Dealbreaker: students required to live on campus for 3 or even 4 years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And here I am rolling my eyes at parents at my kids' colleges who somehow didn't realize their kids had chosen places that don't guarantee four years of housing.

(Building dorms is expensive, so state Us and institutions with small endowments in expensive locations aren't going to offer a lot of dorms, and definitely not nice dorms. But drinking? That's determined by whether conservative Christians are in charge)

Wtf? That idiocy came out of nowhere.

[Anonymous]

OP, have you talked to any current students about the dorm rules? Because I went to an urban school that required on campus housing for freshman year but guaranteed it for four years if you wanted it and probably about 75% of students stayed on campus the whole time because it was cheaper than renting and we liked the community. But also: literally none of the rules allude to existed? We had dorms that allowed painting, pets, parties, visitors, etc. Most people didn’t live with roommates after sophomore year although some did because they wanted to live with a friend or significant other or to save money. I actually shared a room with my friend when I moved off campus for grad school for just that reason. Sometimes adults share rooms if they’re not made of money.

As for fostering independence — what is the difference between paying rent to a university landlord vs a massive rental company? My experience doing both has been pretty similar.

[Anonymous]

I would have been so sad if I hadn't lived on campus all four years. At my college, almost everyone did and it fostered a true "college experience" that I wouldn't trade for the world. I had plenty of time to do the young adult renting her first apartment thing after college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And here I am rolling my eyes at parents at my kids' colleges who somehow didn't realize their kids had chosen places that don't guarantee four years of housing.

(Building dorms is expensive, so state Us and institutions with small endowments in expensive locations aren't going to offer a lot of dorms, and definitely not nice dorms. But drinking? That's determined by whether conservative Christians are in charge)

Wtf? That idiocy came out of nowhere.

OK, let's ask the group: Did your college prohibit drinking in the dorms, and if so (1) what were the restrictions, exactly and (2) how would you describe your college's culture?

Of all the places people I know have gone, the only one that prohibited drinking was Pepperdine. Others might have had a few rules, but they were minimal. (Obvs this was all pre-COVID)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And here I am rolling my eyes at parents at my kids' colleges who somehow didn't realize their kids had chosen places that don't guarantee four years of housing.

(Building dorms is expensive, so state Us and institutions with small endowments in expensive locations aren't going to offer a lot of dorms, and definitely not nice dorms. But drinking? That's determined by whether conservative Christians are in charge)

Wtf? That idiocy came out of nowhere.

OK, let's ask the group: Did your college prohibit drinking in the dorms, and if so (1) what were the restrictions, exactly and (2) how would you describe your college's culture?

Of all the places people I know have gone, the only one that prohibited drinking was Pepperdine. Others might have had a few rules, but they were minimal. (Obvs this was all pre-COVID)

1) There was a general 'don't ask, don't tell' kind of policy around underage drinking/drugs. Basically, if you didn't cause a big nuisance, make it too obvious etc. they weren't looking. In the dorms, RAs were there to help if someone got too drunk or high and they typically weren't punished. Problematic cases would say drug/alcohol abuse treatment necessary but no police involvement. In the suites/houses for juniors/seniors primarily there was virtually no oversight. I would say--for better or for worse-- there was more freedom there than off-campus as you didn't have to worry about the cops. Also, most of the junior/senior suites/houses had kitchens and independent negotiation of cleaning, bills, household chores etc. We didn't have a residential requirement, but these were sought after places because they were nicer, closer, and similarly priced as the off-campus housing which wasn't widely available.

2) Very relaxed liberal arts culture but with strong academics. Being able to keep up academically kept alcohol/drug use in check more than policies. Most students studied abroad for at least 6 months and did summer internships/winter break internships so on-campus housing more effective price-wise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And here I am rolling my eyes at parents at my kids' colleges who somehow didn't realize their kids had chosen places that don't guarantee four years of housing.

(Building dorms is expensive, so state Us and institutions with small endowments in expensive locations aren't going to offer a lot of dorms, and definitely not nice dorms. But drinking? That's determined by whether conservative Christians are in charge)

Wtf? That idiocy came out of nowhere.

OK, let's ask the group: Did your college prohibit drinking in the dorms, and if so (1) what were the restrictions, exactly and (2) how would you describe your college's culture?

Of all the places people I know have gone, the only one that prohibited drinking was Pepperdine. Others might have had a few rules, but they were minimal. (Obvs this was all pre-COVID)

Based on experiences of a 2016 college grad:
1. Over 21 only; believe the main freshman dorm buildings were also fully dry, limits on amount of alcohol in room/shared suite fridge per occupant over 21 (21+ could have booze in a double or suite with underage roommates) and the limits were like one bottle of one, pack of beers, small bottle of liquor. There was an amnesty policy in place if anyone was in trouble and seeks help for oneself or a friend. The school in question was not a party school and police/resident life folks would regularly patrol and respond drinking activity in dorms. Police would actually issue the citation rather than just asking students to go home.
2. Large public with significant population of commuter students; diverse; not a lot of rah-rah; present but not pervasive Greek life; no real artsy vibes

[Anonymous]

You can tell this thread is full of narrow-minded tailgate state and regional degree mill graduates. Living on campus all four years is over their limited-capacity heads. They can't understand a quaint private college full of kids totally immersing themselves into campus, building extremely tight bounds with classmates and faculty. "Freedom" and house parties and wearing face paint on Saturdays to get blackout drunk and cheer on the illiterate roster of sport ball players is all the obnoxious dimwits care about. Go team go!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can tell this thread is full of narrow-minded tailgate state and regional degree mill graduates. Living on campus all four years is over their limited-capacity heads. They can't understand a quaint private college full of kids totally immersing themselves into campus, building extremely tight bounds with classmates and faculty. "Freedom" and house parties and wearing face paint on Saturdays to get blackout drunk and cheer on the illiterate roster of sport ball players is all the obnoxious dimwits care about. Go team go!

