ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

Well what we think does not matter? What USSF thinks is all that matters. They do not want to change back the age mandates. So more than likely nothing will change. You can make as many “valid” points as you want.

The USSF has a mob at their front door, pretty sure they know that. Money flows up in US youth soccer. They will be ignoring or deflecting at their own peril.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The core of the issue for ECNL is NCAA recruiting rules are totally misaligned with Soccer BY rules. And, they are totally aligned with SY rules.

One of them has to give if we are going to fix the mess created 8 years ago..

Would only make sense that ECNL which is a stated college platform (not a pro platform) would want total alignment with NCAA recruiting rules.

There are so many aspects to this that aren't attributable to USSF moving to an international standard in 2016. Some example; Not all states have girls' HS soccer in the same season. Not all ECNL clubs allow their players to play HS soccer. Not all ECNL clubs give girls the spring off and go dark. ECNL has in its policies a fix for trapped seniors, but many clubs don't utilize it.

The NCAA recruiting rules aren't misaligned with Soccer age cut-offs. The NCAA recruiting rules are organized around revenue sports, it has very little to do with soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

Well what we think does not matter? What USSF thinks is all that matters. They do not want to change back the age mandates. So more than likely nothing will change. You can make as many “valid” points as you want.

The USSF has a mob at their front door, pretty sure they know that. Money flows up in US youth soccer. They will be ignoring or deflecting at their own peril.

ECNL parents are like 0.05% of all of youth soccer...there is no mob at their door. This is like the second most First World 90th% issue out there right after avocado toast.

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Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

Well what we think does not matter? What USSF thinks is all that matters. They do not want to change back the age mandates. So more than likely nothing will change. You can make as many “valid” points as you want.

The USSF has a mob at their front door, pretty sure they know that. Money flows up in US youth soccer. They will be ignoring or deflecting at their own peril.

ECNL already hinted in its podcast that they can make the change themselves. They want to play nice and give other leagues a time window to change if they want. No matter what, ECNL will announce the change in November before the S. CA clubs' younger tryouts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe that before Thanksgiving, ECNL will announce that it will change the School Year with a new cutoff of 8/1 to 7/31, regardless of whether other leagues change or not.

The impact is minimal, as 95% of games are already between ECNL teams only.

This will help college coach a lot. If GA does not follow through, more players will be recruited from ECNL and cause further player leaving GA.

They’ve already said publicly they are NOT going to do that without the greater majority of youth soccer leagues. If they wanted to change it on their own they could/would have made the announcement by now.

They are waiting to find out if big daddy USSF will let them do what they want.

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Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

I am specifically requesting that YOU do it. Maybe you did it before in the 120 pages so please cut and paste if you did. I read the USSF PDF. Please point out to me the reasoning that YOU agree with if that is what you are basing your argument on. As a show of good faith I am basing my argument on:

Being a trapped 8th grader that will have a sub optimal season when the majority of team is playing high school.
Having less programming as a junior due to fewer showcases and opportunities to play games.
Having to combine with a new, already established, team, senior year
SY aligns with college recruiting much more so than BY as is evidenced by the VAST majority of college coaches who have come out on the record as saying they prefer SY to BY
At the entry level of soccer, the evidence is clear that kids want to play with their peers and not grade older kids

Now, I will go one further and tell you why I disagree with the rationale of what I have read about the opposition.

IT IS DISRUPTIVE-I agree it is somewhat disruptive but it will be over and done in 6 months. Let's be honest, it wasn't that disruptive when they did it 8 years ago and it wont be that bad now. If this is the best thing for youth soccer, which I believe it is, then it would just be pure laziness not to pull the bandaid off
IT ALIGNS WELL WITH OTHER COUNTRIES-Other countries dont have our college feeder system. They have a totally different structure with youth academies, it is apples and shoe boxes.
IT IS BETTER FOR USYNT AND FOR USWNT-I admit I dont have a clue why people think this
USSF SAID IN THEIR 8 YEAR OLD DOCUMENT THAT THIS WILL SOLVE RAE BECAUSE COACHES WILL BE MORE AWARE OF YOUNGER BIRTH MONTH AND MAKE ALLOWANCES-Well, shockingly, this did not work as it turns out elite coaches dont give a shit about age banding or RAE, they care about winning

So there is my good faith. Your turn.............

