+1 after all, if if you don’t want to be pregnant, don’t have sex. AND, it’s Womens fault mediocre white men become gaming addicted Incels. |
Yes! What sleaze ball. He took such obvious please in the cooerced penetration of women. Why are conservative men so hung up with sex? |
Because none of them grew up with anything remotely sex positive and none of them have put in any work to become sex positive. Look at Ben Shapiro’s personal life of sadness. His poor wife. |
+1. My DH and I were discussing this last night. My kids college does mandatory consent training for freshman, which is the sort of thing conservatives rail against. But, I think it’s essential and should be taught earlier. In our home it was discussed stressed during high school that boys and girls need to check in and make sure their partner not only agrees to sexual activity, but is enthusiastic about it, not reluctant. And that if something makes you uncomfortable, you need to say so, clearly, even if it feels strange. If 16-18 year olds are new to sex, it’s easy to focus on all the new powerful feelings you have and miss subtle signals your partner send out. And it’s hard in a completely new situation to speak up when someone else has strong expectations and might get upset. But if you don’t, what happens isn’t rape, but can still be damaging to teens and lead to all sorts of emotional messes. You have a right to a sex life you are comfortable with. You have an obligation to be as clear as you can as early as you can about what your wants and needs and boundaries are. Teaching this seems so fundamental. But conservatives act like it’s taboo. |
Better advice to a 16 y/o child... don't have sex until you're an adult. That's what conservatives don't like about it - that abstinence is treated as if it's somehow a bad thing. How about emphasize that as the initial solution - and THEN - discuss fallbacks. Rather than simply dismissing it constantly |
Humans are mammals. Mammals are programmed to procreate. Good luck telling the average 16 year old to wait when their biological programming tells them otherwise. |
Teaching abstinence is not the job of government. Learning about their bodies, sex and consent should be taught in schools. If you want to teach your kids abstinence is the only way, then have the conversation. We don’t need to sanitize the whole world because you’re too lazy to parent. |
Don’t have sex as a 16 year old - unless you’re in one of the states where conservatives are trying to lower the age of marriage to 12. I think, on this thread about a corrupt Texas judge ruining women’s rights across the country, that the full crazy of the GOP’s bad takes on women’s rights, sexuality and the politics of sex is apparent. Absolutely s**t takes on everything. |
Yes. We also teach that sex can have serious physical and emotional consequences and should be one part of a healthy relationship. And that we feel that most HS kids are not ready for the responsibilities of being in a sexual relationship. But we are realistic. It’s not a one time talk. It’s an ongoing dialogue that changes as they mature and start dating. |
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And condoms are not 100% effective-you’ve not seen the whole Emma arc on Friends?
You can be responsible, but accidents still happen I have friends from college whose 3rd child was a birth control failure (not condoms - I believe it was an IUD). Luckily, they both have well paying jobs-MBA and lawyer. They decided to have another child despite it being unplanned. These things happen. Not everyone can be my friends with plenty of resources to accommodate a child resulting from a birth control failure. |
I had an IUD failure, but the pregnancy was ectopic. It was traumatic, but in the end I was grateful. I’m pro-choice, but I wanted the third and could not have had an abortion. But the previous pregnancy had severely compromised my health and I was told I could not safely have another baby. Ironically, my SIL was also an IUD failure. Coincidences happen, but it does make me question the claim of 99.9% effective. But, if the pregnancy had been viable, the choice whether to continue with it should have been mine and my husband’s. Not Ron DeSantis’s or Chance Thomas’s. |
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And there are others like you who have been told not to have more kids for physical or mental health reasons. So a birth control failure could actually be life or death for them or others.
There have been at least 2 high profile cases of moms with post partum psychosis killing their kids. Andrea Yates was told not to have more, but because of weird religious crap, they went ahead. Please remember these things when you force women to continue gestating when it could actually be dangerous |
There was no “they” in that equation; she did not get a say in how many children she had. That’s the kind of life Republican voters want for all women evidently. |
My 8yo niece is the result of an IUD failure, too. I think it is more common than people realize, but IUD often ends in an ectopic. |
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In this article, there’s a photo of a baby, looking fresh from a c-section, with an IUD tangled in her hair.
https://www.kidspot.com.au/baby/real-life/in-the-news/like-a-bobby-pin-baby-born-with-iud-in-her-hair/news-story/c329821aa1534c78dfe28d5961a9eb7b?amp&nk=f696619541613dff81d23e660dc873f8-1681664262 No completely on topic, but it’s an interesting picture of failed birth control. |