Woodward HS boundary study - BCC, Blair, Einstein, WJ, Kennedy, Northwood, Wheaton, Whitman impacts

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


I doubt TPMS boundaries will change. But Blair's are going to need to be trimmed back to relieve it from being 600ish students over capacity. No one knows where they will make the changes.


What if MCPS move the SMAC magnet and CAP from Blair Northwood, it would take 600+ students from Blair.


These programs are woven into the fabric of that school, so it's not a practical choice. It makes more sense to adjust the boundary on the edges near Northwood and possibly Einsten by creating space there with Woodward.


It's not impossible, but it would mean some specific design/build decisions that I've not seen on the table for Northwood. More recording spaces and expandable classrooms for the CAP kids (a pretty small design change), and more lab space for the SMCS kids.


A better idea is to incorporate Whitman and BCC into the DCC. They are both down county and we could offload more students while reducing the segregation at those schools.


This sounds logical. Not sure logistically how it would work. Whitman and B-CC would likely need to develop unique academic programs to qualify for membership in the DCC.


Offering some unique application programs at those schools to DCC students to create pull and improve diversity without forced busing at those schools does seem like a win.


The best thing would be to get rid of the DCC. The special DCC programs (other than CAP which also has non-DCC students who attended certain middle schools) are not strong and having students in a neighborhood scattered at different DCC schools decreases the sense of community. The DCC has not been successful.


The DCC should be expanded! Also, the DCC should be abolished!
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


Blair's boundary is adjacent to Northwood and Einstein, so those must be trimmed back to make room. With Woodward opening, it should create sufficient space there to accommodate maybe 200 students; similarly, with Northwood's expansion, they can pick up a few hundred from the area outside (or near) the beltway. After all, Blair's existed in DTSS, and even though its new location is elsewhere, it is the only school for that part of the county.

Where we live in Western SS near the park, BCC is the closest school, not Einstein or Blair, but we're zoned to Blair. BCC will also play a part in this, especially with the ToK moving to Woodward.


Yes. Blair’s move from Wayne Ave in Silver Spring to Four Corners created some issues with the present boundaries. It will be interesting to see which neighborhoods are moved to Woodward et al to relive the crowding.


I could see them moving ESS and the Blair-zoned part of Sligo Creek to Northwood, which are both adjacent to the part of Sligo Creek already zoned to Northwood. That would allow them to keep the city of Takoma Park together at Blair.


The city of Takoma park is so far from any other schools it doesn’t make sense to do anything other than stay with Blair. Really a new high school in downtown silver spring or Takoma Park would make a lot of sense.


Where do you think this new high school should be?


Read my previous post.
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


Blair's boundary is adjacent to Northwood and Einstein, so those must be trimmed back to make room. With Woodward opening, it should create sufficient space there to accommodate maybe 200 students; similarly, with Northwood's expansion, they can pick up a few hundred from the area outside (or near) the beltway. After all, Blair's existed in DTSS, and even though its new location is elsewhere, it is the only school for that part of the county.

Where we live in Western SS near the park, BCC is the closest school, not Einstein or Blair, but we're zoned to Blair. BCC will also play a part in this, especially with the ToK moving to Woodward.


Yes. Blair’s move from Wayne Ave in Silver Spring to Four Corners created some issues with the present boundaries. It will be interesting to see which neighborhoods are moved to Woodward et al to relive the crowding.


I could see them moving ESS and the Blair-zoned part of Sligo Creek to Northwood, which are both adjacent to the part of Sligo Creek already zoned to Northwood. That would allow them to keep the city of Takoma Park together at Blair.


The city of Takoma park is so far from any other schools it doesn’t make sense to do anything other than stay with Blair. Really a new high school in downtown silver spring or Takoma Park would make a lot of sense.


Where do you think this new high school should be?


Read my previous post.

Where specifically near downtown Silver Spring or Takoma Park is there an available parcel of ten or more acres for a new high school?
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


Blair's boundary is adjacent to Northwood and Einstein, so those must be trimmed back to make room. With Woodward opening, it should create sufficient space there to accommodate maybe 200 students; similarly, with Northwood's expansion, they can pick up a few hundred from the area outside (or near) the beltway. After all, Blair's existed in DTSS, and even though its new location is elsewhere, it is the only school for that part of the county.

