Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

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Anonymous wrote:At the ANC 3/4G candidate forum, the commissioners describe the bike lanes as a done deal. There wasn't a lot of room for the candidates to distinguish themselves on this issue, and in fact, none of them came out abjectly against them.

Two of the candidates were painfully non-committal, retreating to the 'we need to improve engagement' argument.

So they were embarrassed that this was caught out before they broke ground and think it's just a pr problem.

Let us all remember the names of the people responsible for our impending traffic nightmare. DDOT came up with the plan but those ANC commissioners are the ones that own it.

You are missing the point. The decision has been made. The bike lanes are going in. There are no options for reversing the decision.

If you want to hold anyone accountable, it is the Mayor. So if you want to vote against her, she will only get 80% of the vote instead of 81%.

Nope. I blame the ANC commissioners in our neighborhood. It is they who deserve our ire. It is they who should have known better. It is they who need to accept that their own responsibility will last and that people will not forget.

Actually, you are responsible. You and anyone else who failed to keep up with local community development initiatives. Failed to attend meetings and voice your concerns. Failed to answer surveys. If all these folks on these 120 pages had gotten off their couches and participated in democracy, this may have turned out differently. Go ahead and complain but don’t say you never had your chance. You blew it. It’s on you.

People have lives. Also, the D.C. government tries to sneak things like this by the public because they know people will hate it and kill it. You're dreaming if you think this project is actually going to happen.

"People have lives." You are completely off your rocker. Many ANC reps hold down busy jobs and have families and yet still find time to not only participate in the meetings but organize and lead them. The "D.C. government" held multiple virtual public meetings to present their plans and receive feedback from the community. The plans have been revised on account of that feedback. The local community not only likes this plan, but has endorsed it. Please get over it and stop insulting the rest of us by posting such bovine excreta.

The local community clearly does not like this plan. The amount of messages on the listserv and posts on this thread are quite telling.

I live on Connecticut Avenue. I am the local community. I like this plan. Just because you don't., please don't speak for the rest of us.

The ANC Commissioners up and down the Avenue LISTENED to their constituents and voted for a plan the majority of their constituents support. Why is this so hard to believe? Get out of your single family home bubble.

Please stop with the “single family home” nonsense. You’re sowing divisiveness for no reason. There is nothing wrong with living in a single family home and there’s nothing wrong with living in a multi-unit dwelling. There are people in both who support Concept C and people in both who oppose it or have serious concerns that they want to make sure are addressed. Stop stereotyping.

The claim that “the majority” of constituents support Concept C is not valid as it has never been placed on a ballot. It may be true that it’s supported by the majority of people who went to the meetings, but that’s not evidence of a majority of constituents.

In our political system, each action by the government doesn't get put to a popular vote. The way the majority can register their approval or disapproval is by voting. And all the ANC members and mayor were duly elected. SO.

Stiop pretending that ANCs are more than they are. ANC commissioners are not legislators.

Great, but the D.C. Council isn't against these bike lanes, either.

The expression of the council is through the budget. They have not yet approved the funds for this bike lane. Maybe they still will. Maybe they will consider it too expensive for now with other priorities more pressing.

The council has been, with the exception of Trayon White, in support of multi-modal transportation enhancements like bike lanes. Everyone understands how important Connecticut Avenue is to the city wide network.

Back to the dog whistles and euphemisms.

Being in favor of bike lanes does not equal being in favor of permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue
Being against permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue does not equal being against bike lanes or being anti-semitic.

It does not appear that propoenents are aware of how important Connecticut Avenue is to the regional transportation network.

They are well aware. They just think this will prompt everyone to discover a love for biking.

They assume that half of the traffic from constraining Connecticut Ave will be diverted onto bicycles. What a fantasy. Far more likely that the traffic gets diverted to Reno-34th St and Wisconsin Ave, with lots of frustrated drivers toggling back and forth on side streets between them and Connecticut on a Waze-craze to find the fastest route. Remember DDOT’s cluster-f fiasco in Glover Park 8 or 10 years ago, which they had to rip out. Connecticut will be that on steroids but far more difficult and costly to undo once the impact are felt.

stop.lying. that is not the DDOT projection.

oh and the glover park project was scuttled due to the influence of the notoriously ethical CM Evans.

