Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have strong feelings about Meghan, and I am probably sensitive right now given what has gone on in my family during the pandemic, but I don’t like that she kept writing that she lost a child. A family member lost a child this month- the pain of that is nothing compared to a miscarriage. I don’t appreciate that language at all.


+1 An early miscarriage is sad but not the same. I know very few women with kids who haven't had one, and I don't believe there is a stigma about it. Some wanted to discuss it and some didn't, but that had to do with temperament not stigma. That said, after the first trimester is very tough, and Chrissy Teigen lost a child not a fetus.


I agree. I had a miscarriage at 10 weeks and yes, it was very sad, but I'm irritated by everyone comparing her loss to Chrissy Tiegen, who had a stillbirth, and held her baby in her arms.


And Chrissy Tiegen has defended her bc while you posters want to compare levels of miscarriages, other people just want to be sympathetic.


One can be sympathetic to her loss AND still believe penning a PR stunt essay in the NYT is crass given the obvious motive here is to sway public opinion about herself.

She never announced a pregnancy, yet she felt compelled to announce a MC. Why?


You and your tribe of posters aren’t actually sympathetic to her loss. That is pretty clear.

And according to posters on DCUM and the world, miscarriages should be announced in order to take stigma away and to help others going through similar losses. However, it also seems on DCUM, that only certain miscarriages matter and only certain people can announce they’ve suffered one. Oh and now let’s throw in, if you haven’t announced your pregnancy, you cannot announce a miscarriage.


I think you are making some rather misinformed leaps, pp.

I am sympathetic to her loss. I’ve had 3 miscarriages (including one at 11.5 weeks which was the hardest).

I don’t believe there is any stigma related to MC. Stigma would mean women don’t share the loss with anyone out of fear of being judged negatively for what, exactly? Failure to carry full term? I mean, I know there was a stigma for that when queens failed to produce an heir (at least as portrayed on The Tudors and The Spanish Princess), but in the real world nobody judges women for suffering a MC.

Women don’t discuss this casually because it is personal and doesn’t come up in casual conversation—like most health issues. But, women do share this info if they’ve already announced a pregnancy or when it comes up (when a friend shares a MC, women share their own MC stories).

Most women share this info in person. I’ve never seen anyone share it on FB (I didn’t).

Again, women sympathize with MM for her loss. Most of us suffered at least 1 MC ourselves. We get it.

But, this thread isn’t judging the MC or her loss. Rather, it’s a group-cringe about how she penned an essay seemingly under the auspices of swaying public opinion about her.

She would have been better served by simply posting a very short statement on social media.

“Harry and I are saddened to share that our family suffered a miscarriage this summer. Our grief over the loss that so many others have experienced remind us that we are not alone.”

Had she said that—and only that—I think nobody would question her motive, and she would have received nothing but sympathy. For whatever reason, she goes too far and opens herself up to criticism.


Oh please

No matter what she wrote or posted, you and similar posters would’ve made snide and ugly comments. You’re as insufferable and long winded as you claim Meghan is.


Whatever.

I assure you that I am sympathetic for her loss (having suffered three MCs myself). And, my “long winded” response was aimed at dumbing down the nuance for you and others who for whatever reason cannot distinguish the MC from her own actions of penning an essay for the NYT. You are clearly a devoted fan. That’s fine. Carry on.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have strong feelings about Meghan, and I am probably sensitive right now given what has gone on in my family during the pandemic, but I don’t like that she kept writing that she lost a child. A family member lost a child this month- the pain of that is nothing compared to a miscarriage. I don’t appreciate that language at all.


+1 An early miscarriage is sad but not the same. I know very few women with kids who haven't had one, and I don't believe there is a stigma about it. Some wanted to discuss it and some didn't, but that had to do with temperament not stigma. That said, after the first trimester is very tough, and Chrissy Teigen lost a child not a fetus.


I agree. I had a miscarriage at 10 weeks and yes, it was very sad, but I'm irritated by everyone comparing her loss to Chrissy Tiegen, who had a stillbirth, and held her baby in her arms.


