UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:Backpack found has different straps - black.
Not the same as shooting video.

What is going on now?

I noticed too that the backpack worn in the shooting is light gray, while the one in the photos at hostel was black

Pretty boy has two backpacks.

Is the dress gold and white or blue and black?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.

Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?

In many cases they keep the system from ripping people off and in many cases make sure that people don’t get the wrong med or unnecessary procedures. I know you think your doctor is the bees knees and would never do anything unethical or wrong but you would be wrong. Consider the fact that so many physician groups have sold out to PE who are managing care by the way in which they manage the practice. The docs didn’t sell because they are concerned about the good of the patients - they wanted a paycheck. There are no innocents in this game.

Yep. Private equity is all over specialized surgical and medical groups …. these doctors are money machines. Cha Ching! $$ Smart doctors know how to game the system. Spend 15 minutes with a patient, quick exam, order scans. Done. Next!

Even large hospital groups order needless scans, ultrasounds, blood work, procedures, unnecessary surgeries…it’s insane.

Yes—I’m generally pro doctor but anyone who thinks that doctors don’t need checks on spending is naive. The nursing homes are notorious for ordering useless tests and therapies to pad their profits. And lots of doctors will just write whatever test or script their patient wants because it’s easier than arguing or because they are making a profit (remember the opioid epidemic?). Everyone would like to have great doctors who only prescribe medically necessary stuff and only do so in their best interest, and have affordable health care that covers all medically necessary treatments, even if those treatments cost millions of dollars a year for a single condition. But it’s not reality. Yes, let’s crack down on the bad actors, but this generalized hate for health insurance providers is just so naive and dangerous. Does anyone remember the world before health insurance? Working class people just died if they got anything that needed more than a doctors visit. Pooling of risk is a good thing—that’s what insurance is. But insurance companies have to follow their written policies.

You might read this (reddit doctors posting outrageous insurance denials)
https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1h8f5yo/assassinated_by_insurance/

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Anonymous wrote:This is predictable. But you never know what intentional disinformation police put out to get the perp to relax.

This is misleading and you know it. That photo is still the correct photo of the person of interest. If you had actually read the article you linked you would know that people thought the photo looked just like Trump surrogate Joey Mannarino (and comparing them side by side I see a resemblance). But the hostel photo is the right one.

Quit being a troll. Or dumb. Or both.

DP. Wouldn’t the Starbucks pic be the “correct photo” since he had the same outfit as the shooter? And it was a couple of blocks to the shooting and about 30 min prior. You can’t say definitively this guy/pic is the shooter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is predictable. But you never know what intentional disinformation police put out to get the perp to relax.

This is misleading and you know it. That photo is still the correct photo of the person of interest. If you had actually read the article you linked you would know that people thought the photo looked just like Trump surrogate Joey Mannarino (and comparing them side by side I see a resemblance). But the hostel photo is the right one.

Quit being a troll. Or dumb. Or both.

DP. Wouldn’t the Starbucks pic be the “correct photo” since he had the same outfit as the shooter? And it was a couple of blocks to the shooting and about 30 min prior. You can’t say definitively this guy/pic is the shooter.

The police released both photos which are from different days. Do you wear the same things every single day? GMAFB.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Or it's a red herring.

Did you see this?

https://x.com/brianosheaspi/status/1864856460397609112?s=46&t=B_UPLhyHnaYTWZGHGKR0lQ

It's also odd that shooter has visible backpack which was "dumped" and found. Why not hide gun under coat?

Because the backpack held a different coat, hat, sunglasses, etc.

Too much trouble. You could have hid gun under coat and worn wig or hat and then ditched them after.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.

Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?

In many cases they keep the system from ripping people off and in many cases make sure that people don’t get the wrong med or unnecessary procedures. I know you think your doctor is the bees knees and would never do anything unethical or wrong but you would be wrong. Consider the fact that so many physician groups have sold out to PE who are managing care by the way in which they manage the practice. The docs didn’t sell because they are concerned about the good of the patients - they wanted a paycheck. There are no innocents in this game.

Yep. Private equity is all over specialized surgical and medical groups …. these doctors are money machines. Cha Ching! $$ Smart doctors know how to game the system. Spend 15 minutes with a patient, quick exam, order scans. Done. Next!

Even large hospital groups order needless scans, ultrasounds, blood work, procedures, unnecessary surgeries…it’s insane.

Yes—I’m generally pro doctor but anyone who thinks that doctors don’t need checks on spending is naive. The nursing homes are notorious for ordering useless tests and therapies to pad their profits. And lots of doctors will just write whatever test or script their patient wants because it’s easier than arguing or because they are making a profit (remember the opioid epidemic?). Everyone would like to have great doctors who only prescribe medically necessary stuff and only do so in their best interest, and have affordable health care that covers all medically necessary treatments, even if those treatments cost millions of dollars a year for a single condition. But it’s not reality. Yes, let’s crack down on the bad actors, but this generalized hate for health insurance providers is just so naive and dangerous. Does anyone remember the world before health insurance? Working class people just died if they got anything that needed more than a doctors visit. Pooling of risk is a good thing—that’s what insurance is. But insurance companies have to follow their written policies.

You might read this (reddit doctors posting outrageous insurance denials)
https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1h8f5yo/assassinated_by_insurance/

I'm not sure what you're point is. Doctors usually aren't quite so public with the games they play. Like always being sure to take a biopsy anytime the procedure conceivably could include one. Or forcing people that need a colonoscopy and an endoscopy to get them done at different times so they can collect two facility fees. (Some will lie and claim insurance requires it. It doesn't.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New angle on gun. It may have been a veterinarian gun used for putting animals down.

