Seems like MCPS is a mess

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:


You nailed it, but these posters are so married to selling this false narrative of decline that they refuse to look at any evidence.

you are gaslighting only yourself.

We used to be #1 in the state, now #3 in the state. You can look at the graphs here and see our decline in last 10 years. Sure, our W schools may have 90% proficiency math/reading rates, but countywide the rates are 27% and 45%. You okay with those numbers?
Nationwide, we are ranked #141 by county. The same rating as Carroll County. There are 5 counties in West Virginia ranked better than us. No more making fun of WV schools.

https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-district/2400480-school-district


If graduation rates are increasing, it is because we lowered our standards for it.
You set the bar low, you only get low output. The tech industry figured that out 10-15 years ago, that's why they left all those now vacant buildings along 270. That, and the fact that the other side of the river was more business friendly.

Personally I think the start of the fall came way back on Weast and that terrible math that my kids had to live through. 12 years after him (in theory his first year of graduates) is when you see those scores fall.

Now grant you, the MCPS system as a whole has lots to offer, but it means nothing when the majority of our students are not learning.

These are the MCAP scores. The state average is 19% and 36% respectively.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child has regularly dealt with comments due to her gender. A girl. You can’t do this, you’re a girl, you’ll fail because you are a girl, comments about body parts, I can go on and on. The teacher acknowledged it was a problem. Principal refused to do anything, pointed me to a bullying form. And I talked to a county administrator, who has since left because of the scandal, very nice on the phone but did nothing. Now if these comments were about anything other than her being a girl, the county would have cared. All MCPS cares about is equity, but not in raising the bar for kids who don’t have the support. They are focused on the appearance of equity, not providing a solid education to all. It’s broken. It’s exhausting. Doesn’t matter what I do, other than move my kid.

BS my girls never ever got anything but a fantastic stem education from MCPS>
MCPS has a great track record for women getting accepted to great colleges for math,science, CS, Eng, physics etc and medical school.

My girls went to MIT and Carnegie Mellon and GA tech from MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


You nailed it, but these posters are so married to selling this false narrative of decline that they refuse to look at any evidence.

you are gaslighting only yourself.

We used to be #1 in the state, now #3 in the state. You can look at the graphs here and see our decline in last 10 years. Sure, our W schools may have 90% proficiency math/reading rates, but countywide the rates are 27% and 45%. You okay with those numbers?
Nationwide, we are ranked #141 by county. The same rating as Carroll County. There are 5 counties in West Virginia ranked better than us. No more making fun of WV schools.

https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-district/2400480-school-district


If graduation rates are increasing, it is because we lowered our standards for it.
You set the bar low, you only get low output. The tech industry figured that out 10-15 years ago, that's why they left all those now vacant buildings along 270. That, and the fact that the other side of the river was more business friendly.

Personally I think the start of the fall came way back on Weast and that terrible math that my kids had to live through. 12 years after him (in theory his first year of graduates) is when you see those scores fall.

Now grant you, the MCPS system as a whole has lots to offer, but it means nothing when the majority of our students are not learning.

These are the MCAP scores. The state average is 19% and 36% respectively.

And this data is old. The most recent data is 46.5% and 55.3%. And everyone has acknowledged that those scores aren’t good enough, despite the improvement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving to the area soon and had been thinking MoCo for the schools but this forum paints a bleak picture. Would any of you prefer a VA district to MCPS?

1. The Superintendent has just been fired (for promoting a serial sexual harasser), a number of high-ranking officials have also been fired, and the central office is in disarray. It will take some time to find a new superintendent.

2. Due to the construction of two new high schools (Woodward and Crown), half of the county will be involved in massive school boundary studies. Your children may be rezoned during their stay at MCPS (unless you live within walking distance to the schools you like).
https://moderatelymoco.com/mcps-boundary-studies-updates-from-2-27-24-boe-meeting-woodward-crown-damascus-high-schools/

With such uncertainties, why do you choose to come to MCPS?

Do you think other schoool districts don’t redo boundaries

Which school district is redoing boundaries for half of the district?

To be more precise, which school district is redoing boundaries for all its better schools?

I think better schools will be adjusted on the margins rather than see sweeping changes. I don't think MCPS is as stupid as some of the people you will find on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving to the area soon and had been thinking MoCo for the schools but this forum paints a bleak picture. Would any of you prefer a VA district to MCPS?

1. The Superintendent has just been fired (for promoting a serial sexual harasser), a number of high-ranking officials have also been fired, and the central office is in disarray. It will take some time to find a new superintendent.

2. Due to the construction of two new high schools (Woodward and Crown), half of the county will be involved in massive school boundary studies. Your children may be rezoned during their stay at MCPS (unless you live within walking distance to the schools you like).
https://moderatelymoco.com/mcps-boundary-studies-updates-from-2-27-24-boe-meeting-woodward-crown-damascus-high-schools/

With such uncertainties, why do you choose to come to MCPS?