I’ve spent time this week in Glover Park, Cleveland Park, and Capitol Hill. Once the bike lanes are installed on Ct Ave people are going to be clamoring for them on Wisc Ave.

Evans had his issues but he listened to his constituents and they were apoplectic about the DDOT fiasco on Wisconsin Ave. Fortunately all they had to do was tear out some plastic pylons and repaint the road. Connecticut will be much harder to undo. Maybe that’s why DDOT and the bike lobby are trying to rush it through before more people fully understand it and oppose it?

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Evans had a vested interest given his twice daily commute to Maret. The problem with that plan was not the plan, but that the city was redoing 37th Street at the same time, so there was more vehiclular traffic on Wisconsin. If they had waited another three weeks, 37th would have been open and the whole thing would have been fine.

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Anonymous wrote:At the ANC 3/4G candidate forum, the commissioners describe the bike lanes as a done deal. There wasn't a lot of room for the candidates to distinguish themselves on this issue, and in fact, none of them came out abjectly against them.

Two of the candidates were painfully non-committal, retreating to the 'we need to improve engagement' argument.

So they were embarrassed that this was caught out before they broke ground and think it's just a pr problem.

Let us all remember the names of the people responsible for our impending traffic nightmare. DDOT came up with the plan but those ANC commissioners are the ones that own it.

You are missing the point. The decision has been made. The bike lanes are going in. There are no options for reversing the decision.

If you want to hold anyone accountable, it is the Mayor. So if you want to vote against her, she will only get 80% of the vote instead of 81%.

Nope. I blame the ANC commissioners in our neighborhood. It is they who deserve our ire. It is they who should have known better. It is they who need to accept that their own responsibility will last and that people will not forget.

Actually, you are responsible. You and anyone else who failed to keep up with local community development initiatives. Failed to attend meetings and voice your concerns. Failed to answer surveys. If all these folks on these 120 pages had gotten off their couches and participated in democracy, this may have turned out differently. Go ahead and complain but don’t say you never had your chance. You blew it. It’s on you.

People have lives. Also, the D.C. government tries to sneak things like this by the public because they know people will hate it and kill it. You're dreaming if you think this project is actually going to happen.

"People have lives." You are completely off your rocker. Many ANC reps hold down busy jobs and have families and yet still find time to not only participate in the meetings but organize and lead them. The "D.C. government" held multiple virtual public meetings to present their plans and receive feedback from the community. The plans have been revised on account of that feedback. The local community not only likes this plan, but has endorsed it. Please get over it and stop insulting the rest of us by posting such bovine excreta.

The local community clearly does not like this plan. The amount of messages on the listserv and posts on this thread are quite telling.

I live on Connecticut Avenue. I am the local community. I like this plan. Just because you don't., please don't speak for the rest of us.

The ANC Commissioners up and down the Avenue LISTENED to their constituents and voted for a plan the majority of their constituents support. Why is this so hard to believe? Get out of your single family home bubble.

Please stop with the “single family home” nonsense. You’re sowing divisiveness for no reason. There is nothing wrong with living in a single family home and there’s nothing wrong with living in a multi-unit dwelling. There are people in both who support Concept C and people in both who oppose it or have serious concerns that they want to make sure are addressed. Stop stereotyping.

The claim that “the majority” of constituents support Concept C is not valid as it has never been placed on a ballot. It may be true that it’s supported by the majority of people who went to the meetings, but that’s not evidence of a majority of constituents.

In our political system, each action by the government doesn't get put to a popular vote. The way the majority can register their approval or disapproval is by voting. And all the ANC members and mayor were duly elected. SO.

Stiop pretending that ANCs are more than they are. ANC commissioners are not legislators.

Great, but the D.C. Council isn't against these bike lanes, either.

