Lyon Village - please explain

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Anonymous wrote:That is the first time I've heard of Ashton Heights ever carrying more cachet than Lyon Village - and this was only 9 years ago? Weird!

That's because it's not true. There aren't any 12k lots and AH doesn't even abut LV so that post doesn't make any sense. PP probably means LP.

And all three of those neighborhoods are great for kid stuff/tweens.

I've found a handful of 11,600sf lots and some 16-20k sf lots in Lyon Village. Agree on probably meaning Lyon Park though - until I moved to Ashton Heights I assumed AH/LP was all one neighborhood. In truth AH/LP west of Wash Blvd feels like one cohesive neighborhood and the LP part east of Wash Blvd feels like another.

Agree - it feels like one big neighborhood. There are a couple 12k lots in AH/LP.

There are more 15,000sf+ lots within walking distance of a metro in AH/LP than anywhere else. Whole mess of them actually. Makes me very nervous about Missing Middle and how many new apartment buildings will sprout up in the middle of the neighborhood overnight.

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Anonymous wrote:Less year round camping in Arlington, that's a plus.

😆 lol

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Anonymous wrote:damn, you can even get this lovely affordable condo for GS 10/10 schools a few minutes from the Scarsdale Metro North.

https://www.redfin.com/NY/Scarsdale/209-Garth-Rd-10583/unit-5A/home/181636448

I HATE DMV REAL ESTATE.

But you will love its real estate taxes. In Arlington the tax rate is $1.013 per $1,000 of assessed valuation. In Scarsdale, it is $3.45 per $1,000 of assessed valuation.

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Anonymous wrote:That is the first time I've heard of Ashton Heights ever carrying more cachet than Lyon Village - and this was only 9 years ago? Weird!

That's because it's not true. There aren't any 12k lots and AH doesn't even abut LV so that post doesn't make any sense. PP probably means LP.

And all three of those neighborhoods are great for kid stuff/tweens.

I just sold an 11, 000 sq ft lot in Ashton Heights to a builder to bank for Missing Middle housing.

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Anonymous wrote:LV commands a premium because in this area, you have people who can afford $3M houses but who still need to schlep downtown to work long hours every day. They want an easy commute, safe neighborhood and nice single family houses.

But why dumpy Lyon Village (just being honest) vs something lovely just a little further out? These high earners are no doubt driving to work anyway.

Hence my theory: invasion of the super rich FAANGs.

You don’t need a theory, we are telling you that it’s always been desirable. It seems like you are just learning about LV but it’s been relatively expensive compared to other Arlington neighborhoods for at least 15 years. We don’t think it’s dumpy, we like our neighbors who are of different ages and backgrounds and incomes.

But it hasn’t “always been desireable.” You have a very uninteresting point of view. And it is dumpy compared to other neighborhoods. It’s 1.5 mil max aesthetic. You’ll never convince me it’s $3 mil aesthetic.

If anything this conversation has actually given me an appreciation of historic districts lol.

The only single family neighborhood in Arlington with historic designation is Maywood. Except for some new builds or recently renovated big homes, most houses are considerably less expensive than Lyon Village. If you cannot afford Lyon Village, it might suit you.

LV is on the National Historic Register (no restrictions).

So is Buckingham, Fairlington, and the Commons of Arlington. Are you comparing LV to those condo communities and low income apartment complex?

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Anonymous wrote:damn, you can even get this lovely affordable condo for GS 10/10 schools a few minutes from the Scarsdale Metro North.

https://www.redfin.com/NY/Scarsdale/209-Garth-Rd-10583/unit-5A/home/181636448

I HATE DMV REAL ESTATE.

But you will love its real estate taxes. In Arlington the tax rate is $1.013 per $1,000 of assessed valuation. In Scarsdale, it is $3.45 per $1,000 of assessed valuation.

which goes to pay for those excellent schools and visibility better upkeep of roads and public space… I’ll take it!

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Anonymous wrote:Capitol Hill tends to attract younger families with younger children who are transitioning from urban to suburban living. When the kids get older, the families start getting more Karen-esqe and become overly paranoid about crime and obsessive about the test scores and demographic make up of the local schools. And, yes, they won’t say it but they think it: too many black people.