Where we live in Western SS near the park, BCC is the closest school, not Einstein or Blair, but we're zoned to Blair. BCC will also play a part in this, especially with the ToK moving to Woodward.

You have no idea whether the ToK will move to Woodward or not.


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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


Blair's boundary is adjacent to Northwood and Einstein, so those must be trimmed back to make room. With Woodward opening, it should create sufficient space there to accommodate maybe 200 students; similarly, with Northwood's expansion, they can pick up a few hundred from the area outside (or near) the beltway. After all, Blair's existed in DTSS, and even though its new location is elsewhere, it is the only school for that part of the county.

Where we live in Western SS near the park, BCC is the closest school, not Einstein or Blair, but we're zoned to Blair. BCC will also play a part in this, especially with the ToK moving to Woodward.


Yes. Blair’s move from Wayne Ave in Silver Spring to Four Corners created some issues with the present boundaries. It will be interesting to see which neighborhoods are moved to Woodward et al to relive the crowding.


Some people had proposed the Adventist hospital site for this, but the county wasn't interested.

I could see them moving ESS and the Blair-zoned part of Sligo Creek to Northwood, which are both adjacent to the part of Sligo Creek already zoned to Northwood. That would allow them to keep the city of Takoma Park together at Blair.


The city of Takoma park is so far from any other schools it doesn’t make sense to do anything other than stay with Blair. Really a new high school in downtown silver spring or Takoma Park would make a lot of sense.


Where do you think this new high school should be?


Read my previous post.

Where specifically near downtown Silver Spring or Takoma Park is there an available parcel of ten or more acres for a new high school?
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


Blair's boundary is adjacent to Northwood and Einstein, so those must be trimmed back to make room. With Woodward opening, it should create sufficient space there to accommodate maybe 200 students; similarly, with Northwood's expansion, they can pick up a few hundred from the area outside (or near) the beltway. After all, Blair's existed in DTSS, and even though its new location is elsewhere, it is the only school for that part of the county.

Where we live in Western SS near the park, BCC is the closest school, not Einstein or Blair, but we're zoned to Blair. BCC will also play a part in this, especially with the ToK moving to Woodward.


Yes. Blair’s move from Wayne Ave in Silver Spring to Four Corners created some issues with the present boundaries. It will be interesting to see which neighborhoods are moved to Woodward et al to relive the crowding.


I could see them moving ESS and the Blair-zoned part of Sligo Creek to Northwood, which are both adjacent to the part of Sligo Creek already zoned to Northwood. That would allow them to keep the city of Takoma Park together at Blair.


The city of Takoma park is so far from any other schools it doesn’t make sense to do anything other than stay with Blair. Really a new high school in downtown silver spring or Takoma Park would make a lot of sense.


Where do you think this new high school should be?


Read my previous post.

Where specifically near downtown Silver Spring or Takoma Park is there an available parcel of ten or more acres for a new high school?


Some people had proposed the old Adventist hospital site, but apparently, the county wasn't interested. Anyway, that ship has sailed and there just aren't other options.
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


Blair's boundary is adjacent to Northwood and Einstein, so those must be trimmed back to make room. With Woodward opening, it should create sufficient space there to accommodate maybe 200 students; similarly, with Northwood's expansion, they can pick up a few hundred from the area outside (or near) the beltway. After all, Blair's existed in DTSS, and even though its new location is elsewhere, it is the only school for that part of the county.

Where we live in Western SS near the park, BCC is the closest school, not Einstein or Blair, but we're zoned to Blair. BCC will also play a part in this, especially with the ToK moving to Woodward.


Yes. Blair’s move from Wayne Ave in Silver Spring to Four Corners created some issues with the present boundaries. It will be interesting to see which neighborhoods are moved to Woodward et al to relive the crowding.


I could see them moving ESS and the Blair-zoned part of Sligo Creek to Northwood, which are both adjacent to the part of Sligo Creek already zoned to Northwood. That would allow them to keep the city of Takoma Park together at Blair.


The city of Takoma park is so far from any other schools it doesn’t make sense to do anything other than stay with Blair. Really a new high school in downtown silver spring or Takoma Park would make a lot of sense.


Where do you think this new high school should be?


Read my previous post.

Where specifically near downtown Silver Spring or Takoma Park is there an available parcel of ten or more acres for a new high school?


Some people had proposed the old Adventist hospital site, but apparently, the county wasn't interested. Anyway, that ship has sailed and there just aren't other options.


