Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, I don’t even know why DCC schools want W kids in their schools so badly. The kids are quite nice but can be entitled and anxious at the same time, without even realizing it. Many are very rich, some just regular rich, and think everyone else is too.

Many of the parents are cut throat and will take over PTSA/booster etc. They will not tolerate poor behavior/bullying from other students or poor teaching and their definition of that is different than yours. Many of them won’t stop until your kid is shipped off to another school.

I could go on and on but I know this is stereotyping. It’s just that I’ve seen it a lot over the years.

I do not think it is the parents pushing for this. It is BOE members who see the disparities in the high school experience because of the concentration of poverty in certain schools, which exacerbates the achievement gap (yes, school conditions impact academic achievement, who knew?) and that makes them look bad. Pumping money into those schools can only achieve so much.

Part of the achievement gap is not all kids have access to all classes, including AP. Our school actively discourages advanced math and science and it's frustrating as some of the feeder schools start Algebra in 6th, so kids are out of math options come 11/12th grades and it's a graduation requirement. They cannot stay competitive. They claim not enough kids want to take it. Kids don't have the option so if they can they lottery to other schools. They could offer it, but the principals choose not to.

Kids who do algebra in 6th are not out of math options - there is AP Calc A/b, AP calc BC, AP stats.
Even if your child does algebra in 6 they are only at precalc in 9th and may want to do an honors in 10th before AP.

If your child runs out of AP math options at their school, theu can get college credit doing math classes at MC - if transportation is a problem, Montgomery College classes can be taken online.

- signed a mom whose child took algebra in 6th at s school with a FARMS rate over 50% in the DCC area (by choice we live in RM cluster but chose a special program that I guess most Churchill and Wootton parents didnt want to pick)

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, I don’t even know why DCC schools want W kids in their schools so badly. The kids are quite nice but can be entitled and anxious at the same time, without even realizing it. Many are very rich, some just regular rich, and think everyone else is too.

Many of the parents are cut throat and will take over PTSA/booster etc. They will not tolerate poor behavior/bullying from other students or poor teaching and their definition of that is different than yours. Many of them won’t stop until your kid is shipped off to another school.

I could go on and on but I know this is stereotyping. It’s just that I’ve seen it a lot over the years.

What? Where did you get that idea?

Yeah, I’m not hearing any DCC parents say that IRL and DCC teachers certainly aren’t jonesing for W students or their parents.

What makes you think we are all poor and want to be at W schools?

If you’re in the DCC odds are you are a poor. I would definitely send my kid to private if I lived in one of the nicer DCC areas like Woodside, Woodside Park or certain areas of Takoma Park.

Basically no one on this website is poor. There are definitely poor families in the DCC, but none of them are in this conversation. You're talking to middle class parents of which the DCC also has a lot.

In the DCC you have
- families with low incomes living in multifamily housing or sharing SFHs with other families
- middle class parents
- high income families ($300k HHI+ or at least double the area median income). Some of these send their kids to private, but I definitely know some people with nice houses ($800k+) that send their kids to public including MS and HS, and no not just the magnet programs.

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Some people in Ashburton, Wyngate area and living in old houses in Bethesda you are at the same level as some of the UMC families in the DCC. Tge difference is you are prob. house poor whereas we have more disposable income.. there are plenty of well off UMC in SS. We just don’t talk about it and yes we chose to live here! Love my neighborhood school with down to earth, smart kids and happy teachers who don’t have to deal with snotty entitled neurotic parents and kids.

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Also plenty of people in Bethesda live in apartments and there is low income housing there too like the Fields..

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Anonymous wrote:I think we’ve lost the thread again.

I think option 2 is probably the betting favorite.

How do we feel about split articulations?

I’m more concerned that the kids who had online kindergarten will get screwed again in MS. They’ll go to one building for 6th grade and then have to move for 7th grade.

+1

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“Ah the old “the people on the poor side of town are really the rich ones and they chose not to move there sour grapes argument”.

Sure some of the nicest homes in the DCC stretch into Whitman starter home prices but it would take quite a bit of humility to go from the richest person on a block to the poorest which I’m guessing the type of person who feels the need to respond on anonymous forum and establish they aren’t poor doesn’t possess.”

Chef’s kiss! Preach.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think we’ve lost the thread again.

I think option 2 is probably the betting favorite.

How do we feel about split articulations?

I’m more concerned that the kids who had online kindergarten will get screwed again in MS. They’ll go to one building for 6th grade and then have to move for 7th grade.

+1

Has to happen to someone. There’s no perfect way to do this so let’s just rip the band aid off. Our kids will be fine. They’ll have friends from multiple schools and will stay with plenty of friends from elementary school.

This is my kid fwiw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, I don’t even know why DCC schools want W kids in their schools so badly. The kids are quite nice but can be entitled and anxious at the same time, without even realizing it. Many are very rich, some just regular rich, and think everyone else is too.