The expression of the council is through the budget. They have not yet approved the funds for this bike lane. Maybe they still will. Maybe they will consider it too expensive for now with other priorities more pressing.

The council has been, with the exception of Trayon White, in support of multi-modal transportation enhancements like bike lanes. Everyone understands how important Connecticut Avenue is to the city wide network.

Back to the dog whistles and euphemisms.

Being in favor of bike lanes does not equal being in favor of permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue
Being against permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue does not equal being against bike lanes or being anti-semitic.

It does not appear that propoenents are aware of how important Connecticut Avenue is to the regional transportation network.

They are well aware. They just think this will prompt everyone to discover a love for biking.

They assume that half of the traffic from constraining Connecticut Ave will be diverted onto bicycles. What a fantasy. Far more likely that the traffic gets diverted to Reno-34th St and Wisconsin Ave, with lots of frustrated drivers toggling back and forth on side streets between them and Connecticut on a Waze-craze to find the fastest route. Remember DDOT’s cluster-f fiasco in Glover Park 8 or 10 years ago, which they had to rip out. Connecticut will be that on steroids but far more difficult and costly to undo once the impact are felt.

stop.lying. that is not the DDOT projection.

oh and the glover park project was scuttled due to the influence of the notoriously ethical CM Evans.

I’ve spent time this week in Glover Park, Cleveland Park, and Capitol Hill. Once the bike lanes are installed on Ct Ave people are going to be clamoring for them on Wisc Ave.

Especially when the DC government pays millions in taxpayer $$ to WABA to lobby for more bike lanes.

But if Connecticut Avenue is narrowed and Wisconsin Ave is narrowed, how will commuter traffic get from Bethesda, Rockville, Kensington into DC? “I-34”(34th St) one supposes.

Does 34th st go downtown?

Google is your friend, but no, it T's at the Observatory/Mass Ave. Seriously, look at a map.

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Anonymous wrote:Thé whole concept c needs to be thought out better.

When you say "concept c" you are literally calling it what it is, a concept.

When you say "needs to be thought out better" - that is what is happening now, there bis a block by block analysis, looking at the retail, the driveways, the bus stops, everything, and fine tuning, with ANC and public input.

The revised plans should be available in 2023.

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Anonymous wrote:At the ANC 3/4G candidate forum, the commissioners describe the bike lanes as a done deal. There wasn't a lot of room for the candidates to distinguish themselves on this issue, and in fact, none of them came out abjectly against them.

Two of the candidates were painfully non-committal, retreating to the 'we need to improve engagement' argument.

So they were embarrassed that this was caught out before they broke ground and think it's just a pr problem.

Let us all remember the names of the people responsible for our impending traffic nightmare. DDOT came up with the plan but those ANC commissioners are the ones that own it.

You are missing the point. The decision has been made. The bike lanes are going in. There are no options for reversing the decision.

If you want to hold anyone accountable, it is the Mayor. So if you want to vote against her, she will only get 80% of the vote instead of 81%.

Nope. I blame the ANC commissioners in our neighborhood. It is they who deserve our ire. It is they who should have known better. It is they who need to accept that their own responsibility will last and that people will not forget.

Actually, you are responsible. You and anyone else who failed to keep up with local community development initiatives. Failed to attend meetings and voice your concerns. Failed to answer surveys. If all these folks on these 120 pages had gotten off their couches and participated in democracy, this may have turned out differently. Go ahead and complain but don’t say you never had your chance. You blew it. It’s on you.

People have lives. Also, the D.C. government tries to sneak things like this by the public because they know people will hate it and kill it. You're dreaming if you think this project is actually going to happen.

"People have lives." You are completely off your rocker. Many ANC reps hold down busy jobs and have families and yet still find time to not only participate in the meetings but organize and lead them. The "D.C. government" held multiple virtual public meetings to present their plans and receive feedback from the community. The plans have been revised on account of that feedback. The local community not only likes this plan, but has endorsed it. Please get over it and stop insulting the rest of us by posting such bovine excreta.

