Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

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Anonymous wrote:At the ANC 3/4G candidate forum, the commissioners describe the bike lanes as a done deal. There wasn't a lot of room for the candidates to distinguish themselves on this issue, and in fact, none of them came out abjectly against them.

Two of the candidates were painfully non-committal, retreating to the 'we need to improve engagement' argument.

So they were embarrassed that this was caught out before they broke ground and think it's just a pr problem.

Let us all remember the names of the people responsible for our impending traffic nightmare. DDOT came up with the plan but those ANC commissioners are the ones that own it.

You are missing the point. The decision has been made. The bike lanes are going in. There are no options for reversing the decision.

If you want to hold anyone accountable, it is the Mayor. So if you want to vote against her, she will only get 80% of the vote instead of 81%.

Nope. I blame the ANC commissioners in our neighborhood. It is they who deserve our ire. It is they who should have known better. It is they who need to accept that their own responsibility will last and that people will not forget.

Actually, you are responsible. You and anyone else who failed to keep up with local community development initiatives. Failed to attend meetings and voice your concerns. Failed to answer surveys. If all these folks on these 120 pages had gotten off their couches and participated in democracy, this may have turned out differently. Go ahead and complain but don’t say you never had your chance. You blew it. It’s on you.

Nope. That is not how responsibility works. The buck stops with those individuals that agreed to the plan. Those individuals that chose to ignore the criticisms. Thise individuals that chose to do this. ANC commissioners are not politicians. They are not and have never been policy makers. Yet on this they decided to be that.

Nope. It’s a democracy. You have a voice equal to every other person at an ANC mtg. Did you show up? No? Your responsibility as a citizen to show up. Do you even vote?

And “no, we have lives so we let other people make decisions for us because they must not have lives?” But then we will blame the people who didn’t read our minds for making decisions without us. We were too busy.

Sorry. Guess you’ll pay more attention next time.

Nobody we know went to the “Connecticut Avenue NW Reversible Lane Safety and Operations Study” meetings. Why would they, everyone agreed they were bad and glad they were gone. I think more people would have showed up to the “Create a Traffic Nightmare on Connecticut Ave Meetings.” My ANC had its first meeting on the “Reversible Lane Study” on February 24, 2021 when my kids had been out of school for nearly one year and weeks after 1/6. Like many families with young kids we were barely keeping it together and dealing with multiple mental health issues. This was no time to be making major regional transportation decisions. Many of us are angry and feel as if this plan was rammed through by the young, childless, and abled. There may have been 50 meetings total, but each ANC only had a few, so it was easy to miss if you weren’t paying attention.

I'm not young or childless and found that the pandemic made it much easier to attend and participate in ANC and other public meetings.

Also, has it occurred to you that maybe if you have participated, you would understand the plan better and that if you did understand the plan, you might realize that it's not the bogeyman you seem to think it is? Ward 3 NIMBYs have perfected the art of trying to foment opposition to projects based on half-truths, fabrications, and outright lies. Sometimes this happens deliberately, but often it's because they just never bothered to educate themselves before opening their mouths in the first place and are then to damn conceited to acknowledge their misrepresentations once they learn more.

Dozens of pages before, someone who clearly does understand the plan explained very patiently why the combined changes will improve vehicle flow along CT Ave. and not result in significant spillovers of traffic to side streets. Please go back and read that. With an open mind.

After working all day and while simultaneously homeschooling your kids you found time to hop on an ANC Zoom call? This is completely not plausible.

Yep. ANC meetings are once a month. The consultations are even more infrequent. It’s not that hard. Really.

One of the ANC commissioners is quite likely to be voted out because a lot of his constituents are hopping mad about how Option C makes the streets where they live a lot more unsafe. They feel blindsided.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly how does adding bike lanes make a place whiter?

Really? Bicylcing is the "whitest" hobby there is. It's even whiter than tennis and golf. That doesn't mean that non-white people don't bike. But if your goal is diversification...

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly how does adding bike lanes make a place whiter?

Really? Bicylcing is the "whitest" hobby there is. It's even whiter than tennis and golf. That doesn't mean that non-white people don't bike. But if your goal is diversification...

… then build ATV lanes down Connecticut Avenue?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly how does adding bike lanes make a place whiter?

