Help DS Decide: Duke ED or Harvard/Princeton REA

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Anonymous wrote:The kid isn’t getting into Harvard or Princeton. Not gonna happen.

Why not? These schools are a crapshoot and as long as you hit the minimum anything is fair game. Anecdotal but the valedictorian at my son’s public school with a 1550 SAT and solid extracurriculars (nothing unheard of though) got into only Harvard and Georgetown out of his reach schools after applying to 3 other ivies, Duke, and Northwestern. Of course he was more than happy to attend Harvard but there were certainly kids we thought were “stronger” who didn’t even get waitlisted at Harvard while getting into some of the schools he was rejected from. It’s all a lottery.

Did he apply Harvard early action or regular decision?

He applied regular to Harvard. He deferred then rejected from Princeton early action.

+1. for some reasons, Princeton does not like kids from DMV.

Maybe, I don't think it's a regional thing, they take plenty of kids from the DMV. For what it's worth, arguably Sidwell's most influential business alumnus is a Princeton graduate: Mason Morfit, the CEO of the major hedge fund ValueAct Capital. Unrelated but funny is that the founder of ValueAct and Mason's former boss before handing the reins to him actually went to Duke for undergrad.

I saw Mason Morfit's wedding coverage on Vogue, it looked super elegant! He married Jordana Brewster from Fast and Furious. For those curious: https://www.vogue.com/slideshow/jordana-brewster-mason-morfit-wedding-villa-montecito

Looks like every other rich person wedding to me. Many of these Princeton and Duke and Harvard grads will go on to have weddings like this, it's nothing special for their ilk.

That's a bit reductive, it's pretty rare to be the leader of a top hedge fund even for Princeton, Duke, and Harvard graduates.

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Anonymous wrote:It matters what high school he is in. Is it public (magnet, top public, regular public), private (top or regular)? Also, is him white, Asian, or URM?

Of course URM

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Anonymous wrote:It matters what high school he is in. Is it public (magnet, top public, regular public), private (top or regular)? Also, is him white, Asian, or URM?

Of course URM

Op already said his son is white.

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Anonymous wrote:It matters what high school he is in. Is it public (magnet, top public, regular public), private (top or regular)? Also, is him white, Asian, or URM?

Of course URM

Why of course?

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Anonymous wrote:It matters what high school he is in. Is it public (magnet, top public, regular public), private (top or regular)? Also, is him white, Asian, or URM?

Of course URM

Op already said his son is white.

+1 and even then white is not as competitive as Asian nowadays.

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Anonymous wrote:It matters what high school he is in. Is it public (magnet, top public, regular public), private (top or regular)? Also, is him white, Asian, or URM?

Of course URM

Op already said his son is white.

+1 and even then white is not as competitive as Asian nowadays.

Asian male

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Anonymous wrote:It matters what high school he is in. Is it public (magnet, top public, regular public), private (top or regular)? Also, is him white, Asian, or URM?

Of course URM

Op already said his son is white.

+1 and even then white is not as competitive as Asian nowadays.

Asian male

Yes especially Asian male. But it's no cakewalk for white male either.

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Anonymous wrote:It matters what high school he is in. Is it public (magnet, top public, regular public), private (top or regular)? Also, is him white, Asian, or URM?

Of course URM

Op already said his son is white.

+1 and even then white is not as competitive as Asian nowadays.

Asian male

Yes especially Asian male. But it's no cakewalk for white male either.

That depends on what area — white and Asian males at a huge disadvantage for CS, engineering, business. BUT, they have a huge advantage when applying for humanities.

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Anonymous wrote:It matters what high school he is in. Is it public (magnet, top public, regular public), private (top or regular)? Also, is him white, Asian, or URM?

Of course URM

Op already said his son is white.

+1 and even then white is not as competitive as Asian nowadays.

Asian male

Yes especially Asian male. But it's no cakewalk for white male either.

That depends on what area — white and Asian males at a huge disadvantage for CS, engineering, business. BUT, they have a huge advantage when applying for humanities.

How about natural sciences, such as physics, chemistry, biology? Do Asian/white males also have a huge disadvantage?

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Anonymous wrote:It matters what high school he is in. Is it public (magnet, top public, regular public), private (top or regular)? Also, is him white, Asian, or URM?

Of course URM

Op already said his son is white.

+1 and even then white is not as competitive as Asian nowadays.

Asian male

Yes especially Asian male. But it's no cakewalk for white male either.

That depends on what area — white and Asian males at a huge disadvantage for CS, engineering, business. BUT, they have a huge advantage when applying for humanities.

How about natural sciences, such as physics, chemistry, biology? Do Asian/white males also have a huge disadvantage?

No, I don’t think so. Most schools house the natural sciences in the school of arts and sciences, and A&S usually has more females. So I think males could have an advantage, especially if apply to A&S with undecided major.

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OP your son looks like a solid candidate for any of those schools, it sounds like he wants Duke so go for Duke!

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Anonymous wrote:OP your son looks like a solid candidate for any of those schools, it sounds like he wants Duke so go for Duke!

+1 I visited with DD and it looks like a great place for undergraduate studies. The campus is beautiful too.

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Funnily enough, my best friend is part of a double Princeton & Duke legacy family so this was a question their 3 kids debated over. Two of them went Princeton and the third went Duke.

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Anonymous wrote:Funnily enough, my best friend is part of a double Princeton & Duke legacy family so this was a question their 3 kids debated over. Two of them went Princeton and the third went Duke.

That's a nice problem to have. Is your best friend a big donor or did the kids just happen to be really smart? I don't think all three kids go to Princeton and Duke unless it's one or the other.

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Anonymous wrote:It matters what high school he is in. Is it public (magnet, top public, regular public), private (top or regular)? Also, is him white, Asian, or URM?

Of course URM

Op already said his son is white.

+1 and even then white is not as competitive as Asian nowadays.

Asian male

Yes especially Asian male. But it's no cakewalk for white male either.

That depends on what area — white and Asian males at a huge disadvantage for CS, engineering, business. BUT, they have a huge advantage when applying for humanities.

+1 nowadays asian male for CS is a bloodbath