The local community clearly does not like this plan. The amount of messages on the listserv and posts on this thread are quite telling.

I live on Connecticut Avenue. I am the local community. I like this plan. Just because you don't., please don't speak for the rest of us.

The ANC Commissioners up and down the Avenue LISTENED to their constituents and voted for a plan the majority of their constituents support. Why is this so hard to believe? Get out of your single family home bubble.

Please stop with the “single family home” nonsense. You’re sowing divisiveness for no reason. There is nothing wrong with living in a single family home and there’s nothing wrong with living in a multi-unit dwelling. There are people in both who support Concept C and people in both who oppose it or have serious concerns that they want to make sure are addressed. Stop stereotyping.

The claim that “the majority” of constituents support Concept C is not valid as it has never been placed on a ballot. It may be true that it’s supported by the majority of people who went to the meetings, but that’s not evidence of a majority of constituents.

In our political system, each action by the government doesn't get put to a popular vote. The way the majority can register their approval or disapproval is by voting. And all the ANC members and mayor were duly elected. SO.

Stiop pretending that ANCs are more than they are. ANC commissioners are not legislators.

Great, but the D.C. Council isn't against these bike lanes, either.

The expression of the council is through the budget. They have not yet approved the funds for this bike lane. Maybe they still will. Maybe they will consider it too expensive for now with other priorities more pressing.

The council has been, with the exception of Trayon White, in support of multi-modal transportation enhancements like bike lanes. Everyone understands how important Connecticut Avenue is to the city wide network.

Back to the dog whistles and euphemisms.

Being in favor of bike lanes does not equal being in favor of permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue
Being against permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue does not equal being against bike lanes or being anti-semitic.

It does not appear that propoenents are aware of how important Connecticut Avenue is to the regional transportation network.

They are well aware. They just think this will prompt everyone to discover a love for biking.

They assume that half of the traffic from constraining Connecticut Ave will be diverted onto bicycles. What a fantasy. Far more likely that the traffic gets diverted to Reno-34th St and Wisconsin Ave, with lots of frustrated drivers toggling back and forth on side streets between them and Connecticut on a Waze-craze to find the fastest route. Remember DDOT’s cluster-f fiasco in Glover Park 8 or 10 years ago, which they had to rip out. Connecticut will be that on steroids but far more difficult and costly to undo once the impact are felt.

stop.lying. that is not the DDOT projection.

oh and the glover park project was scuttled due to the influence of the notoriously ethical CM Evans.

I’ve spent time this week in Glover Park, Cleveland Park, and Capitol Hill. Once the bike lanes are installed on Ct Ave people are going to be clamoring for them on Wisc Ave.

Especially when the DC government pays millions in taxpayer $$ to WABA to lobby for more bike lanes.

But if Connecticut Avenue is narrowed and Wisconsin Ave is narrowed, how will commuter traffic get from Bethesda, Rockville, Kensington into DC? “I-34”(34th St) one supposes.

You keep repeating this false claim.

WABA received public money for bike education particularly in our public schools.
WABA receives private and foundation money for "lobbyiing"

There are tight controls and reporting on both. It would be very illegal for them to comingle those funds.

Their filings are public, so you can look to see how they spend their money and assure that they are complying with the law.

Or...you could keep spouting these lies in a Trumpian manner.

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Anonymous wrote:At the ANC 3/4G candidate forum, the commissioners describe the bike lanes as a done deal. There wasn't a lot of room for the candidates to distinguish themselves on this issue, and in fact, none of them came out abjectly against them.

Two of the candidates were painfully non-committal, retreating to the 'we need to improve engagement' argument.

So they were embarrassed that this was caught out before they broke ground and think it's just a pr problem.

Let us all remember the names of the people responsible for our impending traffic nightmare. DDOT came up with the plan but those ANC commissioners are the ones that own it.

You are missing the point. The decision has been made. The bike lanes are going in. There are no options for reversing the decision.