Really? Bicylcing is the "whitest" hobby there is. It's even whiter than tennis and golf. That doesn't mean that non-white people don't bike. But if your goal is diversification...

… then build ATV lanes down Connecticut Avenue?

That's messed up. Bike lanes are not worth this behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly how does adding bike lanes make a place whiter?

Really? Bicylcing is the "whitest" hobby there is. It's even whiter than tennis and golf. That doesn't mean that non-white people don't bike. But if your goal is diversification...

So adding bike lanes makes things whiter? Interesting theory.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly how does adding bike lanes make a place whiter?

Really? Bicylcing is the "whitest" hobby there is. It's even whiter than tennis and golf. That doesn't mean that non-white people don't bike. But if your goal is diversification...

this is an ignorant and kind of racist take. get out of your bubble- there are black bikers all over DC.

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Anonymous wrote:At the ANC 3/4G candidate forum, the commissioners describe the bike lanes as a done deal. There wasn't a lot of room for the candidates to distinguish themselves on this issue, and in fact, none of them came out abjectly against them.

Two of the candidates were painfully non-committal, retreating to the 'we need to improve engagement' argument.

So they were embarrassed that this was caught out before they broke ground and think it's just a pr problem.

Let us all remember the names of the people responsible for our impending traffic nightmare. DDOT came up with the plan but those ANC commissioners are the ones that own it.

You are missing the point. The decision has been made. The bike lanes are going in. There are no options for reversing the decision.

If you want to hold anyone accountable, it is the Mayor. So if you want to vote against her, she will only get 80% of the vote instead of 81%.

Nope. I blame the ANC commissioners in our neighborhood. It is they who deserve our ire. It is they who should have known better. It is they who need to accept that their own responsibility will last and that people will not forget.

Actually, you are responsible. You and anyone else who failed to keep up with local community development initiatives. Failed to attend meetings and voice your concerns. Failed to answer surveys. If all these folks on these 120 pages had gotten off their couches and participated in democracy, this may have turned out differently. Go ahead and complain but don’t say you never had your chance. You blew it. It’s on you.

People have lives. Also, the D.C. government tries to sneak things like this by the public because they know people will hate it and kill it. You're dreaming if you think this project is actually going to happen.

"People have lives." You are completely off your rocker. Many ANC reps hold down busy jobs and have families and yet still find time to not only participate in the meetings but organize and lead them. The "D.C. government" held multiple virtual public meetings to present their plans and receive feedback from the community. The plans have been revised on account of that feedback. The local community not only likes this plan, but has endorsed it. Please get over it and stop insulting the rest of us by posting such bovine excreta.

The local community clearly does not like this plan. The amount of messages on the listserv and posts on this thread are quite telling.

I live on Connecticut Avenue. I am the local community. I like this plan. Just because you don't., please don't speak for the rest of us.

The ANC Commissioners up and down the Avenue LISTENED to their constituents and voted for a plan the majority of their constituents support. Why is this so hard to believe? Get out of your single family home bubble.

Please stop with the “single family home” nonsense. You’re sowing divisiveness for no reason. There is nothing wrong with living in a single family home and there’s nothing wrong with living in a multi-unit dwelling. There are people in both who support Concept C and people in both who oppose it or have serious concerns that they want to make sure are addressed. Stop stereotyping.

The claim that “the majority” of constituents support Concept C is not valid as it has never been placed on a ballot. It may be true that it’s supported by the majority of people who went to the meetings, but that’s not evidence of a majority of constituents.

In our political system, each action by the government doesn't get put to a popular vote. The way the majority can register their approval or disapproval is by voting. And all the ANC members and mayor were duly elected. SO.

Stiop pretending that ANCs are more than they are. ANC commissioners are not legislators.

Great, but the D.C. Council isn't against these bike lanes, either.

The expression of the council is through the budget. They have not yet approved the funds for this bike lane. Maybe they still will. Maybe they will consider it too expensive for now with other priorities more pressing.

The council has been, with the exception of Trayon White, in support of multi-modal transportation enhancements like bike lanes. Everyone understands how important Connecticut Avenue is to the city wide network.

Back to the dog whistles and euphemisms.

Being in favor of bike lanes does not equal being in favor of permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue
Being against permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue does not equal being against bike lanes or being anti-semitic.