It’s still unused, and under discussion for future use, isn’t it? Certainly seems to be barely used and I walk by every day.
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


Blair's boundary is adjacent to Northwood and Einstein, so those must be trimmed back to make room. With Woodward opening, it should create sufficient space there to accommodate maybe 200 students; similarly, with Northwood's expansion, they can pick up a few hundred from the area outside (or near) the beltway. After all, Blair's existed in DTSS, and even though its new location is elsewhere, it is the only school for that part of the county.

Where we live in Western SS near the park, BCC is the closest school, not Einstein or Blair, but we're zoned to Blair. BCC will also play a part in this, especially with the ToK moving to Woodward.


Yes. Blair’s move from Wayne Ave in Silver Spring to Four Corners created some issues with the present boundaries. It will be interesting to see which neighborhoods are moved to Woodward et al to relive the crowding.


I could see them moving ESS and the Blair-zoned part of Sligo Creek to Northwood, which are both adjacent to the part of Sligo Creek already zoned to Northwood. That would allow them to keep the city of Takoma Park together at Blair.


The city of Takoma park is so far from any other schools it doesn’t make sense to do anything other than stay with Blair. Really a new high school in downtown silver spring or Takoma Park would make a lot of sense.


Where do you think this new high school should be?


Read my previous post.

Where specifically near downtown Silver Spring or Takoma Park is there an available parcel of ten or more acres for a new high school?


I’m not a real estate expert. Where do YOU think? Not my call. The point is there is no high school close to Takoma Park.
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


Blair's boundary is adjacent to Northwood and Einstein, so those must be trimmed back to make room. With Woodward opening, it should create sufficient space there to accommodate maybe 200 students; similarly, with Northwood's expansion, they can pick up a few hundred from the area outside (or near) the beltway. After all, Blair's existed in DTSS, and even though its new location is elsewhere, it is the only school for that part of the county.

Where we live in Western SS near the park, BCC is the closest school, not Einstein or Blair, but we're zoned to Blair. BCC will also play a part in this, especially with the ToK moving to Woodward.


Yes. Blair’s move from Wayne Ave in Silver Spring to Four Corners created some issues with the present boundaries. It will be interesting to see which neighborhoods are moved to Woodward et al to relive the crowding.


I could see them moving ESS and the Blair-zoned part of Sligo Creek to Northwood, which are both adjacent to the part of Sligo Creek already zoned to Northwood. That would allow them to keep the city of Takoma Park together at Blair.


The city of Takoma park is so far from any other schools it doesn’t make sense to do anything other than stay with Blair. Really a new high school in downtown silver spring or Takoma Park would make a lot of sense.


Where do you think this new high school should be?


Read my previous post.

Where specifically near downtown Silver Spring or Takoma Park is there an available parcel of ten or more acres for a new high school?


Some people had proposed the old Adventist hospital site, but apparently, the county wasn't interested. Anyway, that ship has sailed and there just aren't other options.


It’s still unused, and under discussion for future use, isn’t it? Certainly seems to be barely used and I walk by every day.


What's the fair market value?
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


Blair's boundary is adjacent to Northwood and Einstein, so those must be trimmed back to make room. With Woodward opening, it should create sufficient space there to accommodate maybe 200 students; similarly, with Northwood's expansion, they can pick up a few hundred from the area outside (or near) the beltway. After all, Blair's existed in DTSS, and even though its new location is elsewhere, it is the only school for that part of the county.

Where we live in Western SS near the park, BCC is the closest school, not Einstein or Blair, but we're zoned to Blair. BCC will also play a part in this, especially with the ToK moving to Woodward.


Yes. Blair’s move from Wayne Ave in Silver Spring to Four Corners created some issues with the present boundaries. It will be interesting to see which neighborhoods are moved to Woodward et al to relive the crowding.


I could see them moving ESS and the Blair-zoned part of Sligo Creek to Northwood, which are both adjacent to the part of Sligo Creek already zoned to Northwood. That would allow them to keep the city of Takoma Park together at Blair.


The city of Takoma park is so far from any other schools it doesn’t make sense to do anything other than stay with Blair. Really a new high school in downtown silver spring or Takoma Park would make a lot of sense.


Where do you think this new high school should be?


Read my previous post.

Where specifically near downtown Silver Spring or Takoma Park is there an available parcel of ten or more acres for a new high school?


