Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

Anonymous
So, MN was cooperating with ICE per Walz's statement. That blows the top of MAGA's lies.

Of course, our DCUM MAGA will ignore it and talk about Pretti being in the street for a hot second, rather than his heroism.
Anonymous
For people bleating about sanctuary cities...note from Walz's call, Minnesota prison officials already work with ICE to run over undocumented inmates.

So again, why is ICE in the state with such numbers other than to terrorize the populace?
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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.


Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.


I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?


Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.


Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”


Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...


I'm not sure why this is confusing for you. He was allowed to carry a gun. Perhaps he thought violence would break out and he could be the "good guy with a gun" that we're always hearing about. Or he simply carries one for self defense. By your logic anyone who carries a gun is looking to murder people?? You don't realize how ridiculous you sound?


He WAS the good guy with the gun.

(Which disproves the theory that they can stop the bad guys with a gun)


You can stop a common robbery or assault with a good guy with gun. This was 10 against 1 person. This idea of beating government tyranny with it is a fantasy. They have endless money.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


How TF was he resisting arrest? He was peppersprayed at point blank range. They could have walked away at that point.

Let me repeat, THEY COULD HAVE WALKED AWAY AT THAT POINT.

People kill. Not guns.


So now that’s flipped too? I thought we needed gun control because it was the guns that killed people. Liberals are now arguing for the 2nd amendment, blaming people not guns, and white lives matter. What a wild time.


I'm a liberal and I've always supported the 2nd Amendment. What I don't support is the 2nd Amendment without any limits. I'm not sure why this is a difficult concept for conservatives to grasp.


Right?
It’s like MAGA is gobsmacked to find out that the FOX drivel about libs taking away their guns en masse is a load of crap.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


How TF was he resisting arrest? He was peppersprayed at point blank range. They could have walked away at that point.

Let me repeat, THEY COULD HAVE WALKED AWAY AT THAT POINT.

People kill. Not guns.


So now that’s flipped too? I thought we needed gun control because it was the guns that killed people. Liberals are now arguing for the 2nd amendment, blaming people not guns, and white lives matter. What a wild time.


I'm a liberal and I've always supported the 2nd Amendment. What I don't support is the 2nd Amendment without any limits. I'm not sure why this is a difficult concept for conservatives to grasp.


Right?
It’s like MAGA is gobsmacked to find out that the FOX drivel about libs taking away their guns en masse is a load of crap.


Yup! Steven Miller is coming for their guns.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


How TF was he resisting arrest? He was peppersprayed at point blank range. They could have walked away at that point.

Let me repeat, THEY COULD HAVE WALKED AWAY AT THAT POINT.

People kill. Not guns.


So now that’s flipped too? I thought we needed gun control because it was the guns that killed people. Liberals are now arguing for the 2nd amendment, blaming people not guns, and white lives matter. What a wild time.


I'm a liberal and I've always supported the 2nd Amendment. What I don't support is the 2nd Amendment without any limits. I'm not sure why this is a difficult concept for conservatives to grasp.


Right?
It’s like MAGA is gobsmacked to find out that the FOX drivel about libs taking away their guns en masse is a load of crap.


DP. I don’t think the 2A folks even care that much about guns. It’s only about pissing off or scaring the libs. That’s literally the only principle they got.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


How TF was he resisting arrest? He was peppersprayed at point blank range. They could have walked away at that point.

Let me repeat, THEY COULD HAVE WALKED AWAY AT THAT POINT.

People kill. Not guns.


So now that’s flipped too? I thought we needed gun control because it was the guns that killed people. Liberals are now arguing for the 2nd amendment, blaming people not guns, and white lives matter. What a wild time.


I'm a liberal and I've always supported the 2nd Amendment. What I don't support is the 2nd Amendment without any limits. I'm not sure why this is a difficult concept for conservatives to grasp.


Right?
It’s like MAGA is gobsmacked to find out that the FOX drivel about libs taking away their guns en masse is a load of crap.


The 2028 dem pivot is going to be that they are the party of constitutional rights.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.


Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.


I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?


Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.


Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”


Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...


I'm not sure why this is confusing for you. He was allowed to carry a gun. Perhaps he thought violence would break out and he could be the "good guy with a gun" that we're always hearing about. Or he simply carries one for self defense. By your logic anyone who carries a gun is looking to murder people?? You don't realize how ridiculous you sound?


He WAS the good guy with the gun.

(Which disproves the theory that they can stop the bad guys with a gun)


Liberals are actually winning big here with gun control talking points. Guy probably would be alive today if he hadn't had a gun.


He’s also be alive if he wasn’t murdered when he wasn’t even in possession of this firearm.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


How TF was he resisting arrest? He was peppersprayed at point blank range. They could have walked away at that point.