It does not appear that propoenents are aware of how important Connecticut Avenue is to the regional transportation network.

They are well aware. They just think this will prompt everyone to discover a love for biking.

They assume that half of the traffic from constraining Connecticut Ave will be diverted onto bicycles. What a fantasy. Far more likely that the traffic gets diverted to Reno-34th St and Wisconsin Ave, with lots of frustrated drivers toggling back and forth on side streets between them and Connecticut on a Waze-craze to find the fastest route. Remember DDOT’s cluster-f fiasco in Glover Park 8 or 10 years ago, which they had to rip out. Connecticut will be that on steroids but far more difficult and costly to undo once the impact are felt.

stop.lying. that is not the DDOT projection.

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Anonymous wrote:At the ANC 3/4G candidate forum, the commissioners describe the bike lanes as a done deal. There wasn't a lot of room for the candidates to distinguish themselves on this issue, and in fact, none of them came out abjectly against them.

Two of the candidates were painfully non-committal, retreating to the 'we need to improve engagement' argument.

So they were embarrassed that this was caught out before they broke ground and think it's just a pr problem.

Let us all remember the names of the people responsible for our impending traffic nightmare. DDOT came up with the plan but those ANC commissioners are the ones that own it.

You are missing the point. The decision has been made. The bike lanes are going in. There are no options for reversing the decision.

If you want to hold anyone accountable, it is the Mayor. So if you want to vote against her, she will only get 80% of the vote instead of 81%.

Nope. I blame the ANC commissioners in our neighborhood. It is they who deserve our ire. It is they who should have known better. It is they who need to accept that their own responsibility will last and that people will not forget.

Actually, you are responsible. You and anyone else who failed to keep up with local community development initiatives. Failed to attend meetings and voice your concerns. Failed to answer surveys. If all these folks on these 120 pages had gotten off their couches and participated in democracy, this may have turned out differently. Go ahead and complain but don’t say you never had your chance. You blew it. It’s on you.

People have lives. Also, the D.C. government tries to sneak things like this by the public because they know people will hate it and kill it. You're dreaming if you think this project is actually going to happen.

"People have lives." You are completely off your rocker. Many ANC reps hold down busy jobs and have families and yet still find time to not only participate in the meetings but organize and lead them. The "D.C. government" held multiple virtual public meetings to present their plans and receive feedback from the community. The plans have been revised on account of that feedback. The local community not only likes this plan, but has endorsed it. Please get over it and stop insulting the rest of us by posting such bovine excreta.

The local community clearly does not like this plan. The amount of messages on the listserv and posts on this thread are quite telling.

I live on Connecticut Avenue. I am the local community. I like this plan. Just because you don't., please don't speak for the rest of us.

The ANC Commissioners up and down the Avenue LISTENED to their constituents and voted for a plan the majority of their constituents support. Why is this so hard to believe? Get out of your single family home bubble.

Please stop with the “single family home” nonsense. You’re sowing divisiveness for no reason. There is nothing wrong with living in a single family home and there’s nothing wrong with living in a multi-unit dwelling. There are people in both who support Concept C and people in both who oppose it or have serious concerns that they want to make sure are addressed. Stop stereotyping.

The claim that “the majority” of constituents support Concept C is not valid as it has never been placed on a ballot. It may be true that it’s supported by the majority of people who went to the meetings, but that’s not evidence of a majority of constituents.

In our political system, each action by the government doesn't get put to a popular vote. The way the majority can register their approval or disapproval is by voting. And all the ANC members and mayor were duly elected. SO.

Stiop pretending that ANCs are more than they are. ANC commissioners are not legislators.

Great, but the D.C. Council isn't against these bike lanes, either.

The expression of the council is through the budget. They have not yet approved the funds for this bike lane. Maybe they still will. Maybe they will consider it too expensive for now with other priorities more pressing.

The council has been, with the exception of Trayon White, in support of multi-modal transportation enhancements like bike lanes. Everyone understands how important Connecticut Avenue is to the city wide network.

Back to the dog whistles and euphemisms.

Being in favor of bike lanes does not equal being in favor of permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue
Being against permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue does not equal being against bike lanes or being anti-semitic.

It does not appear that propoenents are aware of how important Connecticut Avenue is to the regional transportation network.

They are well aware. They just think this will prompt everyone to discover a love for biking.

