Make it easier to become a substitute teacher

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Anonymous wrote:I found the website and all the technology intimidating to navigate to even try to apply. There was nobody to speak to who could help me. I gave up.

If the online application was too difficult, then subbing isn’t for you.

There were literally no directions on what to do after you upload your documents.

NP here but I have to agree.
Subs are not handed anything; you have to work for this role. If you are not curious and eager enough to get through the application process, then you will not succeed at the difficult task of leading and guiding a class of students whose regular classroom teacher is out for the day.

What are you talking about? They are given sub plans. Leading and guiding a class has nothing to do with the crazy hoops you have to jump through to sub.

NP, sub plans are often anything from a post-it note to 4-page plans. Often times, not enough work is left for the time duration or the physical assignment is not on the desk or in Schoology. There are often gaps.

Bull. Not in elementary school. Teachers are required to have emergency plans written that anyone can follow. But usually, when they are out, even when sick, they take the time to write detailed sub plans. Plans can be emailed to teammates who print them out for the sub. Teachers notoriously overplan.

What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time.

Ask me know I know.

Huh. Sounds exactly like several teachers my kids have had. But nice bashing of subs.

No bashing of subs intended. But saying someone who may have trouble doing the online application for subbing could not actually be a good sub isn’t bashing? Huh.

This is what was said:
"What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time." Please stop gaslighting.

Saying someone who isn’t a teacher doesn’t have a clue about one particular facet of teaching isn’t really bashing them. I wouldn’t expect subs to know about time management since they don’t have the experience. That’s not gaslighting either. Lol.

Time management exists in all aspects of life, not just teaching.

I made it clear I was talking about being able to finish the lesson in the given period of time. That is not bashing subs. JFC.

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Anonymous wrote:I found the website and all the technology intimidating to navigate to even try to apply. There was nobody to speak to who could help me. I gave up.

If the online application was too difficult, then subbing isn’t for you.

There were literally no directions on what to do after you upload your documents.

NP here but I have to agree.
Subs are not handed anything; you have to work for this role. If you are not curious and eager enough to get through the application process, then you will not succeed at the difficult task of leading and guiding a class of students whose regular classroom teacher is out for the day.

What are you talking about? They are given sub plans. Leading and guiding a class has nothing to do with the crazy hoops you have to jump through to sub.

NP, sub plans are often anything from a post-it note to 4-page plans. Often times, not enough work is left for the time duration or the physical assignment is not on the desk or in Schoology. There are often gaps.

Bull. Not in elementary school. Teachers are required to have emergency plans written that anyone can follow. But usually, when they are out, even when sick, they take the time to write detailed sub plans. Plans can be emailed to teammates who print them out for the sub. Teachers notoriously overplan.

What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time.

Ask me know I know.

Huh. Sounds exactly like several teachers my kids have had. But nice bashing of subs.

No bashing of subs intended. But saying someone who may have trouble doing the online application for subbing could not actually be a good sub isn’t bashing? Huh.

This is what was said:
"What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time." Please stop gaslighting.

Saying someone who isn’t a teacher doesn’t have a clue about one particular facet of teaching isn’t really bashing them. I wouldn’t expect subs to know about time management since they don’t have the experience. That’s not gaslighting either. Lol.

Time management exists in all aspects of life, not just teaching.

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Some of these comments from what I presume are teachers are pretty arrogant. Who knew teachers have such a poor opinion of the people who fill in for them so they can take time off?

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Anonymous wrote:I found the website and all the technology intimidating to navigate to even try to apply. There was nobody to speak to who could help me. I gave up.

If the online application was too difficult, then subbing isn’t for you.

There were literally no directions on what to do after you upload your documents.

NP here but I have to agree.
Subs are not handed anything; you have to work for this role. If you are not curious and eager enough to get through the application process, then you will not succeed at the difficult task of leading and guiding a class of students whose regular classroom teacher is out for the day.

What are you talking about? They are given sub plans. Leading and guiding a class has nothing to do with the crazy hoops you have to jump through to sub.

NP, sub plans are often anything from a post-it note to 4-page plans. Often times, not enough work is left for the time duration or the physical assignment is not on the desk or in Schoology. There are often gaps.

Bull. Not in elementary school. Teachers are required to have emergency plans written that anyone can follow. But usually, when they are out, even when sick, they take the time to write detailed sub plans. Plans can be emailed to teammates who print them out for the sub. Teachers notoriously overplan.

What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time.

Ask me know I know.

Huh. Sounds exactly like several teachers my kids have had. But nice bashing of subs.

No bashing of subs intended. But saying someone who may have trouble doing the online application for subbing could not actually be a good sub isn’t bashing? Huh.

This is what was said:
"What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time." Please stop gaslighting.