Do you think other schoool districts don’t redo boundaries

Which school district is redoing boundaries for half of the district?

To be more precise, which school district is redoing boundaries for all its better schools?

I think better schools will be adjusted on the margins rather than see sweeping changes. I don't think MCPS is as stupid as some of the people you will find on DCUM.

"Better schools" like the "better dresses" sections department stores used to have

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving to the area soon and had been thinking MoCo for the schools but this forum paints a bleak picture. Would any of you prefer a VA district to MCPS?

1. The Superintendent has just been fired (for promoting a serial sexual harasser), a number of high-ranking officials have also been fired, and the central office is in disarray. It will take some time to find a new superintendent.

2. Due to the construction of two new high schools (Woodward and Crown), half of the county will be involved in massive school boundary studies. Your children may be rezoned during their stay at MCPS (unless you live within walking distance to the schools you like).
https://moderatelymoco.com/mcps-boundary-studies-updates-from-2-27-24-boe-meeting-woodward-crown-damascus-high-schools/

With such uncertainties, why do you choose to come to MCPS?

Do you think other schoool districts don’t redo boundaries

Which school district is redoing boundaries for half of the district?

To be more precise, which school district is redoing boundaries for all its better schools?

I think better schools will be adjusted on the margins rather than see sweeping changes. I don't think MCPS is as stupid as some of the people you will find on DCUM.

"Better schools" like the "better dresses" sections department stores used to have

MCPS is a tale of two districts: a first-world district on the west side and a third-world district on the east side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child has regularly dealt with comments due to her gender. A girl. You can’t do this, you’re a girl, you’ll fail because you are a girl, comments about body parts, I can go on and on. The teacher acknowledged it was a problem. Principal refused to do anything, pointed me to a bullying form. And I talked to a county administrator, who has since left because of the scandal, very nice on the phone but did nothing. Now if these comments were about anything other than her being a girl, the county would have cared. All MCPS cares about is equity, but not in raising the bar for kids who don’t have the support. They are focused on the appearance of equity, not providing a solid education to all. It’s broken. It’s exhausting. Doesn’t matter what I do, other than move my kid.

BS my girls never ever got anything but a fantastic stem education from MCPS>
MCPS has a great track record for women getting accepted to great colleges for math,science, CS, Eng, physics etc and medical school.

My girls went to MIT and Carnegie Mellon and GA tech from MCPS.

What years boomer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving to the area soon and had been thinking MoCo for the schools but this forum paints a bleak picture. Would any of you prefer a VA district to MCPS?

1. The Superintendent has just been fired (for promoting a serial sexual harasser), a number of high-ranking officials have also been fired, and the central office is in disarray. It will take some time to find a new superintendent.

2. Due to the construction of two new high schools (Woodward and Crown), half of the county will be involved in massive school boundary studies. Your children may be rezoned during their stay at MCPS (unless you live within walking distance to the schools you like).
https://moderatelymoco.com/mcps-boundary-studies-updates-from-2-27-24-boe-meeting-woodward-crown-damascus-high-schools/

With such uncertainties, why do you choose to come to MCPS?

Do you think other schoool districts don’t redo boundaries

Which school district is redoing boundaries for half of the district?

To be more precise, which school district is redoing boundaries for all its better schools?

I think better schools will be adjusted on the margins rather than see sweeping changes. I don't think MCPS is as stupid as some of the people you will find on DCUM.

"Better schools" like the "better dresses" sections department stores used to have

MCPS is a tale of two districts: a first-world district on the west side and a third-world district on the east side.

The east side produces the vast majority of scholars, winners, trophies, academic accomplishments and the jewel of MCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child has regularly dealt with comments due to her gender. A girl. You can’t do this, you’re a girl, you’ll fail because you are a girl, comments about body parts, I can go on and on. The teacher acknowledged it was a problem. Principal refused to do anything, pointed me to a bullying form. And I talked to a county administrator, who has since left because of the scandal, very nice on the phone but did nothing. Now if these comments were about anything other than her being a girl, the county would have cared. All MCPS cares about is equity, but not in raising the bar for kids who don’t have the support. They are focused on the appearance of equity, not providing a solid education to all. It’s broken. It’s exhausting. Doesn’t matter what I do, other than move my kid.

BS my girls never ever got anything but a fantastic stem education from MCPS>
MCPS has a great track record for women getting accepted to great colleges for math,science, CS, Eng, physics etc and medical school.

My girls went to MIT and Carnegie Mellon and GA tech from MCPS.

Blair?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving to the area soon and had been thinking MoCo for the schools but this forum paints a bleak picture. Would any of you prefer a VA district to MCPS?

1. The Superintendent has just been fired (for promoting a serial sexual harasser), a number of high-ranking officials have also been fired, and the central office is in disarray. It will take some time to find a new superintendent.

