How can we improve the childcare crisis?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We could start by teaching people to live within their means.

There aren’t enough “means” to live within when you’re a daycare teacher. Minimum wage and all the colds you can catch.

Talking about parents who are complaining childcare should be subsidized.

Accredited daycare centers should be subsidized to pay the teachers a living wage! That is the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Move out of the city/close in suburbs. I live in Loudoun and there are plenty of options here. For camps too. And aftercare.

Yeah, what is this alleged crisis? I have kids. I work. I pay for childcare. All my own choices and responsibilities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are very few ways to improve the childcare crisis. Young children need care and close supervision. They go to school around age 5. Until this time, you have to fork over money to pay for their care. The good news is that it’s for a short period of time.

Everyone thinks European parental leave is so great but really they are just paying women an extremely low wage to stay home with kids. The media or even Europeans talk about their “fully paid leave,” but rarely disclose that the max you can even get is $200-300 a week. Who wants to stay home for an entire year with a baby for $20k? This is a great deal if you were already planning to SAH, but it’s hardly a panacea and comical that American women are jealous of this benefit. No thanks.

You forgot the other aspect - job protection. I would have been thrilled for a year of job protection and $20k! Plus it's a long enough vacancy that they actually hire temps, which keeps coworkers from being as overwhelmed and gives entry level people more opportunities in my field. Sounds good!

This. I would have happily sacrificed most of my paycheck if I could have guaranteed my job after staying home with my kid for a year. I hated paying someone else to be with my baby just so I could keep my job, but I’d heard too many stories of SAHM’s struggling to return to work to risk quitting do I could have more time with my child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We could start by teaching people to live within their means.

Yes! It won’t happen, but YES.

What world do you live in? Daycare teachers make minimum wage. How do you live with that in DC? This is why we can’t keep daycare caregivers.

They aren’t talking about daycare workers. They’re talking about two parent families who think living in big houses in expensive neighborhoods, with multiple vacations a year, expensive extracurriculars, eating out regularly etc are necessities, so therefore they both HAVE to work full-time from the moment of their child’s birth to fund that lifestyle, thus they HAVE to pay for childcare, and then complain about the cost.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Free free free. I want everything for me. I am a parent and you owe me that .

Yee haw!

You actually do owe me. We have no future without children.

Did you go to public school, PP?

DP but nope we sure don't. Posting the same question in bad faith about public school over and over again doesn't change that, unfortunately.

It’s actually on point. We, as American taxpayers, fully fund public school education from k thru 12 for the betterment of our society. Those of us comparing public school with daycare are exactly on point. Why public school and not daycare? It’s outdated thinking to say education starts at five. Learning starts at birth.

It’s a very apt comparison, PP. Even if you don’t send your kids to public school, you’re still paying for it.

Yes, we are paying for it, and we are paying for ENOUGH. Pay for your own childcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Free free free. I want everything for me. I am a parent and you owe me that .

Yee haw!

You actually do owe me. We have no future without children.

Did you go to public school, PP?

DP but nope we sure don't. Posting the same question in bad faith about public school over and over again doesn't change that, unfortunately.

It’s actually on point. We, as American taxpayers, fully fund public school education from k thru 12 for the betterment of our society. Those of us comparing public school with daycare are exactly on point. Why public school and not daycare? It’s outdated thinking to say education starts at five. Learning starts at birth.

It’s a very apt comparison, PP. Even if you don’t send your kids to public school, you’re still paying for it.

Yes, we are paying for it, and we are paying for ENOUGH. Pay for your own childcare.

That doesn’t make sense, PP, any more than “pay for your own child’s elementary school or high school”. 5 is totally arbitrary. We were able to hire a nanny and now our kids are in private school but I have no issue paying taxes for public education or accredited daycare. The country does better with educated kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Free free free. I want everything for me. I am a parent and you owe me that .

Yee haw!

You actually do owe me. We have no future without children.

Did you go to public school, PP?

DP but nope we sure don't. Posting the same question in bad faith about public school over and over again doesn't change that, unfortunately.