Some people had proposed the old Adventist hospital site, but apparently, the county wasn't interested. Anyway, that ship has sailed and there just aren't other options.


It’s still unused, and under discussion for future use, isn’t it? Certainly seems to be barely used and I walk by every day.


What's the fair market value?


What do you think? I’m sure you could research that.
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I think that Adventist U has plans for that site, so there was never any real discussion about MCPS purchasing it simply because it was not offered for sale.

Now, if MCPS were willing to be a little creative, there are some options. For example, you could break off some part of Blair to the old John Nevins Andrews School, which is relatively close. Kids could still do extracurriculars at Blair, but might do half of their day or more at the "annex" building. For programs like CAP where half of their day is blocked for magnet classes anyway, that could be an option to relieve crowding. Blair does one lunch period, so the groups could "swap" at that time.



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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


Blair's boundary is adjacent to Northwood and Einstein, so those must be trimmed back to make room. With Woodward opening, it should create sufficient space there to accommodate maybe 200 students; similarly, with Northwood's expansion, they can pick up a few hundred from the area outside (or near) the beltway. After all, Blair's existed in DTSS, and even though its new location is elsewhere, it is the only school for that part of the county.

Where we live in Western SS near the park, BCC is the closest school, not Einstein or Blair, but we're zoned to Blair. BCC will also play a part in this, especially with the ToK moving to Woodward.


Yes. Blair’s move from Wayne Ave in Silver Spring to Four Corners created some issues with the present boundaries. It will be interesting to see which neighborhoods are moved to Woodward et al to relive the crowding.


I could see them moving ESS and the Blair-zoned part of Sligo Creek to Northwood, which are both adjacent to the part of Sligo Creek already zoned to Northwood. That would allow them to keep the city of Takoma Park together at Blair.


The city of Takoma park is so far from any other schools it doesn’t make sense to do anything other than stay with Blair. Really a new high school in downtown silver spring or Takoma Park would make a lot of sense.


Where do you think this new high school should be?


Read my previous post.

Where specifically near downtown Silver Spring or Takoma Park is there an available parcel of ten or more acres for a new high school?

30+ acres for a HS in MoCo (and 30 is small). MCPS hasn't purchased land for a new school in decades, certainly not pricey downtown space. It's not going to happen. Next!
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone give a quick overview re what might happen with Takoma park schools? Any likelihood that TPMS or Blair boundaries will change for homes in Takoma Park.


Blair's boundary is adjacent to Northwood and Einstein, so those must be trimmed back to make room. With Woodward opening, it should create sufficient space there to accommodate maybe 200 students; similarly, with Northwood's expansion, they can pick up a few hundred from the area outside (or near) the beltway. After all, Blair's existed in DTSS, and even though its new location is elsewhere, it is the only school for that part of the county.

Where we live in Western SS near the park, BCC is the closest school, not Einstein or Blair, but we're zoned to Blair. BCC will also play a part in this, especially with the ToK moving to Woodward.


Yes. Blair’s move from Wayne Ave in Silver Spring to Four Corners created some issues with the present boundaries. It will be interesting to see which neighborhoods are moved to Woodward et al to relive the crowding.


I could see them moving ESS and the Blair-zoned part of Sligo Creek to Northwood, which are both adjacent to the part of Sligo Creek already zoned to Northwood. That would allow them to keep the city of Takoma Park together at Blair.


The city of Takoma park is so far from any other schools it doesn’t make sense to do anything other than stay with Blair. Really a new high school in downtown silver spring or Takoma Park would make a lot of sense.


Where do you think this new high school should be?


Read my previous post.

Where specifically near downtown Silver Spring or Takoma Park is there an available parcel of ten or more acres for a new high school?

30+ acres for a HS in MoCo (and 30 is small). MCPS hasn't purchased land for a new school in decades, certainly not pricey downtown space. It's not going to happen. Next!


BCC's site is ~16 acres, and is the smallest HS site in the county. But I agree they aren't going to be able to find a site of that size in DTSS or TKPK.
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Here’s the link to the proposed Takoma Park HS some of you have been mentioning: https://takomatorch.com/index.php/2019/11/13/takoma-park-announces-plans-for-new-high-school/
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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the proposed Takoma Park HS some of you have been mentioning: https://takomatorch.com/index.php/2019/11/13/takoma-park-announces-plans-for-new-high-school/

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