And Chrissy Tiegen has defended her bc while you posters want to compare levels of miscarriages, other people just want to be sympathetic.


One can be sympathetic to her loss AND still believe penning a PR stunt essay in the NYT is crass given the obvious motive here is to sway public opinion about herself.

She never announced a pregnancy, yet she felt compelled to announce a MC. Why?


You and your tribe of posters aren’t actually sympathetic to her loss. That is pretty clear.

And according to posters on DCUM and the world, miscarriages should be announced in order to take stigma away and to help others going through similar losses. However, it also seems on DCUM, that only certain miscarriages matter and only certain people can announce they’ve suffered one. Oh and now let’s throw in, if you haven’t announced your pregnancy, you cannot announce a miscarriage.


I think you are making some rather misinformed leaps, pp.

I am sympathetic to her loss. I’ve had 3 miscarriages (including one at 11.5 weeks which was the hardest).

I don’t believe there is any stigma related to MC. Stigma would mean women don’t share the loss with anyone out of fear of being judged negatively for what, exactly? Failure to carry full term? I mean, I know there was a stigma for that when queens failed to produce an heir (at least as portrayed on The Tudors and The Spanish Princess), but in the real world nobody judges women for suffering a MC.

Women don’t discuss this casually because it is personal and doesn’t come up in casual conversation—like most health issues. But, women do share this info if they’ve already announced a pregnancy or when it comes up (when a friend shares a MC, women share their own MC stories).

Most women share this info in person. I’ve never seen anyone share it on FB (I didn’t).

Again, women sympathize with MM for her loss. Most of us suffered at least 1 MC ourselves. We get it.

But, this thread isn’t judging the MC or her loss. Rather, it’s a group-cringe about how she penned an essay seemingly under the auspices of swaying public opinion about her.

She would have been better served by simply posting a very short statement on social media.

“Harry and I are saddened to share that our family suffered a miscarriage this summer. Our grief over the loss that so many others have experienced remind us that we are not alone.”

Had she said that—and only that—I think nobody would question her motive, and she would have received nothing but sympathy. For whatever reason, she goes too far and opens herself up to criticism.


This. Perfectly said.


100% agree. Well said! Also had a miscarriage and this opinion piece got only eye rolls from me. It's over the top, long winded, and is self promoting. As usual.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have strong feelings about Meghan, and I am probably sensitive right now given what has gone on in my family during the pandemic, but I don’t like that she kept writing that she lost a child. A family member lost a child this month- the pain of that is nothing compared to a miscarriage. I don’t appreciate that language at all.


+1 An early miscarriage is sad but not the same. I know very few women with kids who haven't had one, and I don't believe there is a stigma about it. Some wanted to discuss it and some didn't, but that had to do with temperament not stigma. That said, after the first trimester is very tough, and Chrissy Teigen lost a child not a fetus.


I agree. I had a miscarriage at 10 weeks and yes, it was very sad, but I'm irritated by everyone comparing her loss to Chrissy Tiegen, who had a stillbirth, and held her baby in her arms.


And Chrissy Tiegen has defended her bc while you posters want to compare levels of miscarriages, other people just want to be sympathetic.


One can be sympathetic to her loss AND still believe penning a PR stunt essay in the NYT is crass given the obvious motive here is to sway public opinion about herself.

She never announced a pregnancy, yet she felt compelled to announce a MC. Why?


You and your tribe of posters aren’t actually sympathetic to her loss. That is pretty clear.

And according to posters on DCUM and the world, miscarriages should be announced in order to take stigma away and to help others going through similar losses. However, it also seems on DCUM, that only certain miscarriages matter and only certain people can announce they’ve suffered one. Oh and now let’s throw in, if you haven’t announced your pregnancy, you cannot announce a miscarriage.


I think you are making some rather misinformed leaps, pp.

I am sympathetic to her loss. I’ve had 3 miscarriages (including one at 11.5 weeks which was the hardest).

I don’t believe there is any stigma related to MC. Stigma would mean women don’t share the loss with anyone out of fear of being judged negatively for what, exactly? Failure to carry full term? I mean, I know there was a stigma for that when queens failed to produce an heir (at least as portrayed on The Tudors and The Spanish Princess), but in the real world nobody judges women for suffering a MC.