They assume that half of the traffic from constraining Connecticut Ave will be diverted onto bicycles. What a fantasy. Far more likely that the traffic gets diverted to Reno-34th St and Wisconsin Ave, with lots of frustrated drivers toggling back and forth on side streets between them and Connecticut on a Waze-craze to find the fastest route. Remember DDOT’s cluster-f fiasco in Glover Park 8 or 10 years ago, which they had to rip out. Connecticut will be that on steroids but far more difficult and costly to undo once the impact are felt.

stop.lying. that is not the DDOT projection.

oh and the glover park project was scuttled due to the influence of the notoriously ethical CM Evans.

I’ve spent time this week in Glover Park, Cleveland Park, and Capitol Hill. Once the bike lanes are installed on Ct Ave people are going to be clamoring for them on Wisc Ave.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I remember the hundreds of pages Hearst Pool thread where people vilified Cheh, called DOOM on parking and "people from across the city" coming to Hearst.

What happened?

Pool was a little late in opening and was packed every.single.day.with people from the neighborhood who LOVE their new neighborhood pool that they can walk anbd bike to.

Same thing with Cathedral Commons - this was going to be the end of the historic district. Instead, there is minimal parking impact and the restaurants are busy every night, mostly with people from the neighborhood.

When Babes was being redeveloped into Tenley View, the neighbors went crazy over the idea that the building wouldn't have very many parking spots. Impact? None, but the three quick food places that are well supported by the neighborhood and AU students.

So much complaining about change which has translated to...a better quality of life.

Same thing with this. Just watch.

It's outrageous that the city responded at all to the BS concerns by making Hearst a smaller pool. These people are holding the neighborhood back for the next generation. We don't want to live car-centric, dangerous for pedestrians, private school lives where we only socialize with white people and eat mediocre food.

Then why did you move to Cleveland Park. White people and mediocre restaurants is what it is. And your idea to eliminate two lanes and replace them with bikes just increases all of that.

Traffic is bad. Let's increase congestion and make it worse.
There are too many white people (not including us - we're good white people). Let's make it whiter by adding bike lanes.
The restaurants are mediocre. We need a Red Lobster.

This is really funny because its true. But I think they prefer a Luke’s Lobster, not a Red Lobster. Nor will they rest until they have achieved their ultimate objective, a Shake Shack.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly how does adding bike lanes make a place whiter?

Really? Bicylcing is the "whitest" hobby there is. It's even whiter than tennis and golf. That doesn't mean that non-white people don't bike. But if your goal is diversification...

this is an ignorant and kind of racist take. get out of your bubble- there are black bikers all over DC.

Well, it’s not really surprising the PP is also ignorant and racist.

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Thé whole concept c needs to be thought out better.

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Anonymous wrote:Thé whole concept c needs to be thought out better.

That is literally what DDOT is doing right now through community input and engagement.

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Anonymous wrote:At the ANC 3/4G candidate forum, the commissioners describe the bike lanes as a done deal. There wasn't a lot of room for the candidates to distinguish themselves on this issue, and in fact, none of them came out abjectly against them.

Two of the candidates were painfully non-committal, retreating to the 'we need to improve engagement' argument.

So they were embarrassed that this was caught out before they broke ground and think it's just a pr problem.

Let us all remember the names of the people responsible for our impending traffic nightmare. DDOT came up with the plan but those ANC commissioners are the ones that own it.

You are missing the point. The decision has been made. The bike lanes are going in. There are no options for reversing the decision.

If you want to hold anyone accountable, it is the Mayor. So if you want to vote against her, she will only get 80% of the vote instead of 81%.

Nope. I blame the ANC commissioners in our neighborhood. It is they who deserve our ire. It is they who should have known better. It is they who need to accept that their own responsibility will last and that people will not forget.

Actually, you are responsible. You and anyone else who failed to keep up with local community development initiatives. Failed to attend meetings and voice your concerns. Failed to answer surveys. If all these folks on these 120 pages had gotten off their couches and participated in democracy, this may have turned out differently. Go ahead and complain but don’t say you never had your chance. You blew it. It’s on you.

People have lives. Also, the D.C. government tries to sneak things like this by the public because they know people will hate it and kill it. You're dreaming if you think this project is actually going to happen.

