When are we expecting a verdict/resolution for the Supreme Court decision?
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Duh.
It’s totally racist Anything that makes official decisions based on different combinations of skin color/type of hair/ facial features is totally illegal |
I have been saying for a while now that legacies is the worst form of hording privilege and elitism, and that colleges like Harvard throw a bone at "diversity" with their "holistic" admissions all while they continue to "keep it in the family" with legacies. |
Why shouldn't they be allowed to as long as they don't break the law? Do you know how nepotism works in general, as in business? You don't have to like it - no one does - but they do what is right for them in a capitalist system. And before you scream "but they pay no taxes and get fed $$$" remember so do churches and all non-profits so opening that door means women priests in the catholic church and open enrollment at all country clubs and many other things, so be prepared to commit to it all if you take that position. |
The biggest irony is that the people in favor of affirmative action say colleges should be allowed to do whatever they want to do |
Not all the URMs at Harvard are privileged though! My daughter is a freshman at Harvard and has met many URMs who are FGLI. She is in awe of everything they have accomplished and says she enjoys the diverse perspectives they bring to campus. BUT she knows one legacy URM from a very privileged background there. The less we say about him, the better for all! |
Wait until they start discriminating against blacks and Jews again. |
It's interesting how fervently people are against AA but not athletic recruiting and legacy admissions. So if rich white legacies and athletes are stealing you kid's spot its ok, but if the person is Black or Hispanic, that's a no go? |
Many of the URM in the Ivy league are 1st or 2nd generation children of immigrants from Africa or Central/South America. So these immigrant families have never experience the racism or injustice in the U.S. but they are taking advantage of the AA. Colleges only care about if you are a URM (not where your ancestral lineage is from) so they can check the boxes that they have certain % of URM in their class for diversity purpose. |
Why do you say that the 1st or 2nd generation children of immigrants from Africa or Central/South America are “taking advantage of the AA?” I think your anger is misplaced. The kids cannot do anything about their race. It is up to the colleges to accept the right URMs — the ones whose ancestors were slaves. |
It all comes down to $$$$$. Legacy admission is about $ and donation from alumni. Ability for a kid to get into Ivy is many times base on the privilege of the family. If the family has $$, it doesn't matter what color they are, they will have a better chance with private schools, private tutors, and private counselor........ Asians tend to have a higher representation in elite schools due to a cultural emphasis on academics AND that Asians have the highest average income among all groups BUT that is all just stereotyping the group. The same can be said for other groups that raise their kids with high academic goals and the $ to fulfill those goals. Colleges should base the decision on the "family privilege" rather than skin color. This would allow poor whites (yes, there are more whites below the poverty line than other races) as well as other poor minorities to be judged on their achievement with limited $ privilege. |
Is it so strange that some people perceive racial discrimination as a worse evil than garden-variety favoritism on other grounds? I would expect that to be a relatively common point of view. And no one would suggest it was not racial discrimination if Black applicants were being held to higher objective criteria, such as grades and test scores, to have a reasonable chance of admissions relative to other racial groups. Particularly if some sort of subjective “personality factor” was driving that outcome. |
This AGAIN shows how people don't understand why colleges seek racial balance in admissions. It is not a form of reparations or guilt. The main reason they do it because if they are devoid of a certain race it is very difficult to get other students they want of that race to attend. Many of you don't know this because you never read a book on the subject, or have spoken to a college administrator or admissions professional. If you did, you'd get it. But you won't because that will defeat your narrative. |
The reality is that there are a limited number of spots, so deciding you need a critical mass of one racial group necessarily means making you you don’t have “too many” of another. That’s flatly illegal, and for good reasons. |
Correction, Making sure you don’t have too many. |