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Oh, that’s right! Hamas drew first blood in this “Nothing before 10/7 matters or even happened, you stupid gentile!” alternate universe. |
It is a mistake to try to assign a “first” in this conflict. You are correct that Hamas carried out a brutal attack on October 7th, but they didn’t spring into existence on October 6th. https://prospect.org/world/2023-10-20-west-bank-settlements-conflict-gaza/ A very interesting article written by an Israeli author. |
Well, and let’s be clear, Jews have suffered at the hands of Arabs for centuries. So if we’re going to get caught up in who did what and proportional response, Arabs or Palestinians do not have a leg to stand on. But fortunately for the Palestinians most people on the world know very little about history, know even less about Jewish history in the Levant region and the Middle East more broadly, and also hate Jews. Nothing Israel says, shows, does - or Jews for that matter - will be enough. |
Sorry - are you saying Israelis have raped, tortured, mutilated, and murdered Palestinians before 10/7? Or even after? Israelis are now in a war with Gaza - deaths happen in war. Because of Hamas. Beyond bizarre that you can't acknowledge this. |
That's behind a firewall. At any rate, regardless of Jewish settlements, etc. - Israelis have NOT tortured and raped Palestinian women and children. Hamas are monsters. I hope they're eradicated from the face of the earth. |
I bet you're a big #MeToo supporter, amirite? Except when it comes to Jewish women and girls, of course. |
And so the solution is the killing of at least 8,000 children? Is Israel the good guys or not? If you’re the good guys, act like it. If you’re the bad guys— or want to be judged by the standards of the bad guys— stop demanding everyone look at 8,000 dead children and say “yeah that’s fine” because it can’t be done. And a lot of the people refusing to say “yeah that’s fine” about 8,000 dead children? Are Jewish. And they’re being arrested standing up and saying 8,000 dead children isn’t ok. Don’t come out with this nonsense that Jewish people “can’t do enough” when there are people like this saying you’re wrong https://www.commondreams.org/news/chained-to-white-house-fence-jewish-elders-chant-cease-fire-not-genocide |
Good golly, Pidgin. I did get under your antisemitic skin. Mission accomplished. Pidgin character 1. Comments on posters “mastery of the English language” and calls it Pidgin 2. Uses “shill list” here and there 3. Wants to deport dual citizens 4. Uses antisemitic tropes that misinterpret “chosen people, “light upon nations” and “the promised land” to fit his narrative 5. Constantly talks about the world Jewry aka cabal 6. Uses the word Zionism as an accustom and equates it to Nazism 7. States that Israelis are bloodthirsty Has the weirdest way with words, hyper emotional, tangential, and caustic and so on Did I forget something from your playbook? |
The bolded is not true. https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-officer-who-raped-palestinian-was-not-dismissed-for-earlier-sexual-offenses/ |
DP. Once again: Hamas tortured, mutilated, raped, and murdered many women, men, and children. They are fully within their rights to fight back. Where's your condemnation for Hamas? |
Well, look at you! You found one IDF soldier who raped one Palestinian woman - almost six years ago. Bravo? Now tell us all about the dozens of Israeli women Hamas brutally mutilated, raped and/or murdered. Read this (if you dare) and then get back to us, you utter moron. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181 |
You didn’t read the article did you? “The officer was found to have raped one Palestinian woman, who had come to him to receive a permit to work in Israel, on at least two occasions. He also repeatedly sexually harassed her, trying to get her to have sex with other people as well. The military court, based in part on audio recordings that the woman made, determined that in the first instance of rape, the officer had forced her to have sex with him and then made her clean up the floor afterwards, before giving her the work permit. A few days later, he called her and told her that he had rescinded the permit and again forced her to have sex with him in order to get it back. In both cases, the Palestinian woman refused his demands for sex, and in both cases, he threatened to take away her work permit if she told anyone about the rape. He was also convicted of receiving a bribe by forcing another Palestinian woman to have sex with him multiple times in exchange for a work permit. Despite the clear power imbalance, this was not deemed to have been rape as the victim did not explicitly refuse his demands for sex.” So tell me, you believe one Israeli soldier raping and coercing at least two Palestinian women is fine. What is the number at which rape becomes unacceptable to you? What is the number of civilian casualties before indiscriminate bombing becomes unacceptable to you? Because it seems from your attitude the answer is — the limit does not exist so long as the victims are Palestinians. So just say so. Don’t play games that you suddenly care about rape or the abuse of children. |
None of those 8,000 children— especially the premature babies who weren’t even born on October 7th— did anything. They didn’t torture anyone. They didn’t rape anyone. They didn’t mutilate anyone. Their deaths are not “fighting back” against anyone. They are a tragedy as profound as the civilians deaths on October 7th, there are just so many more of them. |
What the soldier did was horrible. But! he was caught and brought to justice. The rapes of Israeli women by Hamas animals was celebrated in Gaza. None of the terrorists would have bet face justice unless Israel brought it upon them. In fact, WB pays the terrorists salary for life and to their families when the terrorist are “martyred” |
In your last three posts you’ve gone from “Israelis do NOT rape Palestinians” to “it only ever happened once” to “it’s fine when the Israelis do because this particular individual went to jail”. Do you think his is the only such case? Rape isn’t justified. Period. It’s barbaric when Hamas does it and it’s barbaric when the Israelis do it. The difference is that one is a group globally recognized as terrorists and one is a country absolutely insisting they care about civilians and then behaving counter to those statements. |