Saying someone who isn’t a teacher doesn’t have a clue about one particular facet of teaching isn’t really bashing them. I wouldn’t expect subs to know about time management since they don’t have the experience. That’s not gaslighting either. Lol.

Time management exists in all aspects of life, not just teaching.

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Some of these comments from what I presume are teachers are pretty arrogant. Who knew teachers have such a poor opinion of the people who fill in for them so they can take time off?

Please take your faux outrage and hurt feelings elsewhere. It’s very clear what PP meant.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Yeah, lower the bar for who is around kids. Great idea Marge.

Np here. It’s not lowering the bar, it’s mKing the requirements more realistic. I’m sure op is not the only person with a part-time job who’d be open to subbing on occasion but would not be comfortable getting a reference from their current employer. Non-employer references should be enough, especially with approval from a school principal. Why do they need a transcript from college? I’ve never had to provide that for a job. They should run a background check which would confirm that the person graduated from the college they say they graduated from. Op is right, if they really want subs they should have a more reasonable application process.

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Anonymous wrote:I found the website and all the technology intimidating to navigate to even try to apply. There was nobody to speak to who could help me. I gave up.

If the online application was too difficult, then subbing isn’t for you.

There were literally no directions on what to do after you upload your documents.

NP here but I have to agree.
Subs are not handed anything; you have to work for this role. If you are not curious and eager enough to get through the application process, then you will not succeed at the difficult task of leading and guiding a class of students whose regular classroom teacher is out for the day.

What are you talking about? They are given sub plans. Leading and guiding a class has nothing to do with the crazy hoops you have to jump through to sub.

NP, sub plans are often anything from a post-it note to 4-page plans. Often times, not enough work is left for the time duration or the physical assignment is not on the desk or in Schoology. There are often gaps.

Bull. Not in elementary school. Teachers are required to have emergency plans written that anyone can follow. But usually, when they are out, even when sick, they take the time to write detailed sub plans. Plans can be emailed to teammates who print them out for the sub. Teachers notoriously overplan.

What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time.

Ask me know I know.

Huh. Sounds exactly like several teachers my kids have had. But nice bashing of subs.

No bashing of subs intended. But saying someone who may have trouble doing the online application for subbing could not actually be a good sub isn’t bashing? Huh.

This is what was said:
"What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time." Please stop gaslighting.

Saying someone who isn’t a teacher doesn’t have a clue about one particular facet of teaching isn’t really bashing them. I wouldn’t expect subs to know about time management since they don’t have the experience. That’s not gaslighting either. Lol.

Time management exists in all aspects of life, not just teaching.

I made it clear I was talking about being able to finish the lesson in the given period of time. That is not bashing subs. JFC.

Just refresh your memory, “What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management.”

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Anonymous wrote:I found the website and all the technology intimidating to navigate to even try to apply. There was nobody to speak to who could help me. I gave up.

If the online application was too difficult, then subbing isn’t for you.

There were literally no directions on what to do after you upload your documents.

NP here but I have to agree.
Subs are not handed anything; you have to work for this role. If you are not curious and eager enough to get through the application process, then you will not succeed at the difficult task of leading and guiding a class of students whose regular classroom teacher is out for the day.

What are you talking about? They are given sub plans. Leading and guiding a class has nothing to do with the crazy hoops you have to jump through to sub.

NP, sub plans are often anything from a post-it note to 4-page plans. Often times, not enough work is left for the time duration or the physical assignment is not on the desk or in Schoology. There are often gaps.

Bull. Not in elementary school. Teachers are required to have emergency plans written that anyone can follow. But usually, when they are out, even when sick, they take the time to write detailed sub plans. Plans can be emailed to teammates who print them out for the sub. Teachers notoriously overplan.

What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time.

Ask me know I know.

Huh. Sounds exactly like several teachers my kids have had. But nice bashing of subs.

No bashing of subs intended. But saying someone who may have trouble doing the online application for subbing could not actually be a good sub isn’t bashing? Huh.

This is what was said:
"What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time." Please stop gaslighting.

Saying someone who isn’t a teacher doesn’t have a clue about one particular facet of teaching isn’t really bashing them. I wouldn’t expect subs to know about time management since they don’t have the experience. That’s not gaslighting either. Lol.

Time management exists in all aspects of life, not just teaching.

I made it clear I was talking about being able to finish the lesson in the given period of time. That is not bashing subs. JFC.

Just refresh your memory, “What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management.”

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It was a rude comment which demeans subs. But I love the gaslighting, pretending otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:I found the website and all the technology intimidating to navigate to even try to apply. There was nobody to speak to who could help me. I gave up.

If the online application was too difficult, then subbing isn’t for you.

There were literally no directions on what to do after you upload your documents.

NP here but I have to agree.
Subs are not handed anything; you have to work for this role. If you are not curious and eager enough to get through the application process, then you will not succeed at the difficult task of leading and guiding a class of students whose regular classroom teacher is out for the day.

