Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every time someone says option 3 is a possibility I go take the survey again, using a different vpn.

Are you under the impression this survey is some sort of opportunity to vote and that the BOE will just choose what people "vote" for?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've heard people here say that these are just initial options, each focused on meeting just one of the four factors, and that we could get completely different maps come fall. But it seems to me that they won't be compeltely different -- maybe they will remove option 3 that so many dislike, but then they'll try to add more diversity into options 1, 2, and 4. It doesn't feel like we're going to get something wholly different. That means that people who don't like any of these maps aren't going to be happy come fall either.

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MCPS is not going to magically come up with totally different options. It will be silght variations of options 1-4. MCPS has already said that these 4 options and any future options can be approved by BOE. So even if more options are thrown in next round, hardly means that something close to option 3 won't be approved.

You are correct in concluding that any option is not going to be a happy ending for most who are unhappy right now.

DP of course people are going to be unhappy. It's a boundary study! And a big one at that. There is no scenario that would make everyone happy because the only way to do that is to keep everyone at their current schools and at the same time eliminate overcrowding. That is not possible without creating some kind of alternate universe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, I don’t even know why DCC schools want W kids in their schools so badly. The kids are quite nice but can be entitled and anxious at the same time, without even realizing it. Many are very rich, some just regular rich, and think everyone else is too.

Many of the parents are cut throat and will take over PTSA/booster etc. They will not tolerate poor behavior/bullying from other students or poor teaching and their definition of that is different than yours. Many of them won’t stop until your kid is shipped off to another school.

I could go on and on but I know this is stereotyping. It’s just that I’ve seen it a lot over the years.

I do not think it is the parents pushing for this. It is BOE members who see the disparities in the high school experience because of the concentration of poverty in certain schools, which exacerbates the achievement gap (yes, school conditions impact academic achievement, who knew?) and that makes them look bad. Pumping money into those schools can only achieve so much.

Part of the achievement gap is not all kids have access to all classes, including AP. Our school actively discourages advanced math and science and it's frustrating as some of the feeder schools start Algebra in 6th, so kids are out of math options come 11/12th grades and it's a graduation requirement. They cannot stay competitive. They claim not enough kids want to take it. Kids don't have the option so if they can they lottery to other schools. They could offer it, but the principals choose not to.

Kids who do algebra in 6th are not out of math options - there is AP Calc A/b, AP calc BC, AP stats.
Even if your child does algebra in 6 they are only at precalc in 9th and may want to do an honors in 10th before AP.

If your child runs out of AP math options at their school, theu can get college credit doing math classes at MC - if transportation is a problem, Montgomery College classes can be taken online.

- signed a mom whose child took algebra in 6th at s school with a FARMS rate over 50% in the DCC area (by choice we live in RM cluster but chose a special program that I guess most Churchill and Wootton parents didnt want to pick)

Mc is only an option if you can do evening classes which some kids cannot due to activities. Your math is off as you do calc bc in 10th which leaves two years of math. Ap stats is good but not for future stem majors alone. They want Mv if possible.

My math is not off as I said my kid did algebra in 6th.

7 - geometry
8 - algebra 2
9 - precalc
10 - calc AB
11 - calc bc
12 - AP stats or a class at MC - kids can take a morning /school hour MC class they dont have to do after school or evening

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, I don’t even know why DCC schools want W kids in their schools so badly. The kids are quite nice but can be entitled and anxious at the same time, without even realizing it. Many are very rich, some just regular rich, and think everyone else is too.

Many of the parents are cut throat and will take over PTSA/booster etc. They will not tolerate poor behavior/bullying from other students or poor teaching and their definition of that is different than yours. Many of them won’t stop until your kid is shipped off to another school.

I could go on and on but I know this is stereotyping. It’s just that I’ve seen it a lot over the years.

I do not think it is the parents pushing for this. It is BOE members who see the disparities in the high school experience because of the concentration of poverty in certain schools, which exacerbates the achievement gap (yes, school conditions impact academic achievement, who knew?) and that makes them look bad. Pumping money into those schools can only achieve so much.

Part of the achievement gap is not all kids have access to all classes, including AP. Our school actively discourages advanced math and science and it's frustrating as some of the feeder schools start Algebra in 6th, so kids are out of math options come 11/12th grades and it's a graduation requirement. They cannot stay competitive. They claim not enough kids want to take it. Kids don't have the option so if they can they lottery to other schools. They could offer it, but the principals choose not to.

Kids who do algebra in 6th are not out of math options - there is AP Calc A/b, AP calc BC, AP stats.
Even if your child does algebra in 6 they are only at precalc in 9th and may want to do an honors in 10th before AP.

If your child runs out of AP math options at their school, theu can get college credit doing math classes at MC - if transportation is a problem, Montgomery College classes can be taken online.

- signed a mom whose child took algebra in 6th at s school with a FARMS rate over 50% in the DCC area (by choice we live in RM cluster but chose a special program that I guess most Churchill and Wootton parents didnt want to pick)

Mc is only an option if you can do evening classes which some kids cannot due to activities. Your math is off as you do calc bc in 10th which leaves two years of math. Ap stats is good but not for future stem majors alone. They want Mv if possible.

My math is not off as I said my kid did algebra in 6th.

7 - geometry
8 - algebra 2
9 - precalc
10 - calc AB
11 - calc bc
12 - AP stats or a class at MC - kids can take a morning /school hour MC class they dont have to do after school or evening

Ok, that makes sense if your kid slowed things down, but not all kids want to do that and take AB and BC. BC is just a few more chapters of content. MC doesn't work in 11th with a full schedule.

[Anonymous]

Can we stick to the topic of Woodward boundary study options please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we stick to the topic of Woodward boundary study options please?

Impossible with this group.

[Anonymous]

Focus people, focus!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is stupid. HS equity in a school system this large is not realistic. There’s a lot of socioeconomic disparity in spread apart parts of the county and artificially attempting to undo what has happened organically leads to long bus rides and kids not going to school with people who live right by them.

Brown v. Board of Ed was over 70 years ago. While a righteous goal, you can’t gerrymander your way out of racial, religious, and economic realities of neighborhoods people choose to live based on their economic means and free will choices of people they want to live by. This is a reality of capitalism and a diverse country.

I’m all for recognizing systemic disparities in our country and disagree with SCOTUS ending affirmative action. Invest in resources, give opportunities, etc. But there’s limits to what you can do to public schools based on geography. It results in absurdities and when stuff like this gets taken too far, helps get people like Trump elected.

I agree with this 100%. Make this person head of the school board.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we stick to the topic of Woodward boundary study options please?

The discussion is about the boundaries as not all schools are equal.

[Anonymous]

Your kids will be fine! Bethesda to downtown SS is really not very far. Kids adapt and adjust.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your kids will be fine! Bethesda to downtown SS is really not very far. Kids adapt and adjust.

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Kids will be fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your kids will be fine! Bethesda to downtown SS is really not very far. Kids adapt and adjust.

Is that option 3? Where is Bethesda being bused to downtown SS? What HS is in downtown SS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every time someone says option 3 is a possibility I go take the survey again, using a different vpn.

Are you under the impression this survey is some sort of opportunity to vote and that the BOE will just choose what people "vote" for?

I don’t really care. I understand that every should look out for their own children bc there is no thought towards others. I don’t trust the schools to listen to community members.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every time someone says option 3 is a possibility I go take the survey again, using a different vpn.

Are you under the impression this survey is some sort of opportunity to vote and that the BOE will just choose what people "vote" for?

Why would you discourage civic engagement?

[Anonymous]

Who on the BOE would vociferously support Option 3 and is it the Apple ballot?