If you want to hold anyone accountable, it is the Mayor. So if you want to vote against her, she will only get 80% of the vote instead of 81%.

Nope. I blame the ANC commissioners in our neighborhood. It is they who deserve our ire. It is they who should have known better. It is they who need to accept that their own responsibility will last and that people will not forget.

Actually, you are responsible. You and anyone else who failed to keep up with local community development initiatives. Failed to attend meetings and voice your concerns. Failed to answer surveys. If all these folks on these 120 pages had gotten off their couches and participated in democracy, this may have turned out differently. Go ahead and complain but don’t say you never had your chance. You blew it. It’s on you.

People have lives. Also, the D.C. government tries to sneak things like this by the public because they know people will hate it and kill it. You're dreaming if you think this project is actually going to happen.

"People have lives." You are completely off your rocker. Many ANC reps hold down busy jobs and have families and yet still find time to not only participate in the meetings but organize and lead them. The "D.C. government" held multiple virtual public meetings to present their plans and receive feedback from the community. The plans have been revised on account of that feedback. The local community not only likes this plan, but has endorsed it. Please get over it and stop insulting the rest of us by posting such bovine excreta.

The local community clearly does not like this plan. The amount of messages on the listserv and posts on this thread are quite telling.

I live on Connecticut Avenue. I am the local community. I like this plan. Just because you don't., please don't speak for the rest of us.

The ANC Commissioners up and down the Avenue LISTENED to their constituents and voted for a plan the majority of their constituents support. Why is this so hard to believe? Get out of your single family home bubble.

Please stop with the “single family home” nonsense. You’re sowing divisiveness for no reason. There is nothing wrong with living in a single family home and there’s nothing wrong with living in a multi-unit dwelling. There are people in both who support Concept C and people in both who oppose it or have serious concerns that they want to make sure are addressed. Stop stereotyping.

The claim that “the majority” of constituents support Concept C is not valid as it has never been placed on a ballot. It may be true that it’s supported by the majority of people who went to the meetings, but that’s not evidence of a majority of constituents.

In our political system, each action by the government doesn't get put to a popular vote. The way the majority can register their approval or disapproval is by voting. And all the ANC members and mayor were duly elected. SO.

Stiop pretending that ANCs are more than they are. ANC commissioners are not legislators.

Great, but the D.C. Council isn't against these bike lanes, either.

The expression of the council is through the budget. They have not yet approved the funds for this bike lane. Maybe they still will. Maybe they will consider it too expensive for now with other priorities more pressing.

The council has been, with the exception of Trayon White, in support of multi-modal transportation enhancements like bike lanes. Everyone understands how important Connecticut Avenue is to the city wide network.

Back to the dog whistles and euphemisms.

Being in favor of bike lanes does not equal being in favor of permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue
Being against permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue does not equal being against bike lanes or being anti-semitic.

It does not appear that propoenents are aware of how important Connecticut Avenue is to the regional transportation network.

They are well aware. They just think this will prompt everyone to discover a love for biking.

They assume that half of the traffic from constraining Connecticut Ave will be diverted onto bicycles. What a fantasy. Far more likely that the traffic gets diverted to Reno-34th St and Wisconsin Ave, with lots of frustrated drivers toggling back and forth on side streets between them and Connecticut on a Waze-craze to find the fastest route. Remember DDOT’s cluster-f fiasco in Glover Park 8 or 10 years ago, which they had to rip out. Connecticut will be that on steroids but far more difficult and costly to undo once the impact are felt.

stop.lying. that is not the DDOT projection.

You're right. It's only 25% that gets replaced by bicycles. The other 75% gets diverted onto neighborhood streets.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly how does adding bike lanes make a place whiter?

Really? Bicylcing is the "whitest" hobby there is. It's even whiter than tennis and golf. That doesn't mean that non-white people don't bike. But if your goal is diversification...

this is an ignorant and kind of racist take. get out of your bubble- there are black bikers all over DC.

Lol

We need less white people! Add bike lanes
Um, bike lanes primarily attract white people.
That's racist!