It’s actually on point. We, as American taxpayers, fully fund public school education from k thru 12 for the betterment of our society. Those of us comparing public school with daycare are exactly on point. Why public school and not daycare? It’s outdated thinking to say education starts at five. Learning starts at birth.

It’s a very apt comparison, PP. Even if you don’t send your kids to public school, you’re still paying for it.

Yes, we are paying for it, and we are paying for ENOUGH. Pay for your own childcare.

That doesn’t make sense, PP, any more than “pay for your own child’s elementary school or high school”. 5 is totally arbitrary. We were able to hire a nanny and now our kids are in private school but I have no issue paying taxes for public education or accredited daycare. The country does better with educated kids.

Oh please shut up. America is built on a system of counties, small towns, and cities - all of which deploy their own education system and share out spending based on the decisions of a very local population. While County A may spend $2 billion a year and 55% of its tax base on the school system, County B may only elect to spend $100 million and 10% of its tax base. That is up to them and you. We are not obligated to spend more because you don't want to spend a DIME educating or providing resources for your own children from the moment they are born. The rest of American society did not decide to have your child, you did. You can stop spending so much on your vacation funds and instead allocate that to daycare like sane human beings. The entitlement is unreal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Free free free. I want everything for me. I am a parent and you owe me that .

Yee haw!

You actually do owe me. We have no future without children.

Did you go to public school, PP?

DP but nope we sure don't. Posting the same question in bad faith about public school over and over again doesn't change that, unfortunately.

It’s actually on point. We, as American taxpayers, fully fund public school education from k thru 12 for the betterment of our society. Those of us comparing public school with daycare are exactly on point. Why public school and not daycare? It’s outdated thinking to say education starts at five. Learning starts at birth.

It’s a very apt comparison, PP. Even if you don’t send your kids to public school, you’re still paying for it.

Yes, we are paying for it, and we are paying for ENOUGH. Pay for your own childcare.

That doesn’t make sense, PP, any more than “pay for your own child’s elementary school or high school”. 5 is totally arbitrary. We were able to hire a nanny and now our kids are in private school but I have no issue paying taxes for public education or accredited daycare. The country does better with educated kids.

Oh please shut up. America is built on a system of counties, small towns, and cities - all of which deploy their own education system and share out spending based on the decisions of a very local population. While County A may spend $2 billion a year and 55% of its tax base on the school system, County B may only elect to spend $100 million and 10% of its tax base. That is up to them and you. We are not obligated to spend more because you don't want to spend a DIME educating or providing resources for your own children from the moment they are born. The rest of American society did not decide to have your child, you did. You can stop spending so much on your vacation funds and instead allocate that to daycare like sane human beings. The entitlement is unreal.

You shut up, fool. We aren’t obligated to educate anyone ever but we do because it’s in the best interest of our country. It’s the same with prek now and preschool.

I have no issues paying for what’s going to give us healthier, smarter kids. And I have all grown kids I stayed home with and paid to attend private schools so shut the f up on the “entitlement” crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We could start by teaching people to live within their means.

There aren’t enough “means” to live within when you’re a daycare teacher. Minimum wage and all the colds you can catch.

Talking about parents who are complaining childcare should be subsidized.

Accredited daycare centers should be subsidized to pay the teachers a living wage! That is the point.

Its not the government's job. The day care needs to manage the money better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Free free free. I want everything for me. I am a parent and you owe me that .

Yee haw!

You actually do owe me. We have no future without children.

Did you go to public school, PP?

DP but nope we sure don't. Posting the same question in bad faith about public school over and over again doesn't change that, unfortunately.

It’s actually on point. We, as American taxpayers, fully fund public school education from k thru 12 for the betterment of our society. Those of us comparing public school with daycare are exactly on point. Why public school and not daycare? It’s outdated thinking to say education starts at five. Learning starts at birth.

It’s a very apt comparison, PP. Even if you don’t send your kids to public school, you’re still paying for it.

Yes, we are paying for it, and we are paying for ENOUGH. Pay for your own childcare.