"People have lives." You are completely off your rocker. Many ANC reps hold down busy jobs and have families and yet still find time to not only participate in the meetings but organize and lead them. The "D.C. government" held multiple virtual public meetings to present their plans and receive feedback from the community. The plans have been revised on account of that feedback. The local community not only likes this plan, but has endorsed it. Please get over it and stop insulting the rest of us by posting such bovine excreta.

The local community clearly does not like this plan. The amount of messages on the listserv and posts on this thread are quite telling.

I live on Connecticut Avenue. I am the local community. I like this plan. Just because you don't., please don't speak for the rest of us.

The ANC Commissioners up and down the Avenue LISTENED to their constituents and voted for a plan the majority of their constituents support. Why is this so hard to believe? Get out of your single family home bubble.

Please stop with the “single family home” nonsense. You’re sowing divisiveness for no reason. There is nothing wrong with living in a single family home and there’s nothing wrong with living in a multi-unit dwelling. There are people in both who support Concept C and people in both who oppose it or have serious concerns that they want to make sure are addressed. Stop stereotyping.

The claim that “the majority” of constituents support Concept C is not valid as it has never been placed on a ballot. It may be true that it’s supported by the majority of people who went to the meetings, but that’s not evidence of a majority of constituents.

In our political system, each action by the government doesn't get put to a popular vote. The way the majority can register their approval or disapproval is by voting. And all the ANC members and mayor were duly elected. SO.

Stiop pretending that ANCs are more than they are. ANC commissioners are not legislators.

Great, but the D.C. Council isn't against these bike lanes, either.

The expression of the council is through the budget. They have not yet approved the funds for this bike lane. Maybe they still will. Maybe they will consider it too expensive for now with other priorities more pressing.

The council has been, with the exception of Trayon White, in support of multi-modal transportation enhancements like bike lanes. Everyone understands how important Connecticut Avenue is to the city wide network.

Back to the dog whistles and euphemisms.

Being in favor of bike lanes does not equal being in favor of permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue
Being against permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue does not equal being against bike lanes or being anti-semitic.

It does not appear that propoenents are aware of how important Connecticut Avenue is to the regional transportation network.

They are well aware. They just think this will prompt everyone to discover a love for biking.

They assume that half of the traffic from constraining Connecticut Ave will be diverted onto bicycles. What a fantasy. Far more likely that the traffic gets diverted to Reno-34th St and Wisconsin Ave, with lots of frustrated drivers toggling back and forth on side streets between them and Connecticut on a Waze-craze to find the fastest route. Remember DDOT’s cluster-f fiasco in Glover Park 8 or 10 years ago, which they had to rip out. Connecticut will be that on steroids but far more difficult and costly to undo once the impact are felt.

stop.lying. that is not the DDOT projection.

oh and the glover park project was scuttled due to the influence of the notoriously ethical CM Evans.

I’ve spent time this week in Glover Park, Cleveland Park, and Capitol Hill. Once the bike lanes are installed on Ct Ave people are going to be clamoring for them on Wisc Ave.

Especially when the DC government pays millions in taxpayer $$ to WABA to lobby for more bike lanes.

But if Connecticut Avenue is narrowed and Wisconsin Ave is narrowed, how will commuter traffic get from Bethesda, Rockville, Kensington into DC? “I-34”(34th St) one supposes.

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Anonymous wrote:At the ANC 3/4G candidate forum, the commissioners describe the bike lanes as a done deal. There wasn't a lot of room for the candidates to distinguish themselves on this issue, and in fact, none of them came out abjectly against them.

Two of the candidates were painfully non-committal, retreating to the 'we need to improve engagement' argument.

So they were embarrassed that this was caught out before they broke ground and think it's just a pr problem.

Let us all remember the names of the people responsible for our impending traffic nightmare. DDOT came up with the plan but those ANC commissioners are the ones that own it.

You are missing the point. The decision has been made. The bike lanes are going in. There are no options for reversing the decision.

If you want to hold anyone accountable, it is the Mayor. So if you want to vote against her, she will only get 80% of the vote instead of 81%.

Nope. I blame the ANC commissioners in our neighborhood. It is they who deserve our ire. It is they who should have known better. It is they who need to accept that their own responsibility will last and that people will not forget.

