Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Noem’s statements about the killing do not match up with the video at all. She is bold faced lying, calling him a domestic terrorist, and MAGA is eating it up. Noem has no credibility. Anyone with a brain can see that ICE is out of control and this was murder.

Well, take it up with her Boss. I’m sorry but this doesn’t stop with Noem. The Commander in Chief is unfit to lead.

President Miller or ‘president’ Trump?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Noem’s statements about the killing do not match up with the video at all. She is bold faced lying, calling him a domestic terrorist, and MAGA is eating it up. Noem has no credibility. Anyone with a brain can see that ICE is out of control and this was murder.

Well, take it up with her Boss. I’m sorry but this doesn’t stop with Noem. The Commander in Chief is unfit to lead.

President Miller or ‘president’ Trump?

There’s only one president. And he needs to go, and take the garbage out with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:pretty wild statement re: Republican Chris Madel drop from race for MN governor:

"Saying he cannot support the national GOP's 'stated retribution on citizens of our state, nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so."

Is he young enough to run in the next gubernatorial election? If so, it’s another tea leaf that MAGA has run its course.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.

Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.

I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?

Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.

No the story is republicans have taken another amendment away. The 2nd no longer exists. This was a public execution like ISIS. Only ISIS members like yourself would defend this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:pretty wild statement re: Republican Chris Madel drop from race for MN governor:

"Saying he cannot support the national GOP's 'stated retribution on citizens of our state, nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so."

Is he young enough to run in the next gubernatorial election? If so, it’s another tea leaf that MAGA has run its course.

I think the battle between MAGA and non MAGA candidates is going to be a little more intense this time around.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.

Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.

I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?

Remember 1776? Remember the Warsaw uprising? Why did though people do what they did?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pretti allegedly had an Sig P320 - a gun that has a horrible safety issue of letting off shots without a trigger press. It’s a known issue. I wonder if in the process of disarming him a shot from his gun went off and the panic started and shots were directed at him. Not excusing but trying to make sense.

That is exactly what happened. But the left (who knows nothing about guns) wont accept it.

It’s truly fascinating to see how quickly the MAGA story has gone from “he was a domestic terrorist who was trying to assassinate federal agents” to “our agents are a bunch of f$ck ups who negligently discharged a weapon and then freaked out and starting blasting away at the guy.”

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Also fascinating that they think the “ICE got spooked” line is exonerating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.

Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.

I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?

Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.

Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”

Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me what a person who is at the scene of a protest has to do to appear NOT to be "resisting arrest" after being sprayed in the face with tear gas, punched repeatedly, and pinned down by multiple adult males? Are you supposed to remain motionless like a corpse while being tear gassed, punched, and sat upon?

Asking for me and my friends who will be attending more protests.

If you’re standing in the road and they ask you to move, move. It’s not hard. You have the right to protest, you do not have the right to block the street.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.

Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.

I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?

Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.

Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”

Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...

DP. Do you think everyone who lawfully carries a gun is planning to shoot people? If you do, then you probably agree we need some tighter gun control, no?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me what a person who is at the scene of a protest has to do to appear NOT to be "resisting arrest" after being sprayed in the face with tear gas, punched repeatedly, and pinned down by multiple adult males? Are you supposed to remain motionless like a corpse while being tear gassed, punched, and sat upon?

Asking for me and my friends who will be attending more protests.

If you’re standing in the road and they ask you to move, move. It’s not hard. You have the right to protest, you do not have the right to block the street.

Or else what? You’ll be shot and killed?

That’s not how the law works here. What was so damn urgent they couldn’t just walk away. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.

Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.

I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?

Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.

Why don't you tell that to MAGA, who are the ones most likely to bring a gun to a tense protest? And then show me where in the law it says you can't bring a gun to a protest.

MAGAs with guns at tense protests

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me what a person who is at the scene of a protest has to do to appear NOT to be "resisting arrest" after being sprayed in the face with tear gas, punched repeatedly, and pinned down by multiple adult males? Are you supposed to remain motionless like a corpse while being tear gassed, punched, and sat upon?

Asking for me and my friends who will be attending more protests.

If you’re standing in the road and they ask you to move, move. It’s not hard. You have the right to protest, you do not have the right to block the street.

This is irrelevant to the PP’s question and to what happened in MN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

How TF was he resisting arrest? He was peppersprayed at point blank range. They could have walked away at that point.

Let me repeat, THEY COULD HAVE WALKED AWAY AT THAT POINT.

People kill. Not guns.

So now that’s flipped too? I thought we needed gun control because it was the guns that killed people. Liberals are now arguing for the 2nd amendment, blaming people not guns, and white lives matter. What a wild time.

[Anonymous]

ICE/CBP are responsible for 2/3s of the murders in Minneapolis so far this year.