2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of people lose their kids under bizarre or tragic circumstances. Somehow they seem to eventually be able to pick up their lives even without multi-million dollar settlements.

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The settlement will be well less than 10 million, people are throwing out absolutely crazy numbers Willy nilly.

And part of that money will have to be held in trust for the other sibling. The parents and the surviving sibling are going to have split the money, if the wrongful death laws there are like the ones in my jurisdiction.

[Anonymous]

If anyone has read Carl Hiassen's "Team Rodent" you will learn what an evil corporation Disney really is. In Orlando, they actually lobbied the state legislature to create a special improvement district - Reedy Creek - over which they have complete control as a corporate entity.

[Anonymous]

And Carl talk about the gators in Bay Lake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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In other suits, Florida laws have been interpreted that property owners are not responsible for wild animal attacks unless they kept them as pets.

Also, from an earlier article posted, when it comes to alligator attacks, courts in Florida have held that a swimmer's disregard of "No Swimming" and other warning signs were the sole cause of the serious injuries.

So, actually , it looks like little legal liability for Disney.

Multiple Disney guests have come out publicly that multiple Disney cast members have referred to these alligators as Disney or resort "pets."

They're as much pets of Disney as the squirrels are in my yard. I don't feed them, give them veterinary care, name them, care for or about them. If I could figure out how to get rid of them so they stop eating the fruits off our fruit trees, I would. Disney isn't taking care of these gators as pets, either, and if they could figure out how to get rid of them, they would.

Yes, we have alligators everywhere in Florida. Every fresh body of water is potentially home to our state reptile...and it is not reasonable to think they should all be removed from whatever body of water - manmade or otherwise - to make room for humans. We moved into their habitat and they have learned to coexist. I do not hold Disney responsible for a 1 in 2.4 million accident, which is what this was. People are attacked by bears and cougars out west when they're out walking their dogs. I don't see much of a difference.

The vast wilderness of the Grand Floridian. Keep your guard up, tourists.

PP, you're nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of people lose their kids under bizarre or tragic circumstances. Somehow they seem to eventually be able to pick up their lives even without multi-million dollar settlements.

f
The settlement will be well less than 10 million, people are throwing out absolutely crazy numbers Willy nilly.

And part of that money will have to be held in trust for the other sibling. The parents and the surviving sibling are going to have split the money, if the wrongful death laws there are like the ones in my jurisdiction.

Any idea why the law works like this? In this case the sibling is only 4. While I'm sure right now she is regressing, having nightmares etc. and may need therapy later on since she'll grow up in a grieving household -- is she really going to be affected for life? How many independent memories will a 4 yr old retain of her 2 yr old brother or the horror that unfolded by the time she is 14 or 20? She'll be able to tell people she had a brother and this is what happened -- but somehow I don't think too many 4 yr old memories stick.

[Anonymous]

I know someone who lost a child in a similar unusual circumstance. They got a settlement of $15m. They live like ordinary rich people. Big house 2nd home lots of material things. But they are very sad also. It has been many years but they still have that sadness. Does not stop the from spending money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of people lose their kids under bizarre or tragic circumstances. Somehow they seem to eventually be able to pick up their lives even without multi-million dollar settlements.

f
The settlement will be well less than 10 million, people are throwing out absolutely crazy numbers Willy nilly.

And part of that money will have to be held in trust for the other sibling. The parents and the surviving sibling are going to have split the money, if the wrongful death laws there are like the ones in my jurisdiction.

Any idea why the law works like this? In this case the sibling is only 4. While I'm sure right now she is regressing, having nightmares etc. and may need therapy later on since she'll grow up in a grieving household -- is she really going to be affected for life? How many independent memories will a 4 yr old retain of her 2 yr old brother or the horror that unfolded by the time she is 14 or 20? She'll be able to tell people she had a brother and this is what happened -- but somehow I don't think too many 4 yr old memories stick.

My oldest remembers a ton from when he was four. My others do not remember as much.

I am sure she will never forget what she witnessed, even if the memories fade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In other suits, Florida laws have been interpreted that property owners are not responsible for wild animal attacks unless they kept them as pets.

Also, from an earlier article posted, when it comes to alligator attacks, courts in Florida have held that a swimmer's disregard of "No Swimming" and other warning signs were the sole cause of the serious injuries.

So, actually , it looks like little legal liability for Disney.

Multiple Disney guests have come out publicly that multiple Disney cast members have referred to these alligators as Disney or resort "pets."

They're as much pets of Disney as the squirrels are in my yard. I don't feed them, give them veterinary care, name them, care for or about them. If I could figure out how to get rid of them so they stop eating the fruits off our fruit trees, I would. Disney isn't taking care of these gators as pets, either, and if they could figure out how to get rid of them, they would.

Yes, we have alligators everywhere in Florida. Every fresh body of water is potentially home to our state reptile...and it is not reasonable to think they should all be removed from whatever body of water - manmade or otherwise - to make room for humans. We moved into their habitat and they have learned to coexist. I do not hold Disney responsible for a 1 in 2.4 million accident, which is what this was. People are attacked by bears and cougars out west when they're out walking their dogs. I don't see much of a difference.

Sigh. You don't get it.

Not pp, but disagree. You can't litigate wild life out of existence and sometimes there are tragic accidents. Apparently not being able to control that risk is super scary for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In other suits, Florida laws have been interpreted that property owners are not responsible for wild animal attacks unless they kept them as pets.

Also, from an earlier article posted, when it comes to alligator attacks, courts in Florida have held that a swimmer's disregard of "No Swimming" and other warning signs were the sole cause of the serious injuries.

So, actually , it looks like little legal liability for Disney.

Multiple Disney guests have come out publicly that multiple Disney cast members have referred to these alligators as Disney or resort "pets."

