What the hell happened to JD Vance?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look how choreographed and fake this worm’s entire life is. Baptizing his Hindu raised kid to coincide with his phony ghost written Catholic book, while bashing the Pope. This dork is so detestable on a visceral level.



Can you imagine the feelings of the priest who has to hear Vance's confession? No wonder the priesthood has such problems.


The Church should excommunicate him. But they won’t.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Look how choreographed and fake this worm’s entire life is. Baptizing his Hindu raised kid to coincide with his phony ghost written Catholic book, while bashing the Pope. This dork is so detestable on a visceral level.



Behold the Vance Rizz! People LOVE him! The fatter the face, the quicker the pace! The rounder the jowls, the more friends-n-pals!
Anonymous
We’re days away from being gaslit that this conman’s Catholic book is a “best seller”

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Look how choreographed and fake this worm’s entire life is. Baptizing his Hindu raised kid to coincide with his phony ghost written Catholic book, while bashing the Pope. This dork is so detestable on a visceral level.



Maybe this is a better question for the religion forum but as a Catholic who isn't totally versed on all the intricacies, this strikes me as weird. Easter is when the RCIA (rite of Christian initiation for adults) candidates are baptized. That's a year long process for adults, and the baptism is part of the mass with the renewal of baptismal promises. Children are usually baptized on other Sundays, in a more informal process after mass that is for the family. Although most Catholics baptize their kids as babies (to avoid limbo!), I grew up in a heavily immigrant parish where it was not uncommon to baptize later either because people were in transit, waiting for a family member to be able to cross, or saving up money for a baptismal gown/suit. I don't know why this would be done on Easter. Everything he does is just a little weird and off.

I assume they are doing it now so that the child can receive Reconciliation and First Communion with the other kids his age -- that's second grade in this Diocese but requires a two year class in most parishes (although I'm sure they'd allow him to start the class before being baptized). He said his older son "chose" to be baptized at 7. I wonder if the compromise with Usha was that they would let each kid choose when they go to the 1st/2nd grade point. I don't know if that's much of a choice, since kids that age are usually happy to do whatever will make their parents less disappointed in them, particularly if that choice also comes with a cake and potentially some presents. (My own kids were a little disappointed to realize that Catholic presents generally stink...while their Jewish friends were raking in the cash, all they got was religious jewelry/statutory/books).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We’re days away from being gaslit that this conman’s Catholic book is a “best seller”



I am loving the USCCB right now more than I have in a while. That is a tremendous snap back. Maybe the dude that sort of became Catholic a few years ago can take a seat and not center himself in a conversation that has been developing over a thousand years?
I always say -- for better or worse, the Catholic Church is a big bus driven by old men. Its not gonna corner fast, its got a ton of inertia, and you're never gonna be in the driver's seat. But it carries a ton of people in a particular direction and it can take a lot of dents without changing course. JD, take note -- you aren't driving this bus, and you're not even making a dent here.
Anonymous
Plenty of welcoming arms in the crazy born-again Christian mega churchs.... why doesn't JD give that a try?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We’re days away from being gaslit that this conman’s Catholic book is a “best seller”



I am loving the USCCB right now more than I have in a while. That is a tremendous snap back. Maybe the dude that sort of became Catholic a few years ago can take a seat and not center himself in a conversation that has been developing over a thousand years?
I always say -- for better or worse, the Catholic Church is a big bus driven by old men. Its not gonna corner fast, its got a ton of inertia, and you're never gonna be in the driver's seat. But it carries a ton of people in a particular direction and it can take a lot of dents without changing course. JD, take note -- you aren't driving this bus, and you're not even making a dent here.


Very true. Usually I don't like what the people on the bus are doing, but just this once, I agree with them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Plenty of welcoming arms in the crazy born-again Christian mega churchs.... why doesn't JD give that a try?


It’s another example of how he always reads the room wrong. He’s got this huge chip on his shoulder about elite academia because he thinks he wasn’t full accepted due to his midwestern low income background. But maybe it was just his personality turning people off?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Plenty of welcoming arms in the crazy born-again Christian mega churchs.... why doesn't JD give that a try?


It’s another example of how he always reads the room wrong. He’s got this huge chip on his shoulder about elite academia because he thinks he wasn’t full accepted due to his midwestern low income background. But maybe it was just his personality turning people off?


Yeah… JD, it wasn’t your background that was a problem, but rather your repulsive , soulless, slimy, unfunny, immoral being. I bet Usha is wishing she never met this turd of a man, but she made her bed and deserves to go down with the ship. May they never know a moment of peace and live in shame forever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We’re days away from being gaslit that this conman’s Catholic book is a “best seller”



I am loving the USCCB right now more than I have in a while. That is a tremendous snap back. Maybe the dude that sort of became Catholic a few years ago can take a seat and not center himself in a conversation that has been developing over a thousand years?
I always say -- for better or worse, the Catholic Church is a big bus driven by old men. Its not gonna corner fast, its got a ton of inertia, and you're never gonna be in the driver's seat. But it carries a ton of people in a particular direction and it can take a lot of dents without changing course. JD, take note -- you aren't driving this bus, and you're not even making a dent here.