Many of the parents are cut throat and will take over PTSA/booster etc. They will not tolerate poor behavior/bullying from other students or poor teaching and their definition of that is different than yours. Many of them won’t stop until your kid is shipped off to another school.

I could go on and on but I know this is stereotyping. It’s just that I’ve seen it a lot over the years.

I do not think it is the parents pushing for this. It is BOE members who see the disparities in the high school experience because of the concentration of poverty in certain schools, which exacerbates the achievement gap (yes, school conditions impact academic achievement, who knew?) and that makes them look bad. Pumping money into those schools can only achieve so much.

Part of the achievement gap is not all kids have access to all classes, including AP. Our school actively discourages advanced math and science and it's frustrating as some of the feeder schools start Algebra in 6th, so kids are out of math options come 11/12th grades and it's a graduation requirement. They cannot stay competitive. They claim not enough kids want to take it. Kids don't have the option so if they can they lottery to other schools. They could offer it, but the principals choose not to.

Kids who do algebra in 6th are not out of math options - there is AP Calc A/b, AP calc BC, AP stats.
Even if your child does algebra in 6 they are only at precalc in 9th and may want to do an honors in 10th before AP.

If your child runs out of AP math options at their school, theu can get college credit doing math classes at MC - if transportation is a problem, Montgomery College classes can be taken online.

- signed a mom whose child took algebra in 6th at s school with a FARMS rate over 50% in the DCC area (by choice we live in RM cluster but chose a special program that I guess most Churchill and Wootton parents didnt want to pick)

Mc is only an option if you can do evening classes which some kids cannot due to activities. Your math is off as you do calc bc in 10th which leaves two years of math. Ap stats is good but not for future stem majors alone. They want Mv if possible.

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Anonymous wrote:“Ah the old “the people on the poor side of town are really the rich ones and they chose not to move there sour grapes argument”.

Sure some of the nicest homes in the DCC stretch into Whitman starter home prices but it would take quite a bit of humility to go from the richest person on a block to the poorest which I’m guessing the type of person who feels the need to respond on anonymous forum and establish they aren’t poor doesn’t possess.”

Chef’s kiss! Preach.

That assumes we want to move there. Location wise for us moving to Whitman would suck. Housing prices have gone way up and there are lots of dcc houses worth more than basic Whitman homes. I also don’t want the Whitman vibe.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, I don’t even know why DCC schools want W kids in their schools so badly. The kids are quite nice but can be entitled and anxious at the same time, without even realizing it. Many are very rich, some just regular rich, and think everyone else is too.

Many of the parents are cut throat and will take over PTSA/booster etc. They will not tolerate poor behavior/bullying from other students or poor teaching and their definition of that is different than yours. Many of them won’t stop until your kid is shipped off to another school.

I could go on and on but I know this is stereotyping. It’s just that I’ve seen it a lot over the years.

What? Where did you get that idea?

Yeah, I’m not hearing any DCC parents say that IRL and DCC teachers certainly aren’t jonesing for W students or their parents.

What makes you think we are all poor and want to be at W schools?

If you’re in the DCC odds are you are a poor. I would definitely send my kid to private if I lived in one of the nicer DCC areas like Woodside, Woodside Park or certain areas of Takoma Park.

Basically no one on this website is poor. There are definitely poor families in the DCC, but none of them are in this conversation. You're talking to middle class parents of which the DCC also has a lot.

In the DCC you have
- families with low incomes living in multifamily housing or sharing SFHs with other families
- middle class parents
- high income families ($300k HHI+ or at least double the area median income). Some of these send their kids to private, but I definitely know some people with nice houses ($800k+) that send their kids to public including MS and HS, and no not just the magnet programs.

Should me on that income also keep their lower priced homes like we did to have financial freedom. We aren’t sending kids to privates as we did not think the academics were better when we looked.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, I don’t even know why DCC schools want W kids in their schools so badly. The kids are quite nice but can be entitled and anxious at the same time, without even realizing it. Many are very rich, some just regular rich, and think everyone else is too.

Many of the parents are cut throat and will take over PTSA/booster etc. They will not tolerate poor behavior/bullying from other students or poor teaching and their definition of that is different than yours. Many of them won’t stop until your kid is shipped off to another school.

I could go on and on but I know this is stereotyping. It’s just that I’ve seen it a lot over the years.

What? Where did you get that idea?

Yeah, I’m not hearing any DCC parents say that IRL and DCC teachers certainly aren’t jonesing for W students or their parents.

What makes you think we are all poor and want to be at W schools?

If you’re in the DCC odds are you are a poor. I would definitely send my kid to private if I lived in one of the nicer DCC areas like Woodside, Woodside Park or certain areas of Takoma Park.

Basically no one on this website is poor. There are definitely poor families in the DCC, but none of them are in this conversation. You're talking to middle class parents of which the DCC also has a lot.

In the DCC you have
- families with low incomes living in multifamily housing or sharing SFHs with other families
- middle class parents
- high income families ($300k HHI+ or at least double the area median income). Some of these send their kids to private, but I definitely know some people with nice houses ($800k+) that send their kids to public including MS and HS, and no not just the magnet programs.

