Anti-diversity trends.

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Anonymous wrote:FYI- Burke had a range of affinity groups: Black, Asian, Latino, multiracial, Jewish, white allies, lgbt, etc.

NP.

Important to note here that many Burke parents and students are unhappy with the program as it is currently implemented and want to see change. It pops up in conversation regularly.

In conversations with the school?

Not any I’m aware of.

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I think what you’re observing isn’t disinterest or racism but fear and self-preservation. People know they are a priory guilty (white) and won’t come out of any engagement without a considerable risk of it backfiring. So I think you’re seeing a bit of fudge it, I’m not touching this one.

BTW, some of the top schools are in fact minority white.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who want to take DEI out of our school and who were freaking out about affinity groups was a tiny, vocal group of white, Christian, hetero, rich families. At one point they got so loud and insidious about it that the entire school community felt like the opinions of those people defined the school, and it really tore people apart.

The administration, in partnership with a few parents with social capital, got on top of the situation and carefully leaked the information that it was only 3 families in a student body of 450 who were continually seeding this anti-DEI and affinity group discord. Those families hadn't even re-enrolled last spring when they began their anti-DEI campaign. As soon as they were gone and the fall semester began, the conversations stopped. Student-led affinity groups are carrying on just fine and DEIJB continues to be a key component of curriculum, admissions, and community life.

I suspect this is true my my kid's school, too. I wish the administration would take this tack instead of catering to the loud rich white right-wing people

I don't think it is a few at our school. Our annual parental DEI meeting was not well attended at all. The majority of parents think it is wasteful use of staff and resources. In fact, there were very few POC in that meeting, which was also quite a surprise.

I think it’s a mix of not sure if I’m welcome and will I be able to say anything without getting burned at the stake (and I don’t mean saying something in disagreement, but just opening one’s mouth — it’s rarely atta girl and more of a yt savior to yt devil label).

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The intent is good but the ideology is being applied in a dogmatic manner. Sort of like a Maoist meeting - you must quote from the book. I’m well meaning but tbh it’s too much work and I’m a coward so no thanks, giving it all a wide berth.

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Anonymous wrote:I think what you’re observing isn’t disinterest or racism but fear and self-preservation. People know they are a priory guilty (white) and won’t come out of any engagement without a considerable risk of it backfiring. So I think you’re seeing a bit of fudge it, I’m not touching this one.

BTW, some of the top schools are in fact minority white.

Which schools are minority white?. I will be applying to schools next year as a POC, and need to research.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who want to take DEI out of our school and who were freaking out about affinity groups was a tiny, vocal group of white, Christian, hetero, rich families. At one point they got so loud and insidious about it that the entire school community felt like the opinions of those people defined the school, and it really tore people apart.

The administration, in partnership with a few parents with social capital, got on top of the situation and carefully leaked the information that it was only 3 families in a student body of 450 who were continually seeding this anti-DEI and affinity group discord. Those families hadn't even re-enrolled last spring when they began their anti-DEI campaign. As soon as they were gone and the fall semester began, the conversations stopped. Student-led affinity groups are carrying on just fine and DEIJB continues to be a key component of curriculum, admissions, and community life.

Yeah right. Talk about “things that didn’t happen” and “name the school or you’re lying”.

We are neither Christian nor White and cannot stand this DEI nonsense.

We're Christian but not white, and we want DEI gone. It doesn't make make schools better or more diverse (other than an artificial increase in AA), it just separates people.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that so many people at different schools are complaining the pendulum has swung too far but this is exactly what they chose for their virtue signal.

No, people have been patiently waiting for the pendulum not to swing too far.

While the kids’ eyes glaze over whenever they hear diversity, equity and inclusion?

Do they ever say anything or just wait?

If you're not black, you're afraid to say anything because you don't want to be labeled "racist" when you are not. And you don't want your kid to deal with the ramifications of that too. So, we have a lot of parents that just deal with something that is a waste of money and time for everyone, and hope this will be over soon too. And maybe use our votes to change the political settings overall.

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SFS is 60% POC

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't think that many of the people posting here can even define what DEI is. I sense that most of the people opposing "it" are not racist but don't want their kids beat over the head with messaging about race, racial history and race elations. They see it as divisive as opposed to unifying.

I am a Black and always wondered how society was going to sustain DEI positions - the creation of which were motivated by the George Floyd murder. There just isn't enough to do at a school to fill a work week. Therefore, these positions are usually the first to go when there are budget cuts. And I'm still not clear what the objective ever was. I think people wanted to do *something* in response to George Floyd and this was the something - prop up a DEI person or program at school or work. Now a couple of years later and everyone is sitting around twiddling their thumbs about what DEI really is and why it's still relevant.

I am glad that the Blacks have joined the thread.

I think that every reply that contains the phrase, "I am [enter race]" is a troll.