Women don’t discuss this casually because it is personal and doesn’t come up in casual conversation—like most health issues. But, women do share this info if they’ve already announced a pregnancy or when it comes up (when a friend shares a MC, women share their own MC stories).

Most women share this info in person. I’ve never seen anyone share it on FB (I didn’t).

Again, women sympathize with MM for her loss. Most of us suffered at least 1 MC ourselves. We get it.

But, this thread isn’t judging the MC or her loss. Rather, it’s a group-cringe about how she penned an essay seemingly under the auspices of swaying public opinion about her.

She would have been better served by simply posting a very short statement on social media.

“Harry and I are saddened to share that our family suffered a miscarriage this summer. Our grief over the loss that so many others have experienced remind us that we are not alone.”

Had she said that—and only that—I think nobody would question her motive, and she would have received nothing but sympathy. For whatever reason, she goes too far and opens herself up to criticism.


Oh please

No matter what she wrote or posted, you and similar posters would’ve made snide and ugly comments. You’re as insufferable and long winded as you claim Meghan is.


Whatever.

I assure you that I am sympathetic for her loss (having suffered three MCs myself). And, my “long winded” response was aimed at dumbing down the nuance for you and others who for whatever reason cannot distinguish the MC from her own actions of penning an essay for the NYT. You are clearly a devoted fan. That’s fine. Carry on.


Yep, no doubt you are so sympathetic and doing everyone you deem dumber than you a favor. The world is truly blessed. You’re doing fabulous, sweetie.


Do you have anything on topic to add? Did you read the piece? Why did you like it? What was your favorite part? Nothing? Why are you only here to talk about people whose opinion you don't agree with. Is it so hard to stay on topic?
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The people who don’t like the MC essay are not a monolith. I don’t hate MM and have previously been horrified by the vitriol at her on this thread. The first couple times I posted here, multiple people accused me of being a PR flak just because I had mildly nice things to say about her.

And I’m very sorry for her loss. Miscarriage is so hard. I also know the pain of marrying and starting a family later in life and wondering if it’s too late. It’s really tough.

But wow that op-ed bothered me. It just felt so tone-deaf and unaware. There is so much loss and grief in the world right now. Had she posted this to her social media or a general interest outlet, I don’t think I would have reacted this way. But while miscarriage is something we should talk about, it’s not news and it’s not a social problem to solve. It just is. There’s no public policy related to MC that needs to be promoted, no money that needs to be raised to prevent or address MC. They just happen.

It is weird to me that MM had an opportunity to write an op-ed in the NYT, a privilege few are afforded, and she chose to talk about a private grief about which nothing much can be done. And she did it in the middle of a public health emergency and at a time when black maternal mortality is a huge problem in the US.

Tone-deaf.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have strong feelings about Meghan, and I am probably sensitive right now given what has gone on in my family during the pandemic, but I don’t like that she kept writing that she lost a child. A family member lost a child this month- the pain of that is nothing compared to a miscarriage. I don’t appreciate that language at all.


+1 An early miscarriage is sad but not the same. I know very few women with kids who haven't had one, and I don't believe there is a stigma about it. Some wanted to discuss it and some didn't, but that had to do with temperament not stigma. That said, after the first trimester is very tough, and Chrissy Teigen lost a child not a fetus.


I agree. I had a miscarriage at 10 weeks and yes, it was very sad, but I'm irritated by everyone comparing her loss to Chrissy Tiegen, who had a stillbirth, and held her baby in her arms.


And Chrissy Tiegen has defended her bc while you posters want to compare levels of miscarriages, other people just want to be sympathetic.


One can be sympathetic to her loss AND still believe penning a PR stunt essay in the NYT is crass given the obvious motive here is to sway public opinion about herself.

She never announced a pregnancy, yet she felt compelled to announce a MC. Why?


You and your tribe of posters aren’t actually sympathetic to her loss. That is pretty clear.