It's really hard to understand the point you're trying to make. Troll better next time. Your grammar is excellent and your logic is in the 2nd grade range.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And here I am rolling my eyes at parents at my kids' colleges who somehow didn't realize their kids had chosen places that don't guarantee four years of housing.

(Building dorms is expensive, so state Us and institutions with small endowments in expensive locations aren't going to offer a lot of dorms, and definitely not nice dorms. But drinking? That's determined by whether conservative Christians are in charge)

Wtf? That idiocy came out of nowhere.

OK, let's ask the group: Did your college prohibit drinking in the dorms, and if so (1) what were the restrictions, exactly and (2) how would you describe your college's culture?

Of all the places people I know have gone, the only one that prohibited drinking was Pepperdine. Others might have had a few rules, but they were minimal. (Obvs this was all pre-COVID)

Seriously? I went to a secular college and of course drinking was prohibited in the dorms - for underaged students! It's illegal, duh. The college has to prohibit underage drinking. Now, did that actually stop us from drinking? Of course not. But technically, it was prohibited. If caught, you were "written up" and if it happened three times, you were outta there. College culture was just a normal state school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And here I am rolling my eyes at parents at my kids' colleges who somehow didn't realize their kids had chosen places that don't guarantee four years of housing.

(Building dorms is expensive, so state Us and institutions with small endowments in expensive locations aren't going to offer a lot of dorms, and definitely not nice dorms. But drinking? That's determined by whether conservative Christians are in charge)

Wtf? That idiocy came out of nowhere.

OK, let's ask the group: Did your college prohibit drinking in the dorms, and if so (1) what were the restrictions, exactly and (2) how would you describe your college's culture?

Of all the places people I know have gone, the only one that prohibited drinking was Pepperdine. Others might have had a few rules, but they were minimal. (Obvs this was all pre-COVID)

Drinking is prohibited on every college campus for people under 21.

My school was a somewhat party school and all drinking was prohibited and we were the opposite of conservative christians.

[Anonymous]

OK, but there's a difference between a college reminding you that "It's illegal if you're under 21" and a college having a policy that "No one is allowed to have alcohol on campus, and if we find you with it, you're in trouble."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And here I am rolling my eyes at parents at my kids' colleges who somehow didn't realize their kids had chosen places that don't guarantee four years of housing.

(Building dorms is expensive, so state Us and institutions with small endowments in expensive locations aren't going to offer a lot of dorms, and definitely not nice dorms. But drinking? That's determined by whether conservative Christians are in charge)

Wtf? That idiocy came out of nowhere.

OK, let's ask the group: Did your college prohibit drinking in the dorms, and if so (1) what were the restrictions, exactly and (2) how would you describe your college's culture?

Of all the places people I know have gone, the only one that prohibited drinking was Pepperdine. Others might have had a few rules, but they were minimal. (Obvs this was all pre-COVID)

Drinking is prohibited on every college campus for people under 21.

My school was a somewhat party school and all drinking was prohibited and we were the opposite of conservative christians.

Sure, technically. But my college (SLAC, residential) made it quite clear, explicitly, on day one, that alcohol should be consumed in public on campus and neither the campus security nor city police would get you in trouble if you were drinking on campus and weren't being stupid. The college had no interest in students drinking privately or secretly and getting wasted behind closed doors.

[Anonymous]

On-campus, to me, is the quintessential undergrad experience and it's so much safer, see this breaking news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And here I am rolling my eyes at parents at my kids' colleges who somehow didn't realize their kids had chosen places that don't guarantee four years of housing.

(Building dorms is expensive, so state Us and institutions with small endowments in expensive locations aren't going to offer a lot of dorms, and definitely not nice dorms. But drinking? That's determined by whether conservative Christians are in charge)

Wtf? That idiocy came out of nowhere.

OK, let's ask the group: Did your college prohibit drinking in the dorms, and if so (1) what were the restrictions, exactly and (2) how would you describe your college's culture?

Of all the places people I know have gone, the only one that prohibited drinking was Pepperdine. Others might have had a few rules, but they were minimal. (Obvs this was all pre-COVID)

Drinking is prohibited on every college campus for people under 21.

My school was a somewhat party school and all drinking was prohibited and we were the opposite of conservative christians.

Not true. There are “dry” and “wet” campuses, depending upon whether they enforce this or leave it alone because they don’t want kids dr big iff campus to drink.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would have been so sad if I hadn't lived on campus all four years. At my college, almost everyone did and it fostered a true "college experience" that I wouldn't trade for the world. I had plenty of time to do the young adult renting her first apartment thing after college.

I loved living on campus as well, and it made participating and meeting people easy. Most colleges provide housing, and only the state universities and sometimes only the largest state universities, do not.