Should me on that income also keep their lower priced homes like we did to have financial freedom. We aren’t sending kids to privates as we did not think the academics were better when we looked.

Some keep. You’d never think that some of us are doing well in our neighborhood by our houses but we are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we’ve lost the thread again.

I think option 2 is probably the betting favorite.

How do we feel about split articulations?

I’m more concerned that the kids who had online kindergarten will get screwed again in MS. They’ll go to one building for 6th grade and then have to move for 7th grade.

Most kids don’t remember k. In the dcc it’s normal to have those transitions. Your kids will be fine.

I agree. I have one of those virtual kindergarten kids. K was a tough year for us, but she has built plenty of social skills since then. She handle changing schools in 7th grade. It will also be easier because she will change schools with her whole elementary school cohort. That includes all of her neighborhood friends. Options 1, 2 and 4 are fine. Option 3 would send her to a very inconveniently located middle and high school. That would be much more frustrating, but I’m hopeful that my kid could handle it too. Convenience is an important part of the public school experience.

It’s not a big deal. One of mine skipped k, was in a private for a few years before MCPS in 2nd and then was virtual a few years. Far more changes than yours. The distance is an issue with sports and activities as often the kids have to go at night so they come home and go back or have 12-14 hour days at school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we’ve lost the thread again.

I think option 2 is probably the betting favorite.

How do we feel about split articulations?

I’m more concerned that the kids who had online kindergarten will get screwed again in MS. They’ll go to one building for 6th grade and then have to move for 7th grade.

Most kids don’t remember k. In the dcc it’s normal to have those transitions. Your kids will be fine.

I agree. I have one of those virtual kindergarten kids. K was a tough year for us, but she has built plenty of social skills since then. She handle changing schools in 7th grade. It will also be easier because she will change schools with her whole elementary school cohort. That includes all of her neighborhood friends. Options 1, 2 and 4 are fine. Option 3 would send her to a very inconveniently located middle and high school. That would be much more frustrating, but I’m hopeful that my kid could handle it too. Convenience is an important part of the public school experience.

It’s not a big deal. One of mine skipped k, was in a private for a few years before MCPS in 2nd and then was virtual a few years. Far more changes than yours. The distance is an issue with sports and activities as often the kids have to go at night so they come home and go back or have 12-14 hour days at school.

Yes, so kids and families participate at the high school level, if they have to drive 45 minutes, stuck in traffic, both ways to the high school. Some families (like mine) actually prioritize family dinners. Can’t do that if driving cross county for activities.

Please don’t argue that kids don’t need the activities. That’s the only way into better colleges today, even UMD.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, I don’t even know why DCC schools want W kids in their schools so badly. The kids are quite nice but can be entitled and anxious at the same time, without even realizing it. Many are very rich, some just regular rich, and think everyone else is too.

Many of the parents are cut throat and will take over PTSA/booster etc. They will not tolerate poor behavior/bullying from other students or poor teaching and their definition of that is different than yours. Many of them won’t stop until your kid is shipped off to another school.

I could go on and on but I know this is stereotyping. It’s just that I’ve seen it a lot over the years.

What? Where did you get that idea?

Yeah, I’m not hearing any DCC parents say that IRL and DCC teachers certainly aren’t jonesing for W students or their parents.

What makes you think we are all poor and want to be at W schools?

If you’re in the DCC odds are you are a poor. I would definitely send my kid to private if I lived in one of the nicer DCC areas like Woodside, Woodside Park or certain areas of Takoma Park.

Basically no one on this website is poor. There are definitely poor families in the DCC, but none of them are in this conversation. You're talking to middle class parents of which the DCC also has a lot.

In the DCC you have
- families with low incomes living in multifamily housing or sharing SFHs with other families
- middle class parents
- high income families ($300k HHI+ or at least double the area median income). Some of these send their kids to private, but I definitely know some people with nice houses ($800k+) that send their kids to public including MS and HS, and no not just the magnet programs.

Should me on that income also keep their lower priced homes like we did to have financial freedom. We aren’t sending kids to privates as we did not think the academics were better when we looked.

Agree and I realize what I wrote above implies that the high income families all live in expensive houses. Actually DH and I are high income and our house is worth about $600k. Most people in our neighborhood live in fairly small houses. I don't know all their incomes. I suspect many are closer to a $200k HHI (some of these have a SAHP) which I consider borderline middle class. But the ones in the massive brand new construction are definitely high income.

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Anonymous wrote:“Ah the old “the people on the poor side of town are really the rich ones and they chose not to move there sour grapes argument”.

Sure some of the nicest homes in the DCC stretch into Whitman starter home prices but it would take quite a bit of humility to go from the richest person on a block to the poorest which I’m guessing the type of person who feels the need to respond on anonymous forum and establish they aren’t poor doesn’t possess.”

Chef’s kiss! Preach.

Sounds like people accurately describing their neighborhoods and incomes is very triggering for you. Are you sad you have to work until 70?