And according to posters on DCUM and the world, miscarriages should be announced in order to take stigma away and to help others going through similar losses. However, it also seems on DCUM, that only certain miscarriages matter and only certain people can announce they’ve suffered one. Oh and now let’s throw in, if you haven’t announced your pregnancy, you cannot announce a miscarriage.


I think you are making some rather misinformed leaps, pp.

I am sympathetic to her loss. I’ve had 3 miscarriages (including one at 11.5 weeks which was the hardest).

I don’t believe there is any stigma related to MC. Stigma would mean women don’t share the loss with anyone out of fear of being judged negatively for what, exactly? Failure to carry full term? I mean, I know there was a stigma for that when queens failed to produce an heir (at least as portrayed on The Tudors and The Spanish Princess), but in the real world nobody judges women for suffering a MC.

Women don’t discuss this casually because it is personal and doesn’t come up in casual conversation—like most health issues. But, women do share this info if they’ve already announced a pregnancy or when it comes up (when a friend shares a MC, women share their own MC stories).

Most women share this info in person. I’ve never seen anyone share it on FB (I didn’t).

Again, women sympathize with MM for her loss. Most of us suffered at least 1 MC ourselves. We get it.

But, this thread isn’t judging the MC or her loss. Rather, it’s a group-cringe about how she penned an essay seemingly under the auspices of swaying public opinion about her.

She would have been better served by simply posting a very short statement on social media.

“Harry and I are saddened to share that our family suffered a miscarriage this summer. Our grief over the loss that so many others have experienced remind us that we are not alone.”

Had she said that—and only that—I think nobody would question her motive, and she would have received nothing but sympathy. For whatever reason, she goes too far and opens herself up to criticism.


Oh please

No matter what she wrote or posted, you and similar posters would’ve made snide and ugly comments. You’re as insufferable and long winded as you claim Meghan is.


Whatever.

I assure you that I am sympathetic for her loss (having suffered three MCs myself). And, my “long winded” response was aimed at dumbing down the nuance for you and others who for whatever reason cannot distinguish the MC from her own actions of penning an essay for the NYT. You are clearly a devoted fan. That’s fine. Carry on.


Yep, no doubt you are so sympathetic and doing everyone you deem dumber than you a favor. The world is truly blessed. You’re doing fabulous, sweetie.


Do you have anything on topic to add? Did you read the piece? Why did you like it? What was your favorite part? Nothing? Why are you only here to talk about people whose opinion you don't agree with. Is it so hard to stay on topic?


Do you? Or are you only going to ask questions? Is it so hard for you to scroll past what you don’t like? Stop trying to be a hall monitor.


There are rules here about how to participate. Whether you like it or not. I'll just report your posts from now on since you are only here to derail. Bye.
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Anonymous wrote:The people who don’t like the MC essay are not a monolith. I don’t hate MM and have previously been horrified by the vitriol at her on this thread. The first couple times I posted here, multiple people accused me of being a PR flak just because I had mildly nice things to say about her.

And I’m very sorry for her loss. Miscarriage is so hard. I also know the pain of marrying and starting a family later in life and wondering if it’s too late. It’s really tough.

But wow that op-ed bothered me. It just felt so tone-deaf and unaware. There is so much loss and grief in the world right now. Had she posted this to her social media or a general interest outlet, I don’t think I would have reacted this way. But while miscarriage is something we should talk about, it’s not news and it’s not a social problem to solve. It just is. There’s no public policy related to MC that needs to be promoted, no money that needs to be raised to prevent or address MC. They just happen.

It is weird to me that MM had an opportunity to write an op-ed in the NYT, a privilege few are afforded, and she chose to talk about a private grief about which nothing much can be done. And she did it in the middle of a public health emergency and at a time when black maternal mortality is a huge problem in the US.

Tone-deaf.


It’s not just tone-deaf. It’s abundantly apparent the essay was a carefully constructed attempt at swaying public opinion about her. She strategically included BLM, COVID, the election, and a fake story about a sobbing woman and a wise NYC cabbie then tied it back to (wait for it) herself in Africa.

That’s the real issue.

Imagine she hadn’t miscarried and instead used infertility or endometriosis or chronic migraines, etc. The medical issue is irrelevant; it’s the motive behind the essay that is rubbing people the wrong way. It doesn’t read as authentic—far from it.

