Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

Most of the West Bank supports Hamas right now. That should be very worrying to Israel right now

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The latest Quinnipiac polling shows most Americans don’t support more military aid. That support is falling as Israel continues to act in a barbaric manner.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/20/quinnipiac-support-israel-down-00132743

So clearly the “Israel without question or criticism” policy is not resonating and it’s time for a change. The question is whether people in power will make the pivot soon enough to matter.

No, because one, it takes a long time to turn a ship (Israel wouldn't self destruct overnight, or at all actually, if the U.S. stopped its relations with it, you oversimplify the relationship) and two, the leaders do not want to (rightly so).
So come up with another hope and dream. Maybe non violent political struggle which includes recognizing that the national is Israel is not going to be wiped off the map.

Israel is a failed state that can not exist without huge support from the US. Only way for Israel to continue as a state is to renounce judaism as a state religion, adopt a constitution and become a secular state.

Fine. And every Muslim state should renounce Islam.

Yes. I believe this is true. I believe strongly in the separation of church and state model.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did anyone see the new survey that shows 72% of palestinians support Hamas's actions on Oct 7? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/middleeast/palestinians-back-hamas-survey-intl-cmd/index.html

If the IDF hurt one of my children, I regret to say that I'd probably do more than support Hamas. After the IDF has killed and mutilated, displaced, and starved so many Palestinians, I'm surprised that number is as low as 72%.

Yes. This. Israel’s outsized response is only servicing to make Jews less safe worldwide. If you think IDF’s response has been justified based on 1200 deaths and 250 kidnapped victims, just imagine what the Palestinians want to do to Israelis for 20x that amount of suffering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did anyone see the new survey that shows 72% of palestinians support Hamas's actions on Oct 7? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/middleeast/palestinians-back-hamas-survey-intl-cmd/index.html

If the IDF hurt one of my children, I regret to say that I'd probably do more than support Hamas. After the IDF has killed and mutilated, displaced, and starved so many Palestinians, I'm surprised that number is as low as 72%.

That pretty much makes you a POS.

Really? You’d embrace and support someone who hurt or killed your child?

I fervently hope you’re not a parent.

Nah, I just wouldn't go kill their kids.

Because I'm, you know, a human being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did anyone see the new survey that shows 72% of palestinians support Hamas's actions on Oct 7? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/middleeast/palestinians-back-hamas-survey-intl-cmd/index.html

If the IDF hurt one of my children, I regret to say that I'd probably do more than support Hamas. After the IDF has killed and mutilated, displaced, and starved so many Palestinians, I'm surprised that number is as low as 72%.

That pretty much makes you a POS.

Pretty sure it makes them human. These are human feelings and human nature.

Just because you are on the side of collective punishment and war crimes because you share a religion with israeli terrorists doesnt make everyone else a POS.

People who celebrate killing kids are POS's, regardless of which "side" they're on.

And, FWIW, I'm not Jewish.

[Anonymous]

Finally, at least some of Gaza's Palestinians are starting to put the blame squarely where it belongs - on Hamas. Took them long enough.

When news of the Oct. 7 attacks on southern Israel by Hamas militants reached Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, many took to the streets in celebration, distributing sweets and cheering fighters as they paraded hostages through the enclave.

Since then, however, quiet criticism has begun spreading against the militant group, with Gazans blaming the militants for having provoked Israel’s wrath and for their inability to shield the population from a devastating war and a humanitarian crisis that deepens by the day.

“People are dying every minute,” said a 56-year-old businessman from Gaza. “Hamas is the one that dragged us into this terrible vortex.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gazans-are-starting-to-blame-hamas-for-wartime-suffering/ar-AA1lOZjB?ocid=windirect&cvid=266e3eb660ee4829baf9b99a2ed78927&ei=25

[Anonymous]

The Wash Post has a lead article today saying it is impossible to verify Israel’s claim that one of the major Gaza Hospitals served as a command and control center for Hamas. Evidence is not there to support Israel’s claim

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did anyone see the new survey that shows 72% of palestinians support Hamas's actions on Oct 7? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/middleeast/palestinians-back-hamas-survey-intl-cmd/index.html

If the IDF hurt one of my children, I regret to say that I'd probably do more than support Hamas. After the IDF has killed and mutilated, displaced, and starved so many Palestinians, I'm surprised that number is as low as 72%.

Or if they expelled you and put you in a tent across the border, and now you get to watch them build stuff on the land of your family farm, to which you still have the keys but can never visit. Also, they tell you it’s wrong to tell your children what happened and that you’re a hater.