That doesn’t make sense, PP, any more than “pay for your own child’s elementary school or high school”. 5 is totally arbitrary. We were able to hire a nanny and now our kids are in private school but I have no issue paying taxes for public education or accredited daycare. The country does better with educated kids.

Oh please shut up. America is built on a system of counties, small towns, and cities - all of which deploy their own education system and share out spending based on the decisions of a very local population. While County A may spend $2 billion a year and 55% of its tax base on the school system, County B may only elect to spend $100 million and 10% of its tax base. That is up to them and you. We are not obligated to spend more because you don't want to spend a DIME educating or providing resources for your own children from the moment they are born. The rest of American society did not decide to have your child, you did. You can stop spending so much on your vacation funds and instead allocate that to daycare like sane human beings. The entitlement is unreal.

You shut up, fool. We aren’t obligated to educate anyone ever but we do because it’s in the best interest of our country. It’s the same with prek now and preschool.

I have no issues paying for what’s going to give us healthier, smarter kids. And I have all grown kids I stayed home with and paid to attend private schools so shut the f up on the “entitlement” crap.

What is wrong with you that you need to name call? You are wealthy and don't get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are very few ways to improve the childcare crisis. Young children need care and close supervision. They go to school around age 5. Until this time, you have to fork over money to pay for their care. The good news is that it’s for a short period of time.

Everyone thinks European parental leave is so great but really they are just paying women an extremely low wage to stay home with kids. The media or even Europeans talk about their “fully paid leave,” but rarely disclose that the max you can even get is $200-300 a week. Who wants to stay home for an entire year with a baby for $20k? This is a great deal if you were already planning to SAH, but it’s hardly a panacea and comical that American women are jealous of this benefit. No thanks.

You forgot the other aspect - job protection. I would have been thrilled for a year of job protection and $20k! Plus it's a long enough vacancy that they actually hire temps, which keeps coworkers from being as overwhelmed and gives entry level people more opportunities in my field. Sounds good!

I wouldn't be thrilled with the job protection. My last job was terrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Free free free. I want everything for me. I am a parent and you owe me that .

Yee haw!

You actually do owe me. We have no future without children.

Did you go to public school, PP?

DP but nope we sure don't. Posting the same question in bad faith about public school over and over again doesn't change that, unfortunately.

It’s actually on point. We, as American taxpayers, fully fund public school education from k thru 12 for the betterment of our society. Those of us comparing public school with daycare are exactly on point. Why public school and not daycare? It’s outdated thinking to say education starts at five. Learning starts at birth.

It’s a very apt comparison, PP. Even if you don’t send your kids to public school, you’re still paying for it.

K is when academics start. Birth-5 is day care. Big difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Free free free. I want everything for me. I am a parent and you owe me that .

Yee haw!

You actually do owe me. We have no future without children.

Did you go to public school, PP?

DP but nope we sure don't. Posting the same question in bad faith about public school over and over again doesn't change that, unfortunately.

It’s actually on point. We, as American taxpayers, fully fund public school education from k thru 12 for the betterment of our society. Those of us comparing public school with daycare are exactly on point. Why public school and not daycare? It’s outdated thinking to say education starts at five. Learning starts at birth.

It’s a very apt comparison, PP. Even if you don’t send your kids to public school, you’re still paying for it.

Yes, we are paying for it, and we are paying for ENOUGH. Pay for your own childcare.

That doesn’t make sense, PP, any more than “pay for your own child’s elementary school or high school”. 5 is totally arbitrary. We were able to hire a nanny and now our kids are in private school but I have no issue paying taxes for public education or accredited daycare. The country does better with educated kids.

Oh please shut up. America is built on a system of counties, small towns, and cities - all of which deploy their own education system and share out spending based on the decisions of a very local population. While County A may spend $2 billion a year and 55% of its tax base on the school system, County B may only elect to spend $100 million and 10% of its tax base. That is up to them and you. We are not obligated to spend more because you don't want to spend a DIME educating or providing resources for your own children from the moment they are born. The rest of American society did not decide to have your child, you did. You can stop spending so much on your vacation funds and instead allocate that to daycare like sane human beings. The entitlement is unreal.