I thought veterinarians used a drug cocktail for putting down animals?

Not the ones you eat.

Vets don't put down food animals. And that would be a bolt gun. The bolt is captive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.

Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?

In many cases they keep the system from ripping people off and in many cases make sure that people don’t get the wrong med or unnecessary procedures. I know you think your doctor is the bees knees and would never do anything unethical or wrong but you would be wrong. Consider the fact that so many physician groups have sold out to PE who are managing care by the way in which they manage the practice. The docs didn’t sell because they are concerned about the good of the patients - they wanted a paycheck. There are no innocents in this game.

Yep. Private equity is all over specialized surgical and medical groups …. these doctors are money machines. Cha Ching! $$ Smart doctors know how to game the system. Spend 15 minutes with a patient, quick exam, order scans. Done. Next!

Even large hospital groups order needless scans, ultrasounds, blood work, procedures, unnecessary surgeries…it’s insane.

Yes—I’m generally pro doctor but anyone who thinks that doctors don’t need checks on spending is naive. The nursing homes are notorious for ordering useless tests and therapies to pad their profits. And lots of doctors will just write whatever test or script their patient wants because it’s easier than arguing or because they are making a profit (remember the opioid epidemic?). Everyone would like to have great doctors who only prescribe medically necessary stuff and only do so in their best interest, and have affordable health care that covers all medically necessary treatments, even if those treatments cost millions of dollars a year for a single condition. But it’s not reality. Yes, let’s crack down on the bad actors, but this generalized hate for health insurance providers is just so naive and dangerous. Does anyone remember the world before health insurance? Working class people just died if they got anything that needed more than a doctors visit. Pooling of risk is a good thing—that’s what insurance is. But insurance companies have to follow their written policies.

There are monsters at every level of the system. This hospital allowed this doctor to misdiagnose and kill patients because he made money for them.

The opioid epidemic is due in part to physicians being courted by pharma sales people and the fact that no one was watching what was going on so the pill mills were allowed to dispense like crazy and Medicaid just paid. I’m not saying health insurance companies are angels by any means but there are plenty of bad actors out there.


https://www.propublica.org/article/thomas-weiner-montana-st-peters-hospital-oncology

[Anonymous]

According to NY Post, Eric Adams is now saying they have the name of the suspect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to NY Post, Eric Adams is now saying they have the name of the suspect.

or so they say. They don't tell everything to the public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.

Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?

In many cases they keep the system from ripping people off and in many cases make sure that people don’t get the wrong med or unnecessary procedures. I know you think your doctor is the bees knees and would never do anything unethical or wrong but you would be wrong. Consider the fact that so many physician groups have sold out to PE who are managing care by the way in which they manage the practice. The docs didn’t sell because they are concerned about the good of the patients - they wanted a paycheck. There are no innocents in this game.

Yep. Private equity is all over specialized surgical and medical groups …. these doctors are money machines. Cha Ching! $$ Smart doctors know how to game the system. Spend 15 minutes with a patient, quick exam, order scans. Done. Next!

Even large hospital groups order needless scans, ultrasounds, blood work, procedures, unnecessary surgeries…it’s insane.

Yes—I’m generally pro doctor but anyone who thinks that doctors don’t need checks on spending is naive. The nursing homes are notorious for ordering useless tests and therapies to pad their profits. And lots of doctors will just write whatever test or script their patient wants because it’s easier than arguing or because they are making a profit (remember the opioid epidemic?). Everyone would like to have great doctors who only prescribe medically necessary stuff and only do so in their best interest, and have affordable health care that covers all medically necessary treatments, even if those treatments cost millions of dollars a year for a single condition. But it’s not reality. Yes, let’s crack down on the bad actors, but this generalized hate for health insurance providers is just so naive and dangerous. Does anyone remember the world before health insurance? Working class people just died if they got anything that needed more than a doctors visit. Pooling of risk is a good thing—that’s what insurance is. But insurance companies have to follow their written policies.

There are monsters at every level of the system. This hospital allowed this doctor to misdiagnose and kill patients because he made money for them.

The opioid epidemic is due in part to physicians being courted by pharma sales people and the fact that no one was watching what was going on so the pill mills were allowed to dispense like crazy and Medicaid just paid. I’m not saying health insurance companies are angels by any means but there are plenty of bad actors out there.


https://www.propublica.org/article/thomas-weiner-montana-st-peters-hospital-oncology

Also look at the stories about patients being kept in psych wards so that the monstrous doctors could keep billing insurance. It's sickening. The whole system from insurance to hospital to medical staff, is corrupt.

And Americans need to stop thinking this country has the most envied medical system in the world, because anyone who has actually traveled and needed medical care in other countries, knows it's BS. I have friends currently traveling to a couple of other countries for advanced medical treatments that the US doesn't offer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still think it's the wife.

I have not ruled this out either. She was very quick to give a comment to the news reporter who called her, and very quick to say he had received threats.

[Anonymous]

the photo looked just like Trump surrogate Joey Mannarino

I looked up this person because I wasn't sure what he looked like. No Hostel worker is flirting with that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still think it's the wife.

It’s the wife, disgruntled cronies, or a self hit to get out of the legal mess and spare his family. Maybe he was on the phone with the shooter telling him he was on his way down. I don’t think it’s going to be some hero dad upset that his kid’s leukemia claims were denied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to NY Post, Eric Adams is now saying they have the name of the suspect.

Eric Adams would never lie!