Let me repeat, THEY COULD HAVE WALKED AWAY AT THAT POINT.

People kill. Not guns.


So now that’s flipped too? I thought we needed gun control because it was the guns that killed people. Liberals are now arguing for the 2nd amendment, blaming people not guns, and white lives matter. What a wild time.


I'm a liberal and I've always supported the 2nd Amendment. What I don't support is the 2nd Amendment without any limits. I'm not sure why this is a difficult concept for conservatives to grasp.


Right?
It’s like MAGA is gobsmacked to find out that the FOX drivel about libs taking away their guns en masse is a load of crap.


The 2028 dem pivot is going to be that they are the party of constitutional rights.


Surprise, we always have been.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


How TF was he resisting arrest? He was peppersprayed at point blank range. They could have walked away at that point.

Let me repeat, THEY COULD HAVE WALKED AWAY AT THAT POINT.

People kill. Not guns.


So now that’s flipped too? I thought we needed gun control because it was the guns that killed people. Liberals are now arguing for the 2nd amendment, blaming people not guns, and white lives matter. What a wild time.


I'm a liberal and I've always supported the 2nd Amendment. What I don't support is the 2nd Amendment without any limits. I'm not sure why this is a difficult concept for conservatives to grasp.


Right?
It’s like MAGA is gobsmacked to find out that the FOX drivel about libs taking away their guns en masse is a load of crap.


DP. I don’t think the 2A folks even care that much about guns. It’s only about pissing off or scaring the libs. That’s literally the only principle they got.


Except now they have discovered that libs carry guns too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.


Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.


I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?


Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.


Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”


Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...


I'm not sure why this is confusing for you. He was allowed to carry a gun. Perhaps he thought violence would break out and he could be the "good guy with a gun" that we're always hearing about. Or he simply carries one for self defense. By your logic anyone who carries a gun is looking to murder people?? You don't realize how ridiculous you sound?


He WAS the good guy with the gun.

(Which disproves the theory that they can stop the bad guys with a gun)


Liberals are actually winning big here with gun control talking points. Guy probably would be alive today if he hadn't had a gun.


He’s also be alive if he wasn’t murdered when he wasn’t even in possession of this firearm.


Can you think of any other ways he might still be alive? I can
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.


Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.


I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?


Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.


Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”


Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...


I'm not sure why this is confusing for you. He was allowed to carry a gun. Perhaps he thought violence would break out and he could be the "good guy with a gun" that we're always hearing about. Or he simply carries one for self defense. By your logic anyone who carries a gun is looking to murder people?? You don't realize how ridiculous you sound?


He WAS the good guy with the gun.

(Which disproves the theory that they can stop the bad guys with a gun)


Liberals are actually winning big here with gun control talking points. Guy probably would be alive today if he hadn't had a gun.


He would be alive if ICE officers had better training and weren’t promised total immunity. Real law-enforcement officers come in to contact with people with guns every day and most manage to survive and handle the situation appropriately and professionally.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


How TF was he resisting arrest? He was peppersprayed at point blank range. They could have walked away at that point.

Let me repeat, THEY COULD HAVE WALKED AWAY AT THAT POINT.

People kill. Not guns.


So now that’s flipped too? I thought we needed gun control because it was the guns that killed people. Liberals are now arguing for the 2nd amendment, blaming people not guns, and white lives matter. What a wild time.


I'm a liberal and I've always supported the 2nd Amendment. What I don't support is the 2nd Amendment without any limits. I'm not sure why this is a difficult concept for conservatives to grasp.


Right?
It’s like MAGA is gobsmacked to find out that the FOX drivel about libs taking away their guns en masse is a load of crap.


The 2028 dem pivot is going to be that they are the party of constitutional rights.


Surprise, we always have been.


I mean yes, but it will be made into being a focal point of the election. Who protects your rights more?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.


But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.


Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.


Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.


I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?


Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.


Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”


Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...


I'm not sure why this is confusing for you. He was allowed to carry a gun. Perhaps he thought violence would break out and he could be the "good guy with a gun" that we're always hearing about. Or he simply carries one for self defense. By your logic anyone who carries a gun is looking to murder people?? You don't realize how ridiculous you sound?


He WAS the good guy with the gun.

(Which disproves the theory that they can stop the bad guys with a gun)


Liberals are actually winning big here with gun control talking points. Guy probably would be alive today if he hadn't had a gun.


He’s also be alive if he wasn’t murdered when he wasn’t even in possession of this firearm.


Can you think of any other ways he might still be alive? I can


I can say the same about Charlie Kirk.

Difference is, this ICU nurse was a hero throughout his life.
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