a few weeks on a vent, they passed. That's a pretty miserable and unnecessary way to go because someone like you was too selfish to isolate when they were sick.