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

I am specifically requesting that YOU do it. Maybe you did it before in the 120 pages so please cut and paste if you did. I read the USSF PDF. Please point out to me the reasoning that YOU agree with if that is what you are basing your argument on. As a show of good faith I am basing my argument on:

Being a trapped 8th grader that will have a sub optimal season when the majority of team is playing high school.
Having less programming as a junior due to fewer showcases and opportunities to play games.
Having to combine with a new, already established, team, senior year
SY aligns with college recruiting much more so than BY as is evidenced by the VAST majority of college coaches who have come out on the record as saying they prefer SY to BY
At the entry level of soccer, the evidence is clear that kids want to play with their peers and not grade older kids

Now, I will go one further and tell you why I disagree with the rationale of what I have read about the opposition.

IT IS DISRUPTIVE-I agree it is somewhat disruptive but it will be over and done in 6 months. Let's be honest, it wasn't that disruptive when they did it 8 years ago and it wont be that bad now. If this is the best thing for youth soccer, which I believe it is, then it would just be pure laziness not to pull the bandaid off
IT ALIGNS WELL WITH OTHER COUNTRIES-Other countries dont have our college feeder system. They have a totally different structure with youth academies, it is apples and shoe boxes.
IT IS BETTER FOR USYNT AND FOR USWNT-I admit I dont have a clue why people think this
USSF SAID IN THEIR 8 YEAR OLD DOCUMENT THAT THIS WILL SOLVE RAE BECAUSE COACHES WILL BE MORE AWARE OF YOUNGER BIRTH MONTH AND MAKE ALLOWANCES-Well, shockingly, this did not work as it turns out elite coaches dont give a shit about age banding or RAE, they care about winning

So there is my good faith. Your turn.............

Prepare yourself for repeated conclusions with no explanation. If you press for details, you will be called selfish, dumb, and your kid will be accused of sucking at soccer. Stay strong.

[Anonymous]

This thread is getting worse than Talking Soccer.

There's one maybe two parents that want SY that are posting nonsense over and over likely because they think it will give their kid some kind of advantage.

It won't, and if your kid needs you to change the rules to participate they're just not that good.

Signed, a trapped player parent that starts on a BY team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

I am specifically requesting that YOU do it. Maybe you did it before in the 120 pages so please cut and paste if you did. I read the USSF PDF. Please point out to me the reasoning that YOU agree with if that is what you are basing your argument on. As a show of good faith I am basing my argument on:

Being a trapped 8th grader that will have a sub optimal season when the majority of team is playing high school.
Having less programming as a junior due to fewer showcases and opportunities to play games.
Having to combine with a new, already established, team, senior year
SY aligns with college recruiting much more so than BY as is evidenced by the VAST majority of college coaches who have come out on the record as saying they prefer SY to BY
At the entry level of soccer, the evidence is clear that kids want to play with their peers and not grade older kids

Now, I will go one further and tell you why I disagree with the rationale of what I have read about the opposition.

IT IS DISRUPTIVE-I agree it is somewhat disruptive but it will be over and done in 6 months. Let's be honest, it wasn't that disruptive when they did it 8 years ago and it wont be that bad now. If this is the best thing for youth soccer, which I believe it is, then it would just be pure laziness not to pull the bandaid off
IT ALIGNS WELL WITH OTHER COUNTRIES-Other countries dont have our college feeder system. They have a totally different structure with youth academies, it is apples and shoe boxes.
IT IS BETTER FOR USYNT AND FOR USWNT-I admit I dont have a clue why people think this
USSF SAID IN THEIR 8 YEAR OLD DOCUMENT THAT THIS WILL SOLVE RAE BECAUSE COACHES WILL BE MORE AWARE OF YOUNGER BIRTH MONTH AND MAKE ALLOWANCES-Well, shockingly, this did not work as it turns out elite coaches dont give a shit about age banding or RAE, they care about winning

So there is my good faith. Your turn.............

Prepare yourself for repeated conclusions with no explanation. If you press for details, you will be called selfish, dumb, and your kid will be accused of sucking at soccer. Stay strong.

Yep. See directly above^^^. Took them about 93 seconds to tell me my ID Camp kid is not good at soccer. And still no cogent argument

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is getting worse than Talking Soccer.

There's one maybe two parents that want SY that are posting nonsense over and over likely because they think it will give their kid some kind of advantage.

It won't, and if your kid needs you to change the rules to participate they're just not that good.

Signed, a trapped player parent that starts on a BY team.

Then why do you care? Seriously? Your kid can still play up if they want to. Probably a better bet is that this pure false flag and you have a kid in Q1 that will be moved to RL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is getting worse than Talking Soccer.

There's one maybe two parents that want SY that are posting nonsense over and over likely because they think it will give their kid some kind of advantage.