What are you talking about? They are given sub plans. Leading and guiding a class has nothing to do with the crazy hoops you have to jump through to sub.

NP, sub plans are often anything from a post-it note to 4-page plans. Often times, not enough work is left for the time duration or the physical assignment is not on the desk or in Schoology. There are often gaps.

Bull. Not in elementary school. Teachers are required to have emergency plans written that anyone can follow. But usually, when they are out, even when sick, they take the time to write detailed sub plans. Plans can be emailed to teammates who print them out for the sub. Teachers notoriously overplan.

What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time.

Ask me know I know.

Huh. Sounds exactly like several teachers my kids have had. But nice bashing of subs.

No bashing of subs intended. But saying someone who may have trouble doing the online application for subbing could not actually be a good sub isn’t bashing? Huh.

This is what was said:
"What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time." Please stop gaslighting.

Saying someone who isn’t a teacher doesn’t have a clue about one particular facet of teaching isn’t really bashing them. I wouldn’t expect subs to know about time management since they don’t have the experience. That’s not gaslighting either. Lol.

Time management exists in all aspects of life, not just teaching.

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Some of these comments from what I presume are teachers are pretty arrogant. Who knew teachers have such a poor opinion of the people who fill in for them so they can take time off?

Please take your faux outrage and hurt feelings elsewhere. It’s very clear what PP meant.

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Anonymous wrote:I found the website and all the technology intimidating to navigate to even try to apply. There was nobody to speak to who could help me. I gave up.

If the online application was too difficult, then subbing isn’t for you.

There were literally no directions on what to do after you upload your documents.

NP here but I have to agree.
Subs are not handed anything; you have to work for this role. If you are not curious and eager enough to get through the application process, then you will not succeed at the difficult task of leading and guiding a class of students whose regular classroom teacher is out for the day.

What are you talking about? They are given sub plans. Leading and guiding a class has nothing to do with the crazy hoops you have to jump through to sub.

NP, sub plans are often anything from a post-it note to 4-page plans. Often times, not enough work is left for the time duration or the physical assignment is not on the desk or in Schoology. There are often gaps.

Bull. Not in elementary school. Teachers are required to have emergency plans written that anyone can follow. But usually, when they are out, even when sick, they take the time to write detailed sub plans. Plans can be emailed to teammates who print them out for the sub. Teachers notoriously overplan.

What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time.

Ask me know I know.

Huh. Sounds exactly like several teachers my kids have had. But nice bashing of subs.

No bashing of subs intended. But saying someone who may have trouble doing the online application for subbing could not actually be a good sub isn’t bashing? Huh.

This is what was said:
"What usually happens is the sub has no clue about time management and actually can’t finish the lesson in the designated time." Please stop gaslighting.

Saying someone who isn’t a teacher doesn’t have a clue about one particular facet of teaching isn’t really bashing them. I wouldn’t expect subs to know about time management since they don’t have the experience. That’s not gaslighting either. Lol.

Time management exists in all aspects of life, not just teaching.

+1
Some of these comments from what I presume are teachers are pretty arrogant. Who knew teachers have such a poor opinion of the people who fill in for them so they can take time off?

Please take your faux outrage and hurt feelings elsewhere. It’s very clear what PP meant.

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I know of a parent who used volunteer recommendations to get her the job. She got it easily, had no experience, was also a PTA chair, and would spend her off time gossiping around the school about people. I don't think OP really tried. I think if she put a little creativity into it, she would have gotten a job easily. People complain about the pay more than the standards. Spend more time on this and give more ways to get recommendations letters, do a thorough background check, have subs sign code of conduct and all should be fine.

[Anonymous]

Getting a transcript is easy. You just call the school and pay a small fee for a copy. If you don't need a work reference, this should be a bare minimum for subbing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last year, my daughter's principal asked me to help her out by becoming a sub. I had just started a job that was pretty flexible and I was happy to help out as long as it meant keeping the school open. Before I started my job, I was a stay at home parent for years.

When I went to do the application, it required 2 recommendations - one from a current employer. Though my job was flexible, I definitely didn't feel comfortable asking my new boss to write a recommendation so I could substitute teach. And as a stay at home parent for the past 8 years, I didn't have a previous employer. As a result, I didn't apply.

The application also required transcripts from my universities - I have them but most stay at home parents don't - and it can be expensive to collect them - something like 1/2 day's work substitute teaching.

FCPS needs to temporarily make it easier for parents to substitute teach. There are a lot of parents willing to help out the schools but FCPS has not made it easy. Instead of doing everything they can to keep schools open, they are defaulting to closing schools. In the midst of an historic pandemic, it's still business as usual.

Sub here. The bar is already pretty low. How did you get your current job without reccomendations?