You shut up, fool. We aren’t obligated to educate anyone ever but we do because it’s in the best interest of our country. It’s the same with prek now and preschool.

I have no issues paying for what’s going to give us healthier, smarter kids. And I have all grown kids I stayed home with and paid to attend private schools so shut the f up on the “entitlement” crap.

What is wrong with you that you need to name call? You are wealthy and don't get it.

There are low cost ‘private’ schools across this country. One of my friend lives in the Mississippi Delta where the schooling is so bad she was forced to send her kids to small privates. It’s what the parents in places like Pittsburgh or Baltimore do as well.

All that to say - just because PP paid for a basic education for their kids makes them neither discerning nor wealthy. They could just live in a really depressed community with no investment at all in the current 15 years of schooling but somehow PP wants to stretch a thin pot further and make it 18.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Free free free. I want everything for me. I am a parent and you owe me that .

Yee haw!

You actually do owe me. We have no future without children.

Did you go to public school, PP?

DP but nope we sure don't. Posting the same question in bad faith about public school over and over again doesn't change that, unfortunately.

It’s actually on point. We, as American taxpayers, fully fund public school education from k thru 12 for the betterment of our society. Those of us comparing public school with daycare are exactly on point. Why public school and not daycare? It’s outdated thinking to say education starts at five. Learning starts at birth.

It’s a very apt comparison, PP. Even if you don’t send your kids to public school, you’re still paying for it.

Yes, we are paying for it, and we are paying for ENOUGH. Pay for your own childcare.

That doesn’t make sense, PP, any more than “pay for your own child’s elementary school or high school”. 5 is totally arbitrary. We were able to hire a nanny and now our kids are in private school but I have no issue paying taxes for public education or accredited daycare. The country does better with educated kids.

Oh please shut up. America is built on a system of counties, small towns, and cities - all of which deploy their own education system and share out spending based on the decisions of a very local population. While County A may spend $2 billion a year and 55% of its tax base on the school system, County B may only elect to spend $100 million and 10% of its tax base. That is up to them and you. We are not obligated to spend more because you don't want to spend a DIME educating or providing resources for your own children from the moment they are born. The rest of American society did not decide to have your child, you did. You can stop spending so much on your vacation funds and instead allocate that to daycare like sane human beings. The entitlement is unreal.

You shut up, fool. We aren’t obligated to educate anyone ever but we do because it’s in the best interest of our country. It’s the same with prek now and preschool.

I have no issues paying for what’s going to give us healthier, smarter kids. And I have all grown kids I stayed home with and paid to attend private schools so shut the f up on the “entitlement” crap.

What is wrong with you that you need to name call? You are wealthy and don't get it.

There are low cost ‘private’ schools across this country. One of my friend lives in the Mississippi Delta where the schooling is so bad she was forced to send her kids to small privates. It’s what the parents in places like Pittsburgh or Baltimore do as well.

All that to say - just because PP paid for a basic education for their kids makes them neither discerning nor wealthy. They could just live in a really depressed community with no investment at all in the current 15 years of schooling but somehow PP wants to stretch a thin pot further and make it 18.

The only low cost privates in this area are religious. And, many cannot afford that.

Since you are such a perfect grandma and concerned about child care, why don't you watch the grandkids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We could start by teaching people to live within their means.

Yes! It won’t happen, but YES.

What world do you live in? Daycare teachers make minimum wage. How do you live with that in DC? This is why we can’t keep daycare caregivers.

They aren’t talking about daycare workers. They’re talking about two parent families who think living in big houses in expensive neighborhoods, with multiple vacations a year, expensive extracurriculars, eating out regularly etc are necessities, so therefore they both HAVE to work full-time from the moment of their child’s birth to fund that lifestyle, thus they HAVE to pay for childcare, and then complain about the cost.

This. People don't want to live within their means. They want million dollar homes, European vacations every year and a massive SUV in the garage AND the government to subsidize their daycare expenses.