I really appreciate this metaphor! Well done.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Plenty of welcoming arms in the crazy born-again Christian mega churchs.... why doesn't JD give that a try?

Because he joined when he was thinking he would have an elite legal career. The conservative legal elite are Catholic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Plenty of welcoming arms in the crazy born-again Christian mega churchs.... why doesn't JD give that a try?

Because he joined when he was thinking he would have an elite legal career. The conservative legal elite are Catholic.


That may be true but he’s a joke now. He should leave Catholicism and go where’s he’s appreciated- a mega church run by a closeted sex predator whose congregants don rhinestone crosses and cheer on the kidnapping and torture of immigrants and the killing of children during wartime. That’s the demographic for a person like JD.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Look how choreographed and fake this worm’s entire life is. Baptizing his Hindu raised kid to coincide with his phony ghost written Catholic book, while bashing the Pope. This dork is so detestable on a visceral level.


It's soooo transparent. So scripted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look how choreographed and fake this worm’s entire life is. Baptizing his Hindu raised kid to coincide with his phony ghost written Catholic book, while bashing the Pope. This dork is so detestable on a visceral level.



Maybe this is a better question for the religion forum but as a Catholic who isn't totally versed on all the intricacies, this strikes me as weird. Easter is when the RCIA (rite of Christian initiation for adults) candidates are baptized. That's a year long process for adults, and the baptism is part of the mass with the renewal of baptismal promises. Children are usually baptized on other Sundays, in a more informal process after mass that is for the family. Although most Catholics baptize their kids as babies (to avoid limbo!), I grew up in a heavily immigrant parish where it was not uncommon to baptize later either because people were in transit, waiting for a family member to be able to cross, or saving up money for a baptismal gown/suit. I don't know why this would be done on Easter. Everything he does is just a little weird and off.

I assume they are doing it now so that the child can receive Reconciliation and First Communion with the other kids his age -- that's second grade in this Diocese but requires a two year class in most parishes (although I'm sure they'd allow him to start the class before being baptized). He said his older son "chose" to be baptized at 7. I wonder if the compromise with Usha was that they would let each kid choose when they go to the 1st/2nd grade point. I don't know if that's much of a choice, since kids that age are usually happy to do whatever will make their parents less disappointed in them, particularly if that choice also comes with a cake and potentially some presents. (My own kids were a little disappointed to realize that Catholic presents generally stink...while their Jewish friends were raking in the cash, all they got was religious jewelry/statutory/books).


It is unusual for a little kid to be baptized on Easter. Maybe, since he converted, he doesn't know that? There's nothing wrong with it either, it just isn't typical.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look how choreographed and fake this worm’s entire life is. Baptizing his Hindu raised kid to coincide with his phony ghost written Catholic book, while bashing the Pope. This dork is so detestable on a visceral level.



Maybe this is a better question for the religion forum but as a Catholic who isn't totally versed on all the intricacies, this strikes me as weird. Easter is when the RCIA (rite of Christian initiation for adults) candidates are baptized. That's a year long process for adults, and the baptism is part of the mass with the renewal of baptismal promises. Children are usually baptized on other Sundays, in a more informal process after mass that is for the family. Although most Catholics baptize their kids as babies (to avoid limbo!), I grew up in a heavily immigrant parish where it was not uncommon to baptize later either because people were in transit, waiting for a family member to be able to cross, or saving up money for a baptismal gown/suit. I don't know why this would be done on Easter. Everything he does is just a little weird and off.

I assume they are doing it now so that the child can receive Reconciliation and First Communion with the other kids his age -- that's second grade in this Diocese but requires a two year class in most parishes (although I'm sure they'd allow him to start the class before being baptized). He said his older son "chose" to be baptized at 7. I wonder if the compromise with Usha was that they would let each kid choose when they go to the 1st/2nd grade point. I don't know if that's much of a choice, since kids that age are usually happy to do whatever will make their parents less disappointed in them, particularly if that choice also comes with a cake and potentially some presents. (My own kids were a little disappointed to realize that Catholic presents generally stink...while their Jewish friends were raking in the cash, all they got was religious jewelry/statutory/books).


It is unusual for a little kid to be baptized on Easter. Maybe, since he converted, he doesn't know that? There's nothing wrong with it either, it just isn't typical.



Baptizing on Easter is exactly the right day when your whole intent is on how it looks politically to MAGA
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