ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

Well what we think does not matter? What USSF thinks is all that matters. They do not want to change back the age mandates. So more than likely nothing will change. You can make as many “valid” points as you want.

The USSF has a mob at their front door, pretty sure they know that. Money flows up in US youth soccer. They will be ignoring or deflecting at their own peril.

ECNL already hinted in its podcast that they can make the change themselves. They want to play nice and give other leagues a time window to change if they want. No matter what, ECNL will announce the change in November before the S. CA clubs' younger tryouts.

This is like Trump saying he has all the votes. He doesn’t have the votes.

I knew it democrats for BY. That’s why their arguments make no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

Well what we think does not matter? What USSF thinks is all that matters. They do not want to change back the age mandates. So more than likely nothing will change. You can make as many “valid” points as you want.

The USSF has a mob at their front door, pretty sure they know that. Money flows up in US youth soccer. They will be ignoring or deflecting at their own peril.

ECNL already hinted in its podcast that they can make the change themselves. They want to play nice and give other leagues a time window to change if they want. No matter what, ECNL will announce the change in November before the S. CA clubs' younger tryouts.

I don’t think they will do it. As much as it makes sense for them. Idk if they will give the middle finger to everyone else.

Really? Is MLS Next using biobanding giving the middle finger to everyone else? Why would another league care what ECNL does in this context?

Bio banding is for a limited number of players per team so not as disruptive as full on structural change in age policy.

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Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

Well what we think does not matter? What USSF thinks is all that matters. They do not want to change back the age mandates. So more than likely nothing will change. You can make as many “valid” points as you want.

The USSF has a mob at their front door, pretty sure they know that. Money flows up in US youth soccer. They will be ignoring or deflecting at their own peril.

ECNL already hinted in its podcast that they can make the change themselves. They want to play nice and give other leagues a time window to change if they want. No matter what, ECNL will announce the change in November before the S. CA clubs' younger tryouts.

This is like Trump saying he has all the votes. He doesn’t have the votes.

If trump wins and they change to grad year are you going to move to communist Canada. They could use more people like you.

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125 pages can we all just wait until there is an actual announcement or not.....

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that before Thanksgiving, ECNL will announce that it will change the School Year with a new cutoff of 8/1 to 7/31, regardless of whether other leagues change or not.

The impact is minimal, as 95% of games are already between ECNL teams only.

This will help college coach a lot. If GA does not follow through, more players will be recruited from ECNL and cause further player leaving GA.

They’ve already said publicly they are NOT going to do that without the greater majority of youth soccer leagues. If they wanted to change it on their own they could/would have made the announcement by now.

They are waiting to find out if big daddy USSF will let them do what they want.

ECNL will either change to SY or allow a certain number of players to play down. ECNL teams already play exclusively against ECNL teams, so the impact on the outside ECNL will be minimal. The change will come.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

Well what we think does not matter? What USSF thinks is all that matters. They do not want to change back the age mandates. So more than likely nothing will change. You can make as many “valid” points as you want.

The USSF has a mob at their front door, pretty sure they know that. Money flows up in US youth soccer. They will be ignoring or deflecting at their own peril.

ECNL already hinted in its podcast that they can make the change themselves. They want to play nice and give other leagues a time window to change if they want. No matter what, ECNL will announce the change in November before the S. CA clubs' younger tryouts.

I don’t think they will do it. As much as it makes sense for them. Idk if they will give the middle finger to everyone else.

Really? Is MLS Next using biobanding giving the middle finger to everyone else? Why would another league care what ECNL does in this context?

Bio banding is for a limited number of players per team so not as disruptive as full on structural change in age policy.

How would ECNL using SY be disruptive to the rest of youth soccer moreso than MLS Next's biobanding? Youth soccer leagues sure seem like silos, no?

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that before Thanksgiving, ECNL will announce that it will change the School Year with a new cutoff of 8/1 to 7/31, regardless of whether other leagues change or not.

The impact is minimal, as 95% of games are already between ECNL teams only.

This will help college coach a lot. If GA does not follow through, more players will be recruited from ECNL and cause further player leaving GA.

They’ve already said publicly they are NOT going to do that without the greater majority of youth soccer leagues. If they wanted to change it on their own they could/would have made the announcement by now.