Had she simply tweeted or posted on Instagram with a short statement solely about the MC, she wouldn’t have prompted criticism. That’s the issue.
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Anonymous wrote:The people who don’t like the MC essay are not a monolith. I don’t hate MM and have previously been horrified by the vitriol at her on this thread. The first couple times I posted here, multiple people accused me of being a PR flak just because I had mildly nice things to say about her.

And I’m very sorry for her loss. Miscarriage is so hard. I also know the pain of marrying and starting a family later in life and wondering if it’s too late. It’s really tough.

But wow that op-ed bothered me. It just felt so tone-deaf and unaware. There is so much loss and grief in the world right now. Had she posted this to her social media or a general interest outlet, I don’t think I would have reacted this way. But while miscarriage is something we should talk about, it’s not news and it’s not a social problem to solve. It just is. There’s no public policy related to MC that needs to be promoted, no money that needs to be raised to prevent or address MC. They just happen.

It is weird to me that MM had an opportunity to write an op-ed in the NYT, a privilege few are afforded, and she chose to talk about a private grief about which nothing much can be done. And she did it in the middle of a public health emergency and at a time when black maternal mortality is a huge problem in the US.

Tone-deaf.


It’s not just tone-deaf. It’s abundantly apparent the essay was a carefully constructed attempt at swaying public opinion about her. She strategically included BLM, COVID, the election, and a fake story about a sobbing woman and a wise NYC cabbie then tied it back to (wait for it) herself in Africa.

That’s the real issue.

Imagine she hadn’t miscarried and instead used infertility or endometriosis or chronic migraines, etc. The medical issue is irrelevant; it’s the motive behind the essay that is rubbing people the wrong way. It doesn’t read as authentic—far from it.

Had she simply tweeted or posted on Instagram with a short statement solely about the MC, she wouldn’t have prompted criticism. That’s the issue.


+1 and her writing is atrocious....it was reminiscent of an overwrought teen in a high school expository writing class.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have strong feelings about Meghan, and I am probably sensitive right now given what has gone on in my family during the pandemic, but I don’t like that she kept writing that she lost a child. A family member lost a child this month- the pain of that is nothing compared to a miscarriage. I don’t appreciate that language at all.


+1 An early miscarriage is sad but not the same. I know very few women with kids who haven't had one, and I don't believe there is a stigma about it. Some wanted to discuss it and some didn't, but that had to do with temperament not stigma. That said, after the first trimester is very tough, and Chrissy Teigen lost a child not a fetus.


I agree. I had a miscarriage at 10 weeks and yes, it was very sad, but I'm irritated by everyone comparing her loss to Chrissy Tiegen, who had a stillbirth, and held her baby in her arms.


And Chrissy Tiegen has defended her bc while you posters want to compare levels of miscarriages, other people just want to be sympathetic.


One can be sympathetic to her loss AND still believe penning a PR stunt essay in the NYT is crass given the obvious motive here is to sway public opinion about herself.

She never announced a pregnancy, yet she felt compelled to announce a MC. Why?


This this this. I am sorry she suffered a miscarriage. I thought her NYT piece was a crying-inducing, self absorbed stunt intended, bizarrely, to self promote. And her writing and tone are so pretentious it’s off putting. Another poster referenced “celebrity-splaining” - and that’s exactly what it was.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have strong feelings about Meghan, and I am probably sensitive right now given what has gone on in my family during the pandemic, but I don’t like that she kept writing that she lost a child. A family member lost a child this month- the pain of that is nothing compared to a miscarriage. I don’t appreciate that language at all.


+1 An early miscarriage is sad but not the same. I know very few women with kids who haven't had one, and I don't believe there is a stigma about it. Some wanted to discuss it and some didn't, but that had to do with temperament not stigma. That said, after the first trimester is very tough, and Chrissy Teigen lost a child not a fetus.


I agree. I had a miscarriage at 10 weeks and yes, it was very sad, but I'm irritated by everyone comparing her loss to Chrissy Tiegen, who had a stillbirth, and held her baby in her arms.