Lyon Village affords an escape from all of this. To the poster who says that there are plenty of black people In Arlington, that’s really not true and certainly not true in Lyon Village. It’s white and sterile AF and that’s the demographic it attracts. There’s nothing urban about it.

When we became empty nesters about a decade ago, we were living in North Arlington by the McLean border. We really wanted a more lively, walkable, and truly urban experience. We looked closely in Lyon Village because we were very comfortable with Arlington and it seemed like a safe next step. But when we looked more closely we realized it was basically the same people and way of thing as where we were already living - just packed much more closely together. There’s nothing more interesting about it in terms of people than 22207 except it has bars for the white frat bros. We decided it wasn’t what we wanted and focused on DC.

There’s little question that Arlington’s public services are better than DC’s. But we have had very little need for DC services other than trash pick up and the DMV and they both measure up just fine to Arlington in our experience.

You don’t really notice just how white that part of Arlington is when you’re living there. Once you leave it’s readily apparent. We wouldn’t say we regret raising our family there exactly - we and our kids have very fond memories - but were we starting in 2022 we’d do things differently.

Wait so you lived in the most isolated part of N Arlington and are now accusing others of moving to Arlington to avoid black people. Pot meet kettle.

And of course you don't use city services, you are an empty nester!! We use Arlington services for our kids all the time.

And re: the accusation of racism: We know people who were planning to send their kids to an incredibly diverse DC public school. They finally left because of gun violence on their street- multiple instances of gun violence, one which ended in a death. There are people who are happy to send their kids to diverse public schools but will not tolerate violent crime. That’s not racism.

As I said, the parents get older and their kids get older, and the paranoia about crime sets in. Yes, crime is worse in DC. Far worse. And something really needs to be done. But your kids are not going to get murdered. Really. They’re not.

That’s pretty easy for you to say because you never had to worry about it. Crouching down during a drive-by and worrying about stray bullets isn’t paranoia. Just stop.

I've lived in DC for 22 years now. Before and after having kids. I have a twelve year old, so this kid thing is not new for me. I've never, ever crouched down to avoid a stray bullet. Never been held up at gunpoint in DC. Never seen someone use drugs other than marijuana in my neighborhood. Never had cash taken from my hotel room or my purse. Never had credit card fraud perpetrated. I've had all of these things happen in other places. Nicaragua, Baltimore, Rockville, Mexico City. I don't hide away, but I haven't had a problem with crime here. I think more people have exaggerated fears about crime in DC then have actual experiences with crime there. And, having lived in North Arlington, the old people and the nervous people spend a lot more time talking about how crime-ridden and scary and awful DC is than they do exploring DC. So they aren't really the most educated judges of DC.

Truth. I would stay in DC forever but for the school situation.

The school situation in Arlington is much better and the reason why is Arlington's "old people" who made the schools so good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:damn, you can even get this lovely affordable condo for GS 10/10 schools a few minutes from the Scarsdale Metro North.

https://www.redfin.com/NY/Scarsdale/209-Garth-Rd-10583/unit-5A/home/181636448

I HATE DMV REAL ESTATE.

But you will love its real estate taxes. In Arlington the tax rate is $1.013 per $1,000 of assessed valuation. In Scarsdale, it is $3.45 per $1,000 of assessed valuation.

which goes to pay for those excellent schools and visibility better upkeep of roads and public space… I’ll take it!

We will miss you in the DMV. Learn to play Mahjong, and you'll do fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:damn, you can even get this lovely affordable condo for GS 10/10 schools a few minutes from the Scarsdale Metro North.

https://www.redfin.com/NY/Scarsdale/209-Garth-Rd-10583/unit-5A/home/181636448

I HATE DMV REAL ESTATE.

But you will love its real estate taxes. In Arlington the tax rate is $1.013 per $1,000 of assessed valuation. In Scarsdale, it is $3.45 per $1,000 of assessed valuation.

This is exactly why I bust out laughing anytime people here complain about property taxes.

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Anonymous wrote:That is the first time I've heard of Ashton Heights ever carrying more cachet than Lyon Village - and this was only 9 years ago? Weird!

That's because it's not true. There aren't any 12k lots and AH doesn't even abut LV so that post doesn't make any sense. PP probably means LP.