Actually, you are responsible. You and anyone else who failed to keep up with local community development initiatives. Failed to attend meetings and voice your concerns. Failed to answer surveys. If all these folks on these 120 pages had gotten off their couches and participated in democracy, this may have turned out differently. Go ahead and complain but don’t say you never had your chance. You blew it. It’s on you.

People have lives. Also, the D.C. government tries to sneak things like this by the public because they know people will hate it and kill it. You're dreaming if you think this project is actually going to happen.

"People have lives." You are completely off your rocker. Many ANC reps hold down busy jobs and have families and yet still find time to not only participate in the meetings but organize and lead them. The "D.C. government" held multiple virtual public meetings to present their plans and receive feedback from the community. The plans have been revised on account of that feedback. The local community not only likes this plan, but has endorsed it. Please get over it and stop insulting the rest of us by posting such bovine excreta.

The local community clearly does not like this plan. The amount of messages on the listserv and posts on this thread are quite telling.

I live on Connecticut Avenue. I am the local community. I like this plan. Just because you don't., please don't speak for the rest of us.

The ANC Commissioners up and down the Avenue LISTENED to their constituents and voted for a plan the majority of their constituents support. Why is this so hard to believe? Get out of your single family home bubble.

Please stop with the “single family home” nonsense. You’re sowing divisiveness for no reason. There is nothing wrong with living in a single family home and there’s nothing wrong with living in a multi-unit dwelling. There are people in both who support Concept C and people in both who oppose it or have serious concerns that they want to make sure are addressed. Stop stereotyping.

The claim that “the majority” of constituents support Concept C is not valid as it has never been placed on a ballot. It may be true that it’s supported by the majority of people who went to the meetings, but that’s not evidence of a majority of constituents.

In our political system, each action by the government doesn't get put to a popular vote. The way the majority can register their approval or disapproval is by voting. And all the ANC members and mayor were duly elected. SO.

Stiop pretending that ANCs are more than they are. ANC commissioners are not legislators.

Great, but the D.C. Council isn't against these bike lanes, either.

The expression of the council is through the budget. They have not yet approved the funds for this bike lane. Maybe they still will. Maybe they will consider it too expensive for now with other priorities more pressing.

The council has been, with the exception of Trayon White, in support of multi-modal transportation enhancements like bike lanes. Everyone understands how important Connecticut Avenue is to the city wide network.

Back to the dog whistles and euphemisms.

Being in favor of bike lanes does not equal being in favor of permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue
Being against permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue does not equal being against bike lanes or being anti-semitic.

It does not appear that propoenents are aware of how important Connecticut Avenue is to the regional transportation network.

They are well aware. They just think this will prompt everyone to discover a love for biking.

They assume that half of the traffic from constraining Connecticut Ave will be diverted onto bicycles. What a fantasy. Far more likely that the traffic gets diverted to Reno-34th St and Wisconsin Ave, with lots of frustrated drivers toggling back and forth on side streets between them and Connecticut on a Waze-craze to find the fastest route. Remember DDOT’s cluster-f fiasco in Glover Park 8 or 10 years ago, which they had to rip out. Connecticut will be that on steroids but far more difficult and costly to undo once the impact are felt.

stop.lying. that is not the DDOT projection.

oh and the glover park project was scuttled due to the influence of the notoriously ethical CM Evans.

I’ve spent time this week in Glover Park, Cleveland Park, and Capitol Hill. Once the bike lanes are installed on Ct Ave people are going to be clamoring for them on Wisc Ave.

Especially when the DC government pays millions in taxpayer $$ to WABA to lobby for more bike lanes.

But if Connecticut Avenue is narrowed and Wisconsin Ave is narrowed, how will commuter traffic get from Bethesda, Rockville, Kensington into DC? “I-34”(34th St) one supposes.

Does 34th st go downtown?

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Anonymous wrote:At the ANC 3/4G candidate forum, the commissioners describe the bike lanes as a done deal. There wasn't a lot of room for the candidates to distinguish themselves on this issue, and in fact, none of them came out abjectly against them.

Two of the candidates were painfully non-committal, retreating to the 'we need to improve engagement' argument.

So they were embarrassed that this was caught out before they broke ground and think it's just a pr problem.

Let us all remember the names of the people responsible for our impending traffic nightmare. DDOT came up with the plan but those ANC commissioners are the ones that own it.

