Waitlisted at TJ - now what?

[Anonymous]

^That's even worse than I imagined. GPA is very devalued, considering that the lowest possible point total is 3.5 * 75 = 262.5, while the highest is only 300. If the essays were roughly equal, this means that a 3.5 GPA kid, potentially in only 3 honors classes + Algebra I with any experience factor would have a higher score than a 4.0 AAP kid taking Algebra II or pre-Calc without experience factors. Any of an IEP, ELL status, or being at an underrepresented school is valued at 1.2 times the entire span from a 3.5 to a 4.0 GPA. Kids get 2.4 times the entire span of points from a 3.5 to a 4.0 GPA for being economically disadvantaged.

I wonder if the point cutoff for Carson or Longfellow was higher than 900, meaning that at least some experience factor was necessary to get picked.

[Anonymous]

14:05 PP here. I knew that GPA was 300 points, but I assumed it was scaled such that the range from 3.5-4.0 was from 0-300. It's absurd for the point range to only be from 262.5-300.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:14:05 PP here. I knew that GPA was 300 points, but I assumed it was scaled such that the range from 3.5-4.0 was from 0-300. It's absurd for the point range to only be from 262.5-300.

And now you understand the outrage over the activist School Board + Dr. Brabrand’s modification of the admissions policy.

Vote out every single member of the current school board in 2023.

[Anonymous]

Knowing what I know I know now about free meals, absolutely considering asking the TJ admissions office to change our answer to Yes for both questions and see if it helps DC on the waitlist. We don’t quite make the income cut off, but are within $12,000 for reduced price meals. I’m sure plenty of families lied

What a terrible system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:14:05 PP here. I knew that GPA was 300 points, but I assumed it was scaled such that the range from 3.5-4.0 was from 0-300. It's absurd for the point range to only be from 262.5-300.

If it's scaled from 0-300 for GPA 3.5-4.0, then it is very unfair for Algebra II HN students. A lot of them struggled in the first quarter.
This admission system penalizes students who are intelligent and hard working. It's very sad.
TJ is not the only school suffering this. There are also other schools had the same tragedy. This is a terrible trend. It will make this country less competitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:14:05 PP here. I knew that GPA was 300 points, but I assumed it was scaled such that the range from 3.5-4.0 was from 0-300. It's absurd for the point range to only be from 262.5-300.

If it's scaled from 0-300 for GPA 3.5-4.0, then it is very unfair for Algebra II HN students. A lot of them struggled in the first quarter.
This admission system penalizes students who are intelligent and hard working. It's very sad.
TJ is not the only school suffering this. There are also other schools had the same tragedy. This is a terrible trend. It will make this country less competitive.

In November, ask yourself: “which party alone is consistently pushing these policies that lower the academic bar and weaken our schools? (it is always the Democrats doing this).

Don’t vote for democrats !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:14:05 PP here. I knew that GPA was 300 points, but I assumed it was scaled such that the range from 3.5-4.0 was from 0-300. It's absurd for the point range to only be from 262.5-300.

If it's scaled from 0-300 for GPA 3.5-4.0, then it is very unfair for Algebra II HN students. A lot of them struggled in the first quarter.
This admission system penalizes students who are intelligent and hard working. It's very sad.
TJ is not the only school suffering this. There are also other schools had the same tragedy. This is a terrible trend. It will make this country less competitive.

In November, ask yourself: “which party alone is consistently pushing these policies that lower the academic bar and weaken our schools? (it is always the Democrats doing this).

Don’t vote for democrats !

I support Republican. Dem is weakening this country. The only thing I disagree with Rep is the extreme white supremacy, which is dangerous. I hope Rep could find a person with better political intelligence than Trump on dealing with this issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how top performers on AMC8, AMC10, MathCounts did in admissions?

Do they use that as an admission criteria?

No, they do not.

Here is their admissions “formula” , which they kept secret until the lawsuit forced educators to share it with parents:

https://defendinged.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Exhibit-B-PLF-Memo-Master-122-PLF-Memo-ISO-MSJ-with-unredacted-and-unsealed-exhibits-12.22.21-copy-2.pdf

1/4 of TJ admissions is based on actual math talent. 1/4 is based on GPA and 50% of the application is based on non academic criteria

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:14:05 PP here. I knew that GPA was 300 points, but I assumed it was scaled such that the range from 3.5-4.0 was from 0-300. It's absurd for the point range to only be from 262.5-300.

If it's scaled from 0-300 for GPA 3.5-4.0, then it is very unfair for Algebra II HN students. A lot of them struggled in the first quarter.
This admission system penalizes students who are intelligent and hard working. It's very sad.
TJ is not the only school suffering this. There are also other schools had the same tragedy. This is a terrible trend. It will make this country less competitive.

In November, ask yourself: “which party alone is consistently pushing these policies that lower the academic bar and weaken our schools? (it is always the Democrats doing this).

Don’t vote for democrats !

I would like to vote on that issue. But Rs can't clear the first hurdle for me re: 1) gun control support and 2) reproductive rights support. So I can't get to any other priorities since they fail on the most essential pieces.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:14:05 PP here. I knew that GPA was 300 points, but I assumed it was scaled such that the range from 3.5-4.0 was from 0-300. It's absurd for the point range to only be from 262.5-300.