And all three of those neighborhoods are great for kid stuff/tweens.

I just sold an 11, 000 sq ft lot in Ashton Heights to a builder to bank for Missing Middle housing.

OK. There still aren't any 12k lots in LV. Some bigger/some smaller. The PP probably misremembered their old neighborhood. Or the lot size. Something. Facts don't line up.

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Anonymous wrote:LV commands a premium because in this area, you have people who can afford $3M houses but who still need to schlep downtown to work long hours every day. They want an easy commute, safe neighborhood and nice single family houses.

But why dumpy Lyon Village (just being honest) vs something lovely just a little further out? These high earners are no doubt driving to work anyway.

Hence my theory: invasion of the super rich FAANGs.

You don’t need a theory, we are telling you that it’s always been desirable. It seems like you are just learning about LV but it’s been relatively expensive compared to other Arlington neighborhoods for at least 15 years. We don’t think it’s dumpy, we like our neighbors who are of different ages and backgrounds and incomes.

But it hasn’t “always been desireable.” You have a very uninteresting point of view. And it is dumpy compared to other neighborhoods. It’s 1.5 mil max aesthetic. You’ll never convince me it’s $3 mil aesthetic.

If anything this conversation has actually given me an appreciation of historic districts lol.

The only single family neighborhood in Arlington with historic designation is Maywood. Except for some new builds or recently renovated big homes, most houses are considerably less expensive than Lyon Village. If you cannot afford Lyon Village, it might suit you.

LV is on the National Historic Register (no restrictions).

So is Buckingham, Fairlington, and the Commons of Arlington. Are you comparing LV to those condo communities and low income apartment complex?

All it means is that they are all historic. All-brick Buckingham is WAY more charming than many new-construction apt buildings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That is the first time I've heard of Ashton Heights ever carrying more cachet than Lyon Village - and this was only 9 years ago? Weird!

That's because it's not true. There aren't any 12k lots and AH doesn't even abut LV so that post doesn't make any sense. PP probably means LP.

And all three of those neighborhoods are great for kid stuff/tweens.

I just sold an 11, 000 sq ft lot in Ashton Heights to a builder to bank for Missing Middle housing.

What kind? They aren’t going to allow 6 or 8 plexes but I could see duplexes or townhouses being built there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That is the first time I've heard of Ashton Heights ever carrying more cachet than Lyon Village - and this was only 9 years ago? Weird!

That's because it's not true. There aren't any 12k lots and AH doesn't even abut LV so that post doesn't make any sense. PP probably means LP.

And all three of those neighborhoods are great for kid stuff/tweens.

I just sold an 11, 000 sq ft lot in Ashton Heights to a builder to bank for Missing Middle housing.

Oh! This is exciting news! I am in the missing middle. I hope this becomes a real thing. And I hope the homes aren’t ugly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That is the first time I've heard of Ashton Heights ever carrying more cachet than Lyon Village - and this was only 9 years ago? Weird!

That's because it's not true. There aren't any 12k lots and AH doesn't even abut LV so that post doesn't make any sense. PP probably means LP.

And all three of those neighborhoods are great for kid stuff/tweens.

I just sold an 11, 000 sq ft lot in Ashton Heights to a builder to bank for Missing Middle housing.

Oh! This is exciting news! I am in the missing middle. I hope this becomes a real thing. And I hope the homes aren’t ugly.

It’s def a thing! Investors are buying them so they will mostly be rentals. But if you’re looking to rent, there will likely be duplex and townhouse options. You won’t see many of them for sale, if that’s what you were hoping.

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Anonymous wrote:That is the first time I've heard of Ashton Heights ever carrying more cachet than Lyon Village - and this was only 9 years ago? Weird!

That's because it's not true. There aren't any 12k lots and AH doesn't even abut LV so that post doesn't make any sense. PP probably means LP.

And all three of those neighborhoods are great for kid stuff/tweens.

I just sold an 11, 000 sq ft lot in Ashton Heights to a builder to bank for Missing Middle housing.

Best I can hope for is that they only allow duplexes and maybe triplexes on the biggest lots. These are all going to be rentals. Arlington already has a ton of rentals. The board is just virtue signaling their progressive credentials and then 2/5 of them aren't even going to run for another term. What a sham process.