And Chrissy Tiegen has defended her bc while you posters want to compare levels of miscarriages, other people just want to be sympathetic.


One can be sympathetic to her loss AND still believe penning a PR stunt essay in the NYT is crass given the obvious motive here is to sway public opinion about herself.

She never announced a pregnancy, yet she felt compelled to announce a MC. Why?


This this this. I am sorry she suffered a miscarriage. I thought her NYT piece was a crying-inducing, self absorbed stunt intended, bizarrely, to self promote. And her writing and tone are so pretentious it’s off putting. Another poster referenced “celebrity-splaining” - and that’s exactly what it was.


And it was cringe-inducing NOT crying inducing.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have strong feelings about Meghan, and I am probably sensitive right now given what has gone on in my family during the pandemic, but I don’t like that she kept writing that she lost a child. A family member lost a child this month- the pain of that is nothing compared to a miscarriage. I don’t appreciate that language at all.


+1 An early miscarriage is sad but not the same. I know very few women with kids who haven't had one, and I don't believe there is a stigma about it. Some wanted to discuss it and some didn't, but that had to do with temperament not stigma. That said, after the first trimester is very tough, and Chrissy Teigen lost a child not a fetus.


I agree. I had a miscarriage at 10 weeks and yes, it was very sad, but I'm irritated by everyone comparing her loss to Chrissy Tiegen, who had a stillbirth, and held her baby in her arms.


And Chrissy Tiegen has defended her bc while you posters want to compare levels of miscarriages, other people just want to be sympathetic.


One can be sympathetic to her loss AND still believe penning a PR stunt essay in the NYT is crass given the obvious motive here is to sway public opinion about herself.




She is such a brat. Only into herself.

She never announced a pregnancy, yet she felt compelled to announce a MC. Why?


This this this. I am sorry she suffered a miscarriage. I thought her NYT piece was a crying-inducing, self absorbed stunt intended, bizarrely, to self promote. And her writing and tone are so pretentious it’s off putting. Another poster referenced “celebrity-splaining” - and that’s exactly what it was.
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She is such a brat. Only into herself.
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Anonymous wrote:The people who don’t like the MC essay are not a monolith. I don’t hate MM and have previously been horrified by the vitriol at her on this thread. The first couple times I posted here, multiple people accused me of being a PR flak just because I had mildly nice things to say about her.

And I’m very sorry for her loss. Miscarriage is so hard. I also know the pain of marrying and starting a family later in life and wondering if it’s too late. It’s really tough.

But wow that op-ed bothered me. It just felt so tone-deaf and unaware. There is so much loss and grief in the world right now. Had she posted this to her social media or a general interest outlet, I don’t think I would have reacted this way. But while miscarriage is something we should talk about, it’s not news and it’s not a social problem to solve. It just is. There’s no public policy related to MC that needs to be promoted, no money that needs to be raised to prevent or address MC. They just happen.

It is weird to me that MM had an opportunity to write an op-ed in the NYT, a privilege few are afforded, and she chose to talk about a private grief about which nothing much can be done. And she did it in the middle of a public health emergency and at a time when black maternal mortality is a huge problem in the US.

Tone-deaf.


It’s not just tone-deaf. It’s abundantly apparent the essay was a carefully constructed attempt at swaying public opinion about her. She strategically included BLM, COVID, the election, and a fake story about a sobbing woman and a wise NYC cabbie then tied it back to (wait for it) herself in Africa.

That’s the real issue.

Imagine she hadn’t miscarried and instead used infertility or endometriosis or chronic migraines, etc. The medical issue is irrelevant; it’s the motive behind the essay that is rubbing people the wrong way. It doesn’t read as authentic—far from it.

Had she simply tweeted or posted on Instagram with a short statement solely about the MC, she wouldn’t have prompted criticism. That’s the issue.


But the actual public response has been sympathetic. She’s only hated vehemently on DCUM. So who exactly is she trying to sway?
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Anonymous wrote:The people who don’t like the MC essay are not a monolith. I don’t hate MM and have previously been horrified by the vitriol at her on this thread. The first couple times I posted here, multiple people accused me of being a PR flak just because I had mildly nice things to say about her.