If it's scaled from 0-300 for GPA 3.5-4.0, then it is very unfair for Algebra II HN students. A lot of them struggled in the first quarter.
This admission system penalizes students who are intelligent and hard working. It's very sad.
TJ is not the only school suffering this. There are also other schools had the same tragedy. This is a terrible trend. It will make this country less competitive.

In November, ask yourself: “which party alone is consistently pushing these policies that lower the academic bar and weaken our schools? (it is always the Democrats doing this).

Don’t vote for democrats !

I would like to vote on that issue. But Rs can't clear the first hurdle for me re: 1) gun control support and 2) reproductive rights support. So I can't get to any other priorities since they fail on the most essential pieces.

R's are for loosening access to assault rifles among other things. I think their agenda is even worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:14:05 PP here. I knew that GPA was 300 points, but I assumed it was scaled such that the range from 3.5-4.0 was from 0-300. It's absurd for the point range to only be from 262.5-300.

If it's scaled from 0-300 for GPA 3.5-4.0, then it is very unfair for Algebra II HN students. A lot of them struggled in the first quarter.
This admission system penalizes students who are intelligent and hard working. It's very sad.
TJ is not the only school suffering this. There are also other schools had the same tragedy. This is a terrible trend. It will make this country less competitive.

In November, ask yourself: “which party alone is consistently pushing these policies that lower the academic bar and weaken our schools? (it is always the Democrats doing this).

Don’t vote for democrats !

I would like to vote on that issue. But Rs can't clear the first hurdle for me re: 1) gun control support and 2) reproductive rights support. So I can't get to any other priorities since they fail on the most essential pieces.

R's are for loosening access to assault rifles among other things. I think their agenda is even worse.

They aren't even really against admission reform they only see it as an opportunity to score with more single issue voters just like their pro-gun and pro-life groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:14:05 PP here. I knew that GPA was 300 points, but I assumed it was scaled such that the range from 3.5-4.0 was from 0-300. It's absurd for the point range to only be from 262.5-300.

If it's scaled from 0-300 for GPA 3.5-4.0, then it is very unfair for Algebra II HN students. A lot of them struggled in the first quarter.
This admission system penalizes students who are intelligent and hard working. It's very sad.
TJ is not the only school suffering this. There are also other schools had the same tragedy. This is a terrible trend. It will make this country less competitive.

If eighth graders in Algebra II HN struggled during first quarter, they shouldn't be in the class. This hyper-acceleration in math is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I heard they only bypassed the ones that falsely claimed to have won these contests on their essays.

What makes you think they verified these things? It would make more sense to have a separate section for accomplishments, that could be reviewed by the students' schools, as well as a separate person in admissions. Now it would fall on the essay graders, who probably just believe whatever is stated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:14:05 PP here. I knew that GPA was 300 points, but I assumed it was scaled such that the range from 3.5-4.0 was from 0-300. It's absurd for the point range to only be from 262.5-300.

If it's scaled from 0-300 for GPA 3.5-4.0, then it is very unfair for Algebra II HN students. A lot of them struggled in the first quarter.
This admission system penalizes students who are intelligent and hard working. It's very sad.
TJ is not the only school suffering this. There are also other schools had the same tragedy. This is a terrible trend. It will make this country less competitive.

In November, ask yourself: “which party alone is consistently pushing these policies that lower the academic bar and weaken our schools? (it is always the Democrats doing this).

Don’t vote for democrats !

I would like to vote on that issue. But Rs can't clear the first hurdle for me re: 1) gun control support and 2) reproductive rights support. So I can't get to any other priorities since they fail on the most essential pieces.

R's are for loosening access to assault rifles among other things. I think their agenda is even worse.

They aren't even really against admission reform they only see it as an opportunity to score with more single issue voters just like their pro-gun and pro-life groups.

Single issue advanced math got Glenn Youngkin elected. I heard radio ads on the issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:14:05 PP here. I knew that GPA was 300 points, but I assumed it was scaled such that the range from 3.5-4.0 was from 0-300. It's absurd for the point range to only be from 262.5-300.

If it's scaled from 0-300 for GPA 3.5-4.0, then it is very unfair for Algebra II HN students. A lot of them struggled in the first quarter.
This admission system penalizes students who are intelligent and hard working. It's very sad.
TJ is not the only school suffering this. There are also other schools had the same tragedy. This is a terrible trend. It will make this country less competitive.

In November, ask yourself: “which party alone is consistently pushing these policies that lower the academic bar and weaken our schools? (it is always the Democrats doing this).

Don’t vote for democrats !

I would like to vote on that issue. But Rs can't clear the first hurdle for me re: 1) gun control support and 2) reproductive rights support. So I can't get to any other priorities since they fail on the most essential pieces.

R's are for loosening access to assault rifles among other things. I think their agenda is even worse.

They aren't even really against admission reform they only see it as an opportunity to score with more single issue voters just like their pro-gun and pro-life groups.

Single issue advanced math got Glenn Youngkin elected. I heard radio ads on the issue.

They want to devalue public education entirely. I’d also love to have a sensible Rep party on issues like gun rights and choice - and, most importantly, upholding our system of democracy and free and fair elections and not supporting violent insurrections to try to prevent the peaceful transition of power - but since we don’t have that GOP at the moment, issues like the TJ admissions policy and some of the educational issues where I disagree with some of the current directions end up pretty far down the list in my voting considerations.