They are waiting to find out if big daddy USSF will let them do what they want.

ECNL will either change to SY or allow a certain number of players to play down. ECNL teams already play exclusively against ECNL teams, so the impact on the outside ECNL will be minimal. The change will come.

Remember there are clubs with a combination of ECNL boys and ga girls
ECNL girls mls nect

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that before Thanksgiving, ECNL will announce that it will change the School Year with a new cutoff of 8/1 to 7/31, regardless of whether other leagues change or not.

The impact is minimal, as 95% of games are already between ECNL teams only.

This will help college coach a lot. If GA does not follow through, more players will be recruited from ECNL and cause further player leaving GA.

They’ve already said publicly they are NOT going to do that without the greater majority of youth soccer leagues. If they wanted to change it on their own they could/would have made the announcement by now.

They are waiting to find out if big daddy USSF will let them do what they want.

ECNL will either change to SY or allow a certain number of players to play down. ECNL teams already play exclusively against ECNL teams, so the impact on the outside ECNL will be minimal. The change will come.

Remember there are clubs with a combination of ECNL boys and ga girls
ECNL girls mls nect

So? At tryouts these kids could be on this team or this team but not that team. Just like today.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that before Thanksgiving, ECNL will announce that it will change the School Year with a new cutoff of 8/1 to 7/31, regardless of whether other leagues change or not.

The impact is minimal, as 95% of games are already between ECNL teams only.

This will help college coach a lot. If GA does not follow through, more players will be recruited from ECNL and cause further player leaving GA.

They’ve already said publicly they are NOT going to do that without the greater majority of youth soccer leagues. If they wanted to change it on their own they could/would have made the announcement by now.

They are waiting to find out if big daddy USSF will let them do what they want.

ECNL will either change to SY or allow a certain number of players to play down. ECNL teams already play exclusively against ECNL teams, so the impact on the outside ECNL will be minimal. The change will come.

Remember there are clubs with a combination of ECNL boys and ga girls
ECNL girls mls nect

So? At tryouts these kids could be on this team or this team but not that team. Just like today.

The point I’m making is that ECNL would have to most likely let ECNL girls go if the boys program has mls.

Not sure what they will do with clubs with boys ECNL/girls GA.

Surely clubs don’t want to adopt two separate age mandates

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that before Thanksgiving, ECNL will announce that it will change the School Year with a new cutoff of 8/1 to 7/31, regardless of whether other leagues change or not.

The impact is minimal, as 95% of games are already between ECNL teams only.

This will help college coach a lot. If GA does not follow through, more players will be recruited from ECNL and cause further player leaving GA.

They’ve already said publicly they are NOT going to do that without the greater majority of youth soccer leagues. If they wanted to change it on their own they could/would have made the announcement by now.

They are waiting to find out if big daddy USSF will let them do what they want.

ECNL will either change to SY or allow a certain number of players to play down. ECNL teams already play exclusively against ECNL teams, so the impact on the outside ECNL will be minimal. The change will come.

Remember there are clubs with a combination of ECNL boys and ga girls
ECNL girls mls nect

MLSN already allows boys to bio band and play down. So clubs already understand how to handle it. Shouldn’t be a problem for the girls side.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that before Thanksgiving, ECNL will announce that it will change the School Year with a new cutoff of 8/1 to 7/31, regardless of whether other leagues change or not.

The impact is minimal, as 95% of games are already between ECNL teams only.

This will help college coach a lot. If GA does not follow through, more players will be recruited from ECNL and cause further player leaving GA.

They’ve already said publicly they are NOT going to do that without the greater majority of youth soccer leagues. If they wanted to change it on their own they could/would have made the announcement by now.

They are waiting to find out if big daddy USSF will let them do what they want.

ECNL will either change to SY or allow a certain number of players to play down. ECNL teams already play exclusively against ECNL teams, so the impact on the outside ECNL will be minimal. The change will come.

I guess if no other leagues want to do SY, then ECNL will give teams the option to allow 3/4 players to play down. This will help recruiting. Since MLS already allows something similar in the name of biobanding, there will be no impact on the existing youth soccer world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that before Thanksgiving, ECNL will announce that it will change the School Year with a new cutoff of 8/1 to 7/31, regardless of whether other leagues change or not.