And I’m very sorry for her loss. Miscarriage is so hard. I also know the pain of marrying and starting a family later in life and wondering if it’s too late. It’s really tough.

But wow that op-ed bothered me. It just felt so tone-deaf and unaware. There is so much loss and grief in the world right now. Had she posted this to her social media or a general interest outlet, I don’t think I would have reacted this way. But while miscarriage is something we should talk about, it’s not news and it’s not a social problem to solve. It just is. There’s no public policy related to MC that needs to be promoted, no money that needs to be raised to prevent or address MC. They just happen.

It is weird to me that MM had an opportunity to write an op-ed in the NYT, a privilege few are afforded, and she chose to talk about a private grief about which nothing much can be done. And she did it in the middle of a public health emergency and at a time when black maternal mortality is a huge problem in the US.

Tone-deaf.


It’s not just tone-deaf. It’s abundantly apparent the essay was a carefully constructed attempt at swaying public opinion about her. She strategically included BLM, COVID, the election, and a fake story about a sobbing woman and a wise NYC cabbie then tied it back to (wait for it) herself in Africa.

That’s the real issue.

Imagine she hadn’t miscarried and instead used infertility or endometriosis or chronic migraines, etc. The medical issue is irrelevant; it’s the motive behind the essay that is rubbing people the wrong way. It doesn’t read as authentic—far from it.

Had she simply tweeted or posted on Instagram with a short statement solely about the MC, she wouldn’t have prompted criticism. That’s the issue.


But the actual public response has been sympathetic. She’s only hated vehemently on DCUM. So who exactly is she trying to sway?


Public response sure.....what would be the alternative? But you aren't seeing the eye-rolling amongst the millions that she is counting on to buy her crap and if you think it is just people on this site you're dumber than you come across.
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Anonymous wrote:The people who don’t like the MC essay are not a monolith. I don’t hate MM and have previously been horrified by the vitriol at her on this thread. The first couple times I posted here, multiple people accused me of being a PR flak just because I had mildly nice things to say about her.

And I’m very sorry for her loss. Miscarriage is so hard. I also know the pain of marrying and starting a family later in life and wondering if it’s too late. It’s really tough.

But wow that op-ed bothered me. It just felt so tone-deaf and unaware. There is so much loss and grief in the world right now. Had she posted this to her social media or a general interest outlet, I don’t think I would have reacted this way. But while miscarriage is something we should talk about, it’s not news and it’s not a social problem to solve. It just is. There’s no public policy related to MC that needs to be promoted, no money that needs to be raised to prevent or address MC. They just happen.

It is weird to me that MM had an opportunity to write an op-ed in the NYT, a privilege few are afforded, and she chose to talk about a private grief about which nothing much can be done. And she did it in the middle of a public health emergency and at a time when black maternal mortality is a huge problem in the US.

Tone-deaf.


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Well said
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have strong feelings about Meghan, and I am probably sensitive right now given what has gone on in my family during the pandemic, but I don’t like that she kept writing that she lost a child. A family member lost a child this month- the pain of that is nothing compared to a miscarriage. I don’t appreciate that language at all.


+1 An early miscarriage is sad but not the same. I know very few women with kids who haven't had one, and I don't believe there is a stigma about it. Some wanted to discuss it and some didn't, but that had to do with temperament not stigma. That said, after the first trimester is very tough, and Chrissy Teigen lost a child not a fetus.


I agree. I had a miscarriage at 10 weeks and yes, it was very sad, but I'm irritated by everyone comparing her loss to Chrissy Tiegen, who had a stillbirth, and held her baby in her arms.


And Chrissy Tiegen has defended her bc while you posters want to compare levels of miscarriages, other people just want to be sympathetic.


I am PP in this thread who wrote about not liking that Meghan wrote that she ‘lost a child’. I want to be clear I was not comparing levels of miscarriage. I was saying in my family someone lost a child recently (a toddler) and I did not appreciate Meghan’s use of that language because there is no comparison between losing a child and a miscarriage.
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