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I was up and down Connecticut today and noticed something. The entire road is sloped in order to let rain run off. The slope is especially prominent by the curbs. All of that will have to get flattened and graded to put in the bike lanes. Time to add drainage and icing to the multitude of reasons why this a bad idea.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly how does adding bike lanes make a place whiter?

Really? Bicylcing is the "whitest" hobby there is. It's even whiter than tennis and golf. That doesn't mean that non-white people don't bike. But if your goal is diversification...

… then build ATV lanes down Connecticut Avenue?

That's messed up. Bike lanes are not worth this behavior.

What behavior?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly how does adding bike lanes make a place whiter?

Really? Bicylcing is the "whitest" hobby there is. It's even whiter than tennis and golf. That doesn't mean that non-white people don't bike. But if your goal is diversification...

Is this a real comment because it’s funny.

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Anonymous wrote:At the ANC 3/4G candidate forum, the commissioners describe the bike lanes as a done deal. There wasn't a lot of room for the candidates to distinguish themselves on this issue, and in fact, none of them came out abjectly against them.

Two of the candidates were painfully non-committal, retreating to the 'we need to improve engagement' argument.

So they were embarrassed that this was caught out before they broke ground and think it's just a pr problem.

Let us all remember the names of the people responsible for our impending traffic nightmare. DDOT came up with the plan but those ANC commissioners are the ones that own it.

You are missing the point. The decision has been made. The bike lanes are going in. There are no options for reversing the decision.

If you want to hold anyone accountable, it is the Mayor. So if you want to vote against her, she will only get 80% of the vote instead of 81%.

Nope. I blame the ANC commissioners in our neighborhood. It is they who deserve our ire. It is they who should have known better. It is they who need to accept that their own responsibility will last and that people will not forget.

Actually, you are responsible. You and anyone else who failed to keep up with local community development initiatives. Failed to attend meetings and voice your concerns. Failed to answer surveys. If all these folks on these 120 pages had gotten off their couches and participated in democracy, this may have turned out differently. Go ahead and complain but don’t say you never had your chance. You blew it. It’s on you.

People have lives. Also, the D.C. government tries to sneak things like this by the public because they know people will hate it and kill it. You're dreaming if you think this project is actually going to happen.

"People have lives." You are completely off your rocker. Many ANC reps hold down busy jobs and have families and yet still find time to not only participate in the meetings but organize and lead them. The "D.C. government" held multiple virtual public meetings to present their plans and receive feedback from the community. The plans have been revised on account of that feedback. The local community not only likes this plan, but has endorsed it. Please get over it and stop insulting the rest of us by posting such bovine excreta.

The local community clearly does not like this plan. The amount of messages on the listserv and posts on this thread are quite telling.

I live on Connecticut Avenue. I am the local community. I like this plan. Just because you don't., please don't speak for the rest of us.

The ANC Commissioners up and down the Avenue LISTENED to their constituents and voted for a plan the majority of their constituents support. Why is this so hard to believe? Get out of your single family home bubble.

Please stop with the “single family home” nonsense. You’re sowing divisiveness for no reason. There is nothing wrong with living in a single family home and there’s nothing wrong with living in a multi-unit dwelling. There are people in both who support Concept C and people in both who oppose it or have serious concerns that they want to make sure are addressed. Stop stereotyping.

The claim that “the majority” of constituents support Concept C is not valid as it has never been placed on a ballot. It may be true that it’s supported by the majority of people who went to the meetings, but that’s not evidence of a majority of constituents.

In our political system, each action by the government doesn't get put to a popular vote. The way the majority can register their approval or disapproval is by voting. And all the ANC members and mayor were duly elected. SO.

Stiop pretending that ANCs are more than they are. ANC commissioners are not legislators.

Great, but the D.C. Council isn't against these bike lanes, either.

The expression of the council is through the budget. They have not yet approved the funds for this bike lane. Maybe they still will. Maybe they will consider it too expensive for now with other priorities more pressing.