They're as much pets of Disney as the squirrels are in my yard. I don't feed them, give them veterinary care, name them, care for or about them. If I could figure out how to get rid of them so they stop eating the fruits off our fruit trees, I would. Disney isn't taking care of these gators as pets, either, and if they could figure out how to get rid of them, they would.

Yes, we have alligators everywhere in Florida. Every fresh body of water is potentially home to our state reptile...and it is not reasonable to think they should all be removed from whatever body of water - manmade or otherwise - to make room for humans. We moved into their habitat and they have learned to coexist. I do not hold Disney responsible for a 1 in 2.4 million accident, which is what this was. People are attacked by bears and cougars out west when they're out walking their dogs. I don't see much of a difference.

The vast wilderness of the Grand Floridian. Keep your guard up, tourists.

PP, you're nuts.

The Grand Floridan is in the middle of a swamp, as is all of disney world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In other suits, Florida laws have been interpreted that property owners are not responsible for wild animal attacks unless they kept them as pets.

Also, from an earlier article posted, when it comes to alligator attacks, courts in Florida have held that a swimmer's disregard of "No Swimming" and other warning signs were the sole cause of the serious injuries.

So, actually , it looks like little legal liability for Disney.

Multiple Disney guests have come out publicly that multiple Disney cast members have referred to these alligators as Disney or resort "pets."

They're as much pets of Disney as the squirrels are in my yard. I don't feed them, give them veterinary care, name them, care for or about them. If I could figure out how to get rid of them so they stop eating the fruits off our fruit trees, I would. Disney isn't taking care of these gators as pets, either, and if they could figure out how to get rid of them, they would.

Yes, we have alligators everywhere in Florida. Every fresh body of water is potentially home to our state reptile...and it is not reasonable to think they should all be removed from whatever body of water - manmade or otherwise - to make room for humans. We moved into their habitat and they have learned to coexist. I do not hold Disney responsible for a 1 in 2.4 million accident, which is what this was. People are attacked by bears and cougars out west when they're out walking their dogs. I don't see much of a difference.

The vast wilderness of the Grand Floridian. Keep your guard up, tourists.

PP, you're nuts.

The Grand Floridan is in the middle of a swamp, as is all of disney world.

People who aren't from Florida aren't necessarily aware of this, given that we dont live in swamps and given that Disney is such an artificial and controlled environment. So a warning/reminder/whatever you want to call it is helpful.

[Anonymous]

And tourists don't know that. After all.. That lagoon was made by Disney.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In other suits, Florida laws have been interpreted that property owners are not responsible for wild animal attacks unless they kept them as pets.

Also, from an earlier article posted, when it comes to alligator attacks, courts in Florida have held that a swimmer's disregard of "No Swimming" and other warning signs were the sole cause of the serious injuries.

So, actually , it looks like little legal liability for Disney.

Multiple Disney guests have come out publicly that multiple Disney cast members have referred to these alligators as Disney or resort "pets."

They're as much pets of Disney as the squirrels are in my yard. I don't feed them, give them veterinary care, name them, care for or about them. If I could figure out how to get rid of them so they stop eating the fruits off our fruit trees, I would. Disney isn't taking care of these gators as pets, either, and if they could figure out how to get rid of them, they would.

Yes, we have alligators everywhere in Florida. Every fresh body of water is potentially home to our state reptile...and it is not reasonable to think they should all be removed from whatever body of water - manmade or otherwise - to make room for humans. We moved into their habitat and they have learned to coexist. I do not hold Disney responsible for a 1 in 2.4 million accident, which is what this was. People are attacked by bears and cougars out west when they're out walking their dogs. I don't see much of a difference.

The vast wilderness of the Grand Floridian. Keep your guard up, tourists.

PP, you're nuts.

The Grand Floridan is in the middle of a swamp, as is all of disney world.

People who aren't from Florida aren't necessarily aware of this, given that we dont live in swamps and given that Disney is such an artificial and controlled environment. So a warning/reminder/whatever you want to call it is helpful.

I like you, whoever you are.

[Anonymous]

Yes, we have alligators everywhere in Florida. Every fresh body of water is potentially home to our state reptile...

I know this, because I have spent a lot of time in Florida because my in-laws live near St. Pete. Every single body of freshwater that I have ever seen there has alligator warning signs. In parks, in HOAs, by the side of the road - every one. I have not stayed at the Grand Floridian but I have walked by this area Before, and I find it very strange that this is seemingly one of the only bodies of fresh water in the state of Florida that does not have signs warning about alligators.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, we have alligators everywhere in Florida. Every fresh body of water is potentially home to our state reptile...

I know this, because I have spent a lot of time in Florida because my in-laws live near St. Pete. Every single body of freshwater that I have ever seen there has alligator warning signs. In parks, in HOAs, by the side of the road - every one. I have not stayed at the Grand Floridian but I have walked by this area Before, and I find it very strange that this is seemingly one of the only bodies of fresh water in the state of Florida that does not have signs warning about alligators.

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Yes exactly. You'd think a place dedicated to the fun of young families would have signs. It's a pretty clear cut argument. Anyone who argues differently is in another universe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, we have alligators everywhere in Florida. Every fresh body of water is potentially home to our state reptile...

I know this, because I have spent a lot of time in Florida because my in-laws live near St. Pete. Every single body of freshwater that I have ever seen there has alligator warning signs. In parks, in HOAs, by the side of the road - every one. I have not stayed at the Grand Floridian but I have walked by this area Before, and I find it very strange that this is seemingly one of the only bodies of fresh water in the state of Florida that does not have signs warning about alligators.

So have I, as my mom is a native Floridian and I rarely have seen signs. There is no way you have seen them in every body of water because they don't exist.