You are missing the point. The decision has been made. The bike lanes are going in. There are no options for reversing the decision.

If you want to hold anyone accountable, it is the Mayor. So if you want to vote against her, she will only get 80% of the vote instead of 81%.

Nope. I blame the ANC commissioners in our neighborhood. It is they who deserve our ire. It is they who should have known better. It is they who need to accept that their own responsibility will last and that people will not forget.

Actually, you are responsible. You and anyone else who failed to keep up with local community development initiatives. Failed to attend meetings and voice your concerns. Failed to answer surveys. If all these folks on these 120 pages had gotten off their couches and participated in democracy, this may have turned out differently. Go ahead and complain but don’t say you never had your chance. You blew it. It’s on you.

People have lives. Also, the D.C. government tries to sneak things like this by the public because they know people will hate it and kill it. You're dreaming if you think this project is actually going to happen.

"People have lives." You are completely off your rocker. Many ANC reps hold down busy jobs and have families and yet still find time to not only participate in the meetings but organize and lead them. The "D.C. government" held multiple virtual public meetings to present their plans and receive feedback from the community. The plans have been revised on account of that feedback. The local community not only likes this plan, but has endorsed it. Please get over it and stop insulting the rest of us by posting such bovine excreta.

The local community clearly does not like this plan. The amount of messages on the listserv and posts on this thread are quite telling.

I live on Connecticut Avenue. I am the local community. I like this plan. Just because you don't., please don't speak for the rest of us.

The ANC Commissioners up and down the Avenue LISTENED to their constituents and voted for a plan the majority of their constituents support. Why is this so hard to believe? Get out of your single family home bubble.

Please stop with the “single family home” nonsense. You’re sowing divisiveness for no reason. There is nothing wrong with living in a single family home and there’s nothing wrong with living in a multi-unit dwelling. There are people in both who support Concept C and people in both who oppose it or have serious concerns that they want to make sure are addressed. Stop stereotyping.

The claim that “the majority” of constituents support Concept C is not valid as it has never been placed on a ballot. It may be true that it’s supported by the majority of people who went to the meetings, but that’s not evidence of a majority of constituents.

In our political system, each action by the government doesn't get put to a popular vote. The way the majority can register their approval or disapproval is by voting. And all the ANC members and mayor were duly elected. SO.

Stiop pretending that ANCs are more than they are. ANC commissioners are not legislators.

Great, but the D.C. Council isn't against these bike lanes, either.

The expression of the council is through the budget. They have not yet approved the funds for this bike lane. Maybe they still will. Maybe they will consider it too expensive for now with other priorities more pressing.

The council has been, with the exception of Trayon White, in support of multi-modal transportation enhancements like bike lanes. Everyone understands how important Connecticut Avenue is to the city wide network.

Back to the dog whistles and euphemisms.

Being in favor of bike lanes does not equal being in favor of permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue
Being against permanently shutting down two lanes of Connecticut Avenue does not equal being against bike lanes or being anti-semitic.

It does not appear that propoenents are aware of how important Connecticut Avenue is to the regional transportation network.

They are well aware. They just think this will prompt everyone to discover a love for biking.

They assume that half of the traffic from constraining Connecticut Ave will be diverted onto bicycles. What a fantasy. Far more likely that the traffic gets diverted to Reno-34th St and Wisconsin Ave, with lots of frustrated drivers toggling back and forth on side streets between them and Connecticut on a Waze-craze to find the fastest route. Remember DDOT’s cluster-f fiasco in Glover Park 8 or 10 years ago, which they had to rip out. Connecticut will be that on steroids but far more difficult and costly to undo once the impact are felt.

stop.lying. that is not the DDOT projection.

oh and the glover park project was scuttled due to the influence of the notoriously ethical CM Evans.

I’ve spent time this week in Glover Park, Cleveland Park, and Capitol Hill. Once the bike lanes are installed on Ct Ave people are going to be clamoring for them on Wisc Ave.

Especially when the DC government pays millions in taxpayer $$ to WABA to lobby for more bike lanes.

But if Connecticut Avenue is narrowed and Wisconsin Ave is narrowed, how will commuter traffic get from Bethesda, Rockville, Kensington into DC? “I-34”(34th St) one supposes.

drive to metro or MARC, get on train to DC, proceed to destination.