The council has been, with the exception of Trayon White, in support of multi-modal transportation enhancements like bike lanes. Everyone understands how important Connecticut Avenue is to the city wide network.

Back to the dog whistles and euphemisms.

Being in favor of bike lanes does not equal being in favor of permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue
Being against permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue does not equal being against bike lanes or being anti-semitic.

It does not appear that propoenents are aware of how important Connecticut Avenue is to the regional transportation network.

They are well aware. They just think this will prompt everyone to discover a love for biking.

They assume that half of the traffic from constraining Connecticut Ave will be diverted onto bicycles. What a fantasy. Far more likely that the traffic gets diverted to Reno-34th St and Wisconsin Ave, with lots of frustrated drivers toggling back and forth on side streets between them and Connecticut on a Waze-craze to find the fastest route. Remember DDOT’s cluster-f fiasco in Glover Park 8 or 10 years ago, which they had to rip out. Connecticut will be that on steroids but far more difficult and costly to undo once the impact are felt.

stop.lying. that is not the DDOT projection.

oh and the glover park project was scuttled due to the influence of the notoriously ethical CM Evans.

I’ve spent time this week in Glover Park, Cleveland Park, and Capitol Hill. Once the bike lanes are installed on Ct Ave people are going to be clamoring for them on Wisc Ave.

Especially when the DC government pays millions in taxpayer $$ to WABA to lobby for more bike lanes.

But if Connecticut Avenue is narrowed and Wisconsin Ave is narrowed, how will commuter traffic get from Bethesda, Rockville, Kensington into DC? “I-34”(34th St) one supposes.

You keep repeating this false claim.

WABA received public money for bike education particularly in our public schools.
WABA receives private and foundation money for "lobbyiing"

There are tight controls and reporting on both. It would be very illegal for them to comingle those funds.

Their filings are public, so you can look to see how they spend their money and assure that they are complying with the law.

Or...you could keep spouting these lies in a Trumpian manner.

First off, the sole-source arrangement is where the corruption is. If DDOT was doing anything serious or important, it should have been competitively bid. Secondly, you’re lying. The DDOT $$$$$ is supposedly to pay WABA to scout locations for bike racks. No joke. It is not a serious grant. Furthermore, only you care about these distinctions with little difference. DDOT $$$$ helps to boost WABA profile which helps its lobbying.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly how does adding bike lanes make a place whiter?

Really? Bicylcing is the "whitest" hobby there is. It's even whiter than tennis and golf. That doesn't mean that non-white people don't bike. But if your goal is diversification...

Is this a real comment because it’s funny.

It’s funny because its true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Evans had a vested interest given his twice daily commute to Maret. The problem with that plan was not the plan, but that the city was redoing 37th Street at the same time, so there was more vehiclular traffic on Wisconsin. If they had waited another three weeks, 37th would have been open and the whole thing would have been fine.

Nope. The problem was that DDOT (very, very purposely) did its studies of Wisconsin's traffic in early August, when traffic is the lightest it is all year. So they came to the fraudulent conclusion that Wisconsin could handle the traffic if lanes were taken away. The changes were made based on faulty data, Wisconsin became a parking lot, drivers began using Glover Park as a high-speed cut-though and it became abundantly clear that the plan was a disaster. So it was changed back.

The changes coming to Connecticut will be much more costly to undo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was up and down Connecticut today and noticed something. The entire road is sloped in order to let rain run off. The slope is especially prominent by the curbs. All of that will have to get flattened and graded to put in the bike lanes. Time to add drainage and icing to the multitude of reasons why this a bad idea.

What you are describing is called crowning. Every road in DC has this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was up and down Connecticut today and noticed something. The entire road is sloped in order to let rain run off. The slope is especially prominent by the curbs. All of that will have to get flattened and graded to put in the bike lanes. Time to add drainage and icing to the multitude of reasons why this a bad idea.

What you are describing is called crowning. Every road in DC has this.

And how will stormwater runoff be accommodated with protected bike lanes?