2. Due to the construction of two new high schools (Woodward and Crown), half of the county will be involved in massive school boundary studies. Your children may be rezoned during their stay at MCPS (unless you live within walking distance to the schools you like).
https://moderatelymoco.com/mcps-boundary-studies-updates-from-2-27-24-boe-meeting-woodward-crown-damascus-high-schools/

With such uncertainties, why do you choose to come to MCPS?

Do you think other schoool districts don’t redo boundaries

Which school district is redoing boundaries for half of the district?

To be more precise, which school district is redoing boundaries for all its better schools?

I think better schools will be adjusted on the margins rather than see sweeping changes. I don't think MCPS is as stupid as some of the people you will find on DCUM.

"Better schools" like the "better dresses" sections department stores used to have

MCPS is a tale of two districts: a first-world district on the west side and a third-world district on the east side.

The third world is moving west in the county.

[Anonymous]

All of the schools within MCPS are not the same. The schools in wealthier areas of the county are by and large truly excellent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child has regularly dealt with comments due to her gender. A girl. You can’t do this, you’re a girl, you’ll fail because you are a girl, comments about body parts, I can go on and on. The teacher acknowledged it was a problem. Principal refused to do anything, pointed me to a bullying form. And I talked to a county administrator, who has since left because of the scandal, very nice on the phone but did nothing. Now if these comments were about anything other than her being a girl, the county would have cared. All MCPS cares about is equity, but not in raising the bar for kids who don’t have the support. They are focused on the appearance of equity, not providing a solid education to all. It’s broken. It’s exhausting. Doesn’t matter what I do, other than move my kid.

BS my girls never ever got anything but a fantastic stem education from MCPS>
MCPS has a great track record for women getting accepted to great colleges for math,science, CS, Eng, physics etc and medical school.

My girls went to MIT and Carnegie Mellon and GA tech from MCPS.

That's impressive! I feel similarly. I have one kid in RMIB and another at Blair SMCS. These great opportunities are completely available to anyone who is interested. Still, county demographics are radically different than 30 years ago, and not everyone cares about college these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of the schools within MCPS are not the same. The schools in wealthier areas of the county are by and large truly excellent.

True and college outcomes at many of the wealthy schools is only somewhat lower than Blair or RM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


You nailed it, but these posters are so married to selling this false narrative of decline that they refuse to look at any evidence.

you are gaslighting only yourself.

We used to be #1 in the state, now #3 in the state. You can look at the graphs here and see our decline in last 10 years. Sure, our W schools may have 90% proficiency math/reading rates, but countywide the rates are 27% and 45%. You okay with those numbers?
Nationwide, we are ranked #141 by county. The same rating as Carroll County. There are 5 counties in West Virginia ranked better than us. No more making fun of WV schools.

https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-district/2400480-school-district


If graduation rates are increasing, it is because we lowered our standards for it.
You set the bar low, you only get low output. The tech industry figured that out 10-15 years ago, that's why they left all those now vacant buildings along 270. That, and the fact that the other side of the river was more business friendly.

Personally I think the start of the fall came way back on Weast and that terrible math that my kids had to live through. 12 years after him (in theory his first year of graduates) is when you see those scores fall.

Now grant you, the MCPS system as a whole has lots to offer, but it means nothing when the majority of our students are not learning.

These are the MCAP scores. The state average is 19% and 36% respectively.

And this data is old. The most recent data is 46.5% and 55.3%. And everyone has acknowledged that those scores aren’t good enough, despite the improvement.

MCAP is a new test that has questionable merit. Since it's new and used in MD only we can only compare MCAP scores to earlier years it was given. This indicates a marked improvement. and MCPS is doing better than anyplace in the state. So it seems like MCPS isn't really a mess after all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child has regularly dealt with comments due to her gender. A girl. You can’t do this, you’re a girl, you’ll fail because you are a girl, comments about body parts, I can go on and on. The teacher acknowledged it was a problem. Principal refused to do anything, pointed me to a bullying form. And I talked to a county administrator, who has since left because of the scandal, very nice on the phone but did nothing. Now if these comments were about anything other than her being a girl, the county would have cared. All MCPS cares about is equity, but not in raising the bar for kids who don’t have the support. They are focused on the appearance of equity, not providing a solid education to all. It’s broken. It’s exhausting. Doesn’t matter what I do, other than move my kid.

BS my girls never ever got anything but a fantastic stem education from MCPS>
MCPS has a great track record for women getting accepted to great colleges for math,science, CS, Eng, physics etc and medical school.

My girls went to MIT and Carnegie Mellon and GA tech from MCPS.

That's impressive! I feel similarly. I have one kid in RMIB and another at Blair SMCS. These great opportunities are completely available to anyone who is interested. Still, county demographics are radically different than 30 years ago, and not everyone cares about college these days.

Except that far more people apply for them than there are available slots.