They hated Jews long before 10/7. This is nothing new.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did anyone see the new survey that shows 72% of palestinians support Hamas's actions on Oct 7? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/middleeast/palestinians-back-hamas-survey-intl-cmd/index.html

If the IDF hurt one of my children, I regret to say that I'd probably do more than support Hamas. After the IDF has killed and mutilated, displaced, and starved so many Palestinians, I'm surprised that number is as low as 72%.

Or if they expelled you and put you in a tent across the border, and now you get to watch them build stuff on the land of your family farm, to which you still have the keys but can never visit. Also, they tell you it’s wrong to tell your children what happened and that you’re a hater.

They hated Jews long before 10/7. This is nothing new.

Yes this started with the creation of Israel out of land occupied by Palestinians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Wash Post has a lead article today saying it is impossible to verify Israel’s claim that one of the major Gaza Hospitals served as a command and control center for Hamas. Evidence is not there to support Israel’s claim

Shocking but they still bombed it …like all the other 365 healthcare facilities in Gaza. Everyone of them bombed. Now it is time for disease and starvation to finish the job. Wonder how Biden will help facilitate this new phase?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Finally, at least some of Gaza's Palestinians are starting to put the blame squarely where it belongs - on Hamas. Took them long enough.

When news of the Oct. 7 attacks on southern Israel by Hamas militants reached Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, many took to the streets in celebration, distributing sweets and cheering fighters as they paraded hostages through the enclave.

Since then, however, quiet criticism has begun spreading against the militant group, with Gazans blaming the militants for having provoked Israel’s wrath and for their inability to shield the population from a devastating war and a humanitarian crisis that deepens by the day.

“People are dying every minute,” said a 56-year-old businessman from Gaza. “Hamas is the one that dragged us into this terrible vortex.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gazans-are-starting-to-blame-hamas-for-wartime-suffering/ar-AA1lOZjB?ocid=windirect&cvid=266e3eb660ee4829baf9b99a2ed78927&ei=25

They have been in the vortex for the last 80 years
Yitzak Rabin said in an interview that he would like to see Gaza sink into the sea.
To the Israelis they are a people who do not have permission to exist

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did anyone see the new survey that shows 72% of palestinians support Hamas's actions on Oct 7? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/middleeast/palestinians-back-hamas-survey-intl-cmd/index.html

If the IDF hurt one of my children, I regret to say that I'd probably do more than support Hamas. After the IDF has killed and mutilated, displaced, and starved so many Palestinians, I'm surprised that number is as low as 72%.

Or if they expelled you and put you in a tent across the border, and now you get to watch them build stuff on the land of your family farm, to which you still have the keys but can never visit. Also, they tell you it’s wrong to tell your children what happened and that you’re a hater.

They hated Jews long before 10/7. This is nothing new.

Yes this started with the creation of Israel out of land occupied by Palestinians.

Really then why were there anti Jewish pogroms in the area in the 1890s?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did anyone see the new survey that shows 72% of palestinians support Hamas's actions on Oct 7? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/middleeast/palestinians-back-hamas-survey-intl-cmd/index.html

If the IDF hurt one of my children, I regret to say that I'd probably do more than support Hamas. After the IDF has killed and mutilated, displaced, and starved so many Palestinians, I'm surprised that number is as low as 72%.

That pretty much makes you a POS.

Really? You’d embrace and support someone who hurt or killed your child?

I fervently hope you’re not a parent.

Nah, I just wouldn't go kill their kids.

Because I'm, you know, a human being.

Strange response for a loving parent. Hipe no one breaks into your home with the intent to harm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did anyone see the new survey that shows 72% of palestinians support Hamas's actions on Oct 7? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/middleeast/palestinians-back-hamas-survey-intl-cmd/index.html

If the IDF hurt one of my children, I regret to say that I'd probably do more than support Hamas. After the IDF has killed and mutilated, displaced, and starved so many Palestinians, I'm surprised that number is as low as 72%.

That pretty much makes you a POS.

Pretty sure it makes them human. These are human feelings and human nature.

Just because you are on the side of collective punishment and war crimes because you share a religion with israeli terrorists doesnt make everyone else a POS.

People who celebrate killing kids are POS's, regardless of which "side" they're on.

And, FWIW, I'm not Jewish.

Who said anything about killing children? Maybe you misunderstood the sentence: If the IDF hurt one of my children, I regret to say that I'd probably do more than support Hamas.
I took it to mean that if that happened, they wouldn't just support hamas, they would fight alongside them. That isn't celebrating the killing of any children, it is the vengeful base instinct of a mother losing a child to a terrorist israeli soldier.