Make it easier to become a substitute teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people are insane. You would give this person a job with students because her post makes her seem “high quality”? It’s clear none of you have ever actually worked in a school.

I do work in a school. I am a high school teacher. I would prefer her as a substitute teacher to someone who is mean-spirited, discouraging, and thinks a snarky allusion to “The Simpsons” is funny. She seems like am articulate woman with a sincere and generous desire to help overburdened and short-staffed schools. That should merit an interview, at the very least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people are insane. You would give this person a job with students because her post makes her seem “high quality”? It’s clear none of you have ever actually worked in a school.

If you lower the criteria, you WILL let in a lot of undesireables. FCPS is responsible for the safety of students. Teaching (and subbing) require transcripts. Teachers supply them all the time. It’s not an abnormal request. The process weeds out those that don’t really want it. I know plenty of college kids and SAHMs that are subs, somehow it worked for them.

Requiring a recommendation letter doesn't mean you won't get undesirables. For someone with dodgy intentions, it would be easy to falsify. But it does mean that qualified subs won't apply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people are insane. You would give this person a job with students because her post makes her seem “high quality”? It’s clear none of you have ever actually worked in a school.

If you lower the criteria, you WILL let in a lot of undesireables. FCPS is responsible for the safety of students. Teaching (and subbing) require transcripts. Teachers supply them all the time. It’s not an abnormal request. The process weeds out those that don’t really want it. I know plenty of college kids and SAHMs that are subs, somehow it worked for them.

She’s a parent and a member of the FCPS community! How is that undesirable?

[Anonymous]

Agree that lowering the requirements should be easier.

In my case, I was not comfortable with a reference from a current employer, for obvious reasons.

However, I had glowing recs from a volunteer organization (elementary kids focused) and that should be sufficient. It's actually more relevant than my paid current job. But I was initially rejected for not providing the right kinds of recs.

It was totally stupid. HR just doesn't want to do the legwork to actually hire good subs who are a little outside the paradigm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people are insane. You would give this person a job with students because her post makes her seem “high quality”? It’s clear none of you have ever actually worked in a school.

If you lower the criteria, you WILL let in a lot of undesireables. FCPS is responsible for the safety of students. Teaching (and subbing) require transcripts. Teachers supply them all the time. It’s not an abnormal request. The process weeds out those that don’t really want it. I know plenty of college kids and SAHMs that are subs, somehow it worked for them.

She’s a parent and a member of the FCPS community! How is that undesirable?

LOL, based on DCUM posters? I can think of a lot of reasons. 😊

[Anonymous]

Really, really bad idea, OP.

Subbing is a thankless and really stressful job (I was a sub) and beyond wanting to make sure you're not a pedophile (which exist even among parents), the district needs to have some baseline idea that you can keep it together and behave appropriately and can handle the care of 30 students, many of whom are not going to be behaving the way you were told they should be behaving.

For CYA purposes if nothing else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really, really bad idea, OP.

Subbing is a thankless and really stressful job (I was a sub) and beyond wanting to make sure you're not a pedophile (which exist even among parents), the district needs to have some baseline idea that you can keep it together and behave appropriately and can handle the care of 30 students, many of whom are not going to be behaving the way you were told they should be behaving.

For CYA purposes if nothing else.

Can you please explain to me how a recommendation letter will provide you that assurance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really, really bad idea, OP.

Subbing is a thankless and really stressful job (I was a sub) and beyond wanting to make sure you're not a pedophile (which exist even among parents), the district needs to have some baseline idea that you can keep it together and behave appropriately and can handle the care of 30 students, many of whom are not going to be behaving the way you were told they should be behaving.

For CYA purposes if nothing else.

Can you please explain to me how a recommendation letter will provide you that assurance?

The OP gave up during the application process after seeing the criteria, that’s a clue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really, really bad idea, OP.

Subbing is a thankless and really stressful job (I was a sub) and beyond wanting to make sure you're not a pedophile (which exist even among parents), the district needs to have some baseline idea that you can keep it together and behave appropriately and can handle the care of 30 students, many of whom are not going to be behaving the way you were told they should be behaving.

For CYA purposes if nothing else.

Who ARE you? You may have been a temporary sub, but you are NOT currently a teacher. I am appalled by how many of these posts are so discouraging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really, really bad idea, OP.

Subbing is a thankless and really stressful job (I was a sub) and beyond wanting to make sure you're not a pedophile (which exist even among parents), the district needs to have some baseline idea that you can keep it together and behave appropriately and can handle the care of 30 students, many of whom are not going to be behaving the way you were told they should be behaving.

For CYA purposes if nothing else.

Can you please explain to me how a recommendation letter will provide you that assurance?

The OP gave up during the application process after seeing the criteria, that’s a clue.

You are a mean, bitter person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really, really bad idea, OP.

Subbing is a thankless and really stressful job (I was a sub) and beyond wanting to make sure you're not a pedophile (which exist even among parents), the district needs to have some baseline idea that you can keep it together and behave appropriately and can handle the care of 30 students, many of whom are not going to be behaving the way you were told they should be behaving.

For CYA purposes if nothing else.

Can you please explain to me how a recommendation letter will provide you that assurance?

The OP gave up during the application process after seeing the criteria, that’s a clue.

Schools need subs more than well-educated SAHMs need jobs. I’d rather have a fellow parent working as a sub in my child’s class than some random person who simply navigated the bureaucracy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really, really bad idea, OP.

Subbing is a thankless and really stressful job (I was a sub) and beyond wanting to make sure you're not a pedophile (which exist even among parents), the district needs to have some baseline idea that you can keep it together and behave appropriately and can handle the care of 30 students, many of whom are not going to be behaving the way you were told they should be behaving.

For CYA purposes if nothing else.

Who ARE you? You may have been a temporary sub, but you are NOT currently a teacher. I am appalled by how many of these posts are so discouraging.

Subbing is horrible. Why do you think there is a shortage? It’s not a great job or not great pay. Students do not behave the same way for subs as they do for their teacher. They know the sub is there for 1 day, has little power, and probably won’t involve the principal or parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really, really bad idea, OP.

Subbing is a thankless and really stressful job (I was a sub) and beyond wanting to make sure you're not a pedophile (which exist even among parents), the district needs to have some baseline idea that you can keep it together and behave appropriately and can handle the care of 30 students, many of whom are not going to be behaving the way you were told they should be behaving.

For CYA purposes if nothing else.

Can you please explain to me how a recommendation letter will provide you that assurance?

The OP gave up during the application process after seeing the criteria, that’s a clue.

Schools need subs more than well-educated SAHMs need jobs. I’d rather have a fellow parent working as a sub in my child’s class than some random person who simply navigated the bureaucracy.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really, really bad idea, OP.

Subbing is a thankless and really stressful job (I was a sub) and beyond wanting to make sure you're not a pedophile (which exist even among parents), the district needs to have some baseline idea that you can keep it together and behave appropriately and can handle the care of 30 students, many of whom are not going to be behaving the way you were told they should be behaving.

For CYA purposes if nothing else.

Can you please explain to me how a recommendation letter will provide you that assurance?

The OP gave up during the application process after seeing the criteria, that’s a clue.

Schools need subs more than well-educated SAHMs need jobs. I’d rather have a fellow parent working as a sub in my child’s class than some random person who simply navigated the bureaucracy.

Literally nobody cares what you would rather have. Parents thinking they have the expertise to run schools is laughable.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We don’t only suffer from a quantity of subs, but also a severe quality number of them. The process is slow, but criteria is fine. We need more than a warm body.

We can't even get a warm body these days!

-a teacher