It won't, and if your kid needs you to change the rules to participate they're just not that good.

Signed, a trapped player parent that starts on a BY team.

So how will a change to SY hurt your player?

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Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

Well what we think does not matter? What USSF thinks is all that matters. They do not want to change back the age mandates. So more than likely nothing will change. You can make as many “valid” points as you want.

The USSF has a mob at their front door, pretty sure they know that. Money flows up in US youth soccer. They will be ignoring or deflecting at their own peril.

ECNL already hinted in its podcast that they can make the change themselves. They want to play nice and give other leagues a time window to change if they want. No matter what, ECNL will announce the change in November before the S. CA clubs' younger tryouts.

I don’t think they will do it. As much as it makes sense for them. Idk if they will give the middle finger to everyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

So how would switching to school dates hurt non-trapped kids?

I’m trying to understand that as well. Who gets hit with anything negative with a switch to school year? Birth year people just say it’s not a disadvantage or disadvantage is part of sport. Which is it? Either way I don’t understand what the negatives would be outside of creating new teams which idk if that’s really a negative either outside personal perception.

The argument isn’t if it’s not broke don’t fix it. The argument BY people make is it’s not broke for my kid so don’t fix it.

That’s the only argument they can make. Because Birth year for non international competition doesn’t make sense for the U.S.A.

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Anonymous wrote:D1 Council is making U19 extremely relevant.

https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

Well what we think does not matter? What USSF thinks is all that matters. They do not want to change back the age mandates. So more than likely nothing will change. You can make as many “valid” points as you want.

The USSF has a mob at their front door, pretty sure they know that. Money flows up in US youth soccer. They will be ignoring or deflecting at their own peril.

ECNL already hinted in its podcast that they can make the change themselves. They want to play nice and give other leagues a time window to change if they want. No matter what, ECNL will announce the change in November before the S. CA clubs' younger tryouts.

I don’t think they will do it. As much as it makes sense for them. Idk if they will give the middle finger to everyone else.

Really? Is MLS Next using biobanding giving the middle finger to everyone else? Why would another league care what ECNL does in this context?

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https://x.com/imyouthsoccer/status/1844029053734416625

No letter of intent means college could drop or add players until the day they step on campus.

It also means players can change colleges up until the day they step on campus (NIL $$$ anyone)

For youth soccer this means senior year showcases and league games just because relevant again.

Would it not be beneficial to go U15-18 with school year cut offs. And for ECNL to add a U19 for college kids who did not get a scholarship? Kids can still goto local college and play soccer and try and get recruited? Have their own showcases? If the ncaa is going to be adding/dropping players. Maybe it helps college to get a kid and have them play an additional year of ECNL rather than waste a roster spot or eligibility?

I know the pro birth year people have something to say about this?…

Birth year people will say that because NCAA just got rid of the Letter of Intent it means that players can no longer slack off their senior year just because they previously committed to a school.

College coaches can continue looking for better players all the way up to the minute their recruits step on campus. It also means that players that have already verbally committed to a college coach can change to a different school up until the day they step on campus.

Either way it means league games and showcases played as a senior in HS suddenly mean much more than they used to.

Trapped players that were Juniors playing with Seniors will get looked at 2x by recruiters their senior year.

If trapped seniors need to find a new team that year, with continued recruiting implications, won't they be freaking out even more than now?

According to trapped parents thinking, this would be the best chance for their superstar player who had their exposure buried by older kids in the same birth year. They will be an all-star beast baller on their senior year team.

Most trapped players are starters on the team they play on. Coaches know the pain Aug to Dec players will go through so they only take the best ones.

For trapped players being a stand out while playing down their senior year won't be difficult. Which is exactly when the playing down coach wants and the club wants.

Alignment makes it all worth it... just don't ask how. Seriously though, this sounds like it would add to the recruiting issues rather than lessen them. Time will tell.

People have explained how. The USSF PDF also covered how. Just because you have a vested interest in maintaining willful ignorance doesn’t mean nobody has attempted to provide you the reasoning in good faith.

Well what we think does not matter? What USSF thinks is all that matters. They do not want to change back the age mandates. So more than likely nothing will change. You can make as many “valid” points as you want.

The USSF has a mob at their front door, pretty sure they know that. Money flows up in US youth soccer. They will be ignoring or deflecting at their own peril.

ECNL already hinted in its podcast that they can make the change themselves. They want to play nice and give other leagues a time window to change if they want. No matter what, ECNL will announce the change in November before the S. CA clubs' younger tryouts.

This is like Trump saying he has all the votes. He doesn’t have the votes.