The impact is minimal, as 95% of games are already between ECNL teams only.

This will help college coach a lot. If GA does not follow through, more players will be recruited from ECNL and cause further player leaving GA.

They’ve already said publicly they are NOT going to do that without the greater majority of youth soccer leagues. If they wanted to change it on their own they could/would have made the announcement by now.

They are waiting to find out if big daddy USSF will let them do what they want.

ECNL will either change to SY or allow a certain number of players to play down. ECNL teams already play exclusively against ECNL teams, so the impact on the outside ECNL will be minimal. The change will come.

I guess if no other leagues want to do SY, then ECNL will give teams the option to allow 3/4 players to play down. This will help recruiting. Since MLS already allows something similar in the name of biobanding, there will be no impact on the existing youth soccer world.

This would make the most sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that before Thanksgiving, ECNL will announce that it will change the School Year with a new cutoff of 8/1 to 7/31, regardless of whether other leagues change or not.

The impact is minimal, as 95% of games are already between ECNL teams only.

This will help college coach a lot. If GA does not follow through, more players will be recruited from ECNL and cause further player leaving GA.

They’ve already said publicly they are NOT going to do that without the greater majority of youth soccer leagues. If they wanted to change it on their own they could/would have made the announcement by now.

They are waiting to find out if big daddy USSF will let them do what they want.

ECNL will either change to SY or allow a certain number of players to play down. ECNL teams already play exclusively against ECNL teams, so the impact on the outside ECNL will be minimal. The change will come.

I guess if no other leagues want to do SY, then ECNL will give teams the option to allow 3/4 players to play down. This will help recruiting. Since MLS already allows something similar in the name of biobanding, there will be no impact on the existing youth soccer world.

This would make the most sense.

ECNL already allows players to play down.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that before Thanksgiving, ECNL will announce that it will change the School Year with a new cutoff of 8/1 to 7/31, regardless of whether other leagues change or not.

The impact is minimal, as 95% of games are already between ECNL teams only.

This will help college coach a lot. If GA does not follow through, more players will be recruited from ECNL and cause further player leaving GA.

They’ve already said publicly they are NOT going to do that without the greater majority of youth soccer leagues. If they wanted to change it on their own they could/would have made the announcement by now.

They are waiting to find out if big daddy USSF will let them do what they want.

ECNL will either change to SY or allow a certain number of players to play down. ECNL teams already play exclusively against ECNL teams, so the impact on the outside ECNL will be minimal. The change will come.

I guess if no other leagues want to do SY, then ECNL will give teams the option to allow 3/4 players to play down. This will help recruiting. Since MLS already allows something similar in the name of biobanding, there will be no impact on the existing youth soccer world.

This would make the most sense.

ECNL already allows players to play down.

Here you go stupids...

ECNL 2024-2025 competition rule 2.9.2 states that up to two U15 trapped players can participate in a U14 ECNL competition during their sanctioned high school season. These players can also compete in the same ECNL fixture at U15 through U18/U19, as long as they only play one ECNL competition per day.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that before Thanksgiving, ECNL will announce that it will change the School Year with a new cutoff of 8/1 to 7/31, regardless of whether other leagues change or not.

The impact is minimal, as 95% of games are already between ECNL teams only.

This will help college coach a lot. If GA does not follow through, more players will be recruited from ECNL and cause further player leaving GA.

They’ve already said publicly they are NOT going to do that without the greater majority of youth soccer leagues. If they wanted to change it on their own they could/would have made the announcement by now.

They are waiting to find out if big daddy USSF will let them do what they want.

ECNL will either change to SY or allow a certain number of players to play down. ECNL teams already play exclusively against ECNL teams, so the impact on the outside ECNL will be minimal. The change will come.

I guess if no other leagues want to do SY, then ECNL will give teams the option to allow 3/4 players to play down. This will help recruiting. Since MLS already allows something similar in the name of biobanding, there will be no impact on the existing youth soccer world.

This would make the most sense.

ECNL already allows players to play down.

ECNL allows a few players during the high school season the problem with this is the minority of ECNL is shut down during the high school season. Very limited showcases and most leagues do not play. So really you’re dropping down to play in nothing.