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I'm glad someone said it before I did.
Definitely not believing PP.
I am completely and utterly convinced DCUM is not the place to go to gain true perspectives. I'm laughing too myself because I'm not even sure why I'm wasting my time contributing this post. It's only continuing the charade that is happening. Carry on.

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Anonymous wrote:OP — You need to distinguish between diversity and DEI programs.. they do not mean the same things. Although I’ve seen no evidence of privates backing off of either.

Diversity … Making an effort to have classes of different backgrounds .. does tend to be primarily race or Latino-based at most schools. If you really believe in this then it should include religion, view points, other ethnicities, languages, sexual orientation (for high school), gender presentation, and disabilities. Schools tend to have a narrow focus but have success within that too narrow range. Schools look at what the National Association of Independent Schools report. Of course, they can’t really build classes to maximize diversity ….there aren’t enough applicants, the schools need to ensure tuition dollars etc. And, of course, that’s part of the hypocrisy of pushing it.

Inclusion … consciously socially engineering to take steps that all kids fee included. Nice ideas but often School's in execution.

Equity .. this is the heart of DEI and where some families are starting to push back. It had no one definition. But many DEI consultants and “experts” promote the notion that equity means taking steps to ensure all groupings are racially diverse in proportion to the general population, even if those steps involve outright quotas or other discrimination against whites. This is equity preached byI. Kendi. Many DEI consultants teach that virtually all institutions are structurally racist, all white people are racist, and common standards are instruments if white supremacy. Homework, showing up to class on time, showing your work on a math problem … white supremacy. Ask any MCPS teacher who has had to sit through such mandatory trainings this year. This is what people are pushing back against. And it isn’t just “right wing” conservatives.. some very liberal people have been pushed out jobs for questioning this or refusing to participate in “trainings” requiring them to “confess” their privilege. It is the not an interest in whitewashing history, but in rejecting that all of history should be taught as a struggle based on race-related oppressors and oppressed. DEI in its extreme is an absurd extension of CRT, which for years we have heard is not taught in schools.

This pretty much sums up the Cultural Revolution in China. The "struggle sessions", self-critique, confessionals, destruction of history in the name of a brand new proletariat defined country. Anybody and everybody had some sort of problematic class background reaching back generations or 4th cousins.
The Chinese aren't exactly proud of this phase of their modern history.

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Ditto for behind the Iron Curtain. Been there

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Anonymous wrote:DEI, the biggest grift in American history.

No, that honor belongs to private school education in Northern Va.

Do you mean private school education in NoVA is not different than public school education in NoVA?

Public school education is better than private in NOVA.

Then how do the privates survive?

People buy $3000 handbags too.

they why do some people send their kids there despite stretching the budget and even then needing financial aid?

People go into tremendous debt for luxury homes too. People want to buy status. Some make very bad decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:I am wondering, cynically, if private schools are now recognizing that after the Supreme Court ruling there is less of an advantage to being a minority applicant to college. Since a private school’s prestige is based largely on where their graduates go to college, they see less of a reason to recruit minority applicants.

Well without minority applicants, who will white parents have to blame for their kids not getting into their desired schools? Most schools are always going to be interested in cultivating a diverse learning environment. Contrary to what you may believe about the Supreme Court ruling, schools are not going to change what they do, just how they do it. The number of minority students will still be the same at elite colleges and universities.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you make a separate post about Holton?

Nope, but it's one of the schools I pulled.

Where else?

Another school in the area without affinity groups.

Our high school is so polarized they actually won't let bi-racial kids join affinity groups. So if you have one parent who is black, that's not enough for the black affinity group. If you have one parent who is hispanic, nope, you can't join the hispanic one either. God forbid you have one asian and one black parent, because you can't go to either.

Gate keeping. And the person who makes this decision is the DEI head for the school. Lovely.

Things that never happened.

Not happening. More the merrier - allies, biracial, Caribbean African, AA, Ghanan, Moroccan.

Look, I agree the more the merrier. But the head of DEI makes those decisions and she's told highs school students who were biracial they couldn't join certain clubs because they weren't X enough. She has a horrible reputation among the students and she's a POC herself so I don't get it. It's a real shame.

Name the school or you are lying.

You're a bully. And pathetically immature.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who want to take DEI out of our school and who were freaking out about affinity groups was a tiny, vocal group of white, Christian, hetero, rich families. At one point they got so loud and insidious about it that the entire school community felt like the opinions of those people defined the school, and it really tore people apart.

The administration, in partnership with a few parents with social capital, got on top of the situation and carefully leaked the information that it was only 3 families in a student body of 450 who were continually seeding this anti-DEI and affinity group discord. Those families hadn't even re-enrolled last spring when they began their anti-DEI campaign. As soon as they were gone and the fall semester began, the conversations stopped. Student-led affinity groups are carrying on just fine and DEIJB continues to be a key component of curriculum, admissions, and community life.

Since you're proud of your school, would you mind sharing the name?