Future Western High School

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Anonymous wrote:The reason Langley was ever part of the new western school discussion was due to overcrowding at McLean. The thought process was that the McLean overflow would move to Langley. This in turn would overwhelm Langley and necessitate moving some Langley kids to Herndon.

Population increases due to developments in Tysons and around metro is expected to further burden schools in that area including McLean. The thought of a new Western HS scares the panties off some GF families zoned for Langley because it could create extra capacity at Herndon, especially if the school is built on the proposed Hutchison site. Meaning that the fate of those GF kids closer to Herndon and others on the western edge of the Langley pyramid could land up in Herndon. (The horror!)

If McLean HS doesn’t become overcrowded (again??), then GF families on the edge are “safe” from having to switch schools. They will want to prevent high density housing in the McLean and Langley pyramids that would push them out of Langley and into Herndon.

Even without the mythical Western HS, the western edge of the Langley pyramid COULD be impacted.



Yes, if all those criteria line up and the stars align just so, the very western edge of the Langley pyramid COULD be impacted. But no one is "scared" of this remote possibility. It certainly does seem some of you want to believe we're all just quaking in our seats! If it happens, decades from now, then so be it. Right now, it's not even on the radar. Because - once again - that mythical high school has yet to be built.




Pump the breaks, Elaine. That was an explanation of how Langley / GF gets dragged into the mythical high school discussion.


Not Elaine, but I know who you are. You're the obsessed McLean parent who is determined to make sure Langley pays for whatever wacko transgression you seem to think they've committed. Seek help. This high school - if it is even built - will have nothing to do with Langley boundaries. Sorry to disappoint.


Hahaha! Not from McLean. Try again, Elaine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reason Langley was ever part of the new western school discussion was due to overcrowding at McLean. The thought process was that the McLean overflow would move to Langley. This in turn would overwhelm Langley and necessitate moving some Langley kids to Herndon.

Population increases due to developments in Tysons and around metro is expected to further burden schools in that area including McLean. The thought of a new Western HS scares the panties off some GF families zoned for Langley because it could create extra capacity at Herndon, especially if the school is built on the proposed Hutchison site. Meaning that the fate of those GF kids closer to Herndon and others on the western edge of the Langley pyramid could land up in Herndon. (The horror!)

If McLean HS doesn’t become overcrowded (again??), then GF families on the edge are “safe” from having to switch schools. They will want to prevent high density housing in the McLean and Langley pyramids that would push them out of Langley and into Herndon.

Even without the mythical Western HS, the western edge of the Langley pyramid COULD be impacted.



Yes, if all those criteria line up and the stars align just so, the very western edge of the Langley pyramid COULD be impacted. But no one is "scared" of this remote possibility. It certainly does seem some of you want to believe we're all just quaking in our seats! If it happens, decades from now, then so be it. Right now, it's not even on the radar. Because - once again - that mythical high school has yet to be built.




Pump the breaks, Elaine. That was an explanation of how Langley / GF gets dragged into the mythical high school discussion.


Not Elaine, but I know who you are. You're the obsessed McLean parent who is determined to make sure Langley pays for whatever wacko transgression you seem to think they've committed. Seek help. This high school - if it is even built - will have nothing to do with Langley boundaries. Sorry to disappoint.


Not the poster to whom you responded, but you must be the insecure Langley parent who claims everyone with whom you disagree on any thread that touches on Langley is the same "obsessed" person.

It must bother you deeply that you don't control the entire internet.


+100
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not nearly as much as the giant hissy fit that the Langley parents threw in 2019 after Janie Strauss stated publicly that "I've warned Langley, sorry, a big chunk is going to get reboundaried [when the new HS is built]."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM4AfGQqTWE


While I don’t agree with everything associated with the SB (I’m done with them) or One Fairfax, it is obvious boundaries need to change even if you discount any “equity” concerns.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not nearly as much as the giant hissy fit that the Langley parents threw in 2019 after Janie Strauss stated publicly that "I've warned Langley, sorry, a big chunk is going to get reboundaried [when the new HS is built]."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM4AfGQqTWE


Hi again, tormented McLean mom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reason Langley was ever part of the new western school discussion was due to overcrowding at McLean. The thought process was that the McLean overflow would move to Langley. This in turn would overwhelm Langley and necessitate moving some Langley kids to Herndon.

Population increases due to developments in Tysons and around metro is expected to further burden schools in that area including McLean. The thought of a new Western HS scares the panties off some GF families zoned for Langley because it could create extra capacity at Herndon, especially if the school is built on the proposed Hutchison site. Meaning that the fate of those GF kids closer to Herndon and others on the western edge of the Langley pyramid could land up in Herndon. (The horror!)

If McLean HS doesn’t become overcrowded (again??), then GF families on the edge are “safe” from having to switch schools. They will want to prevent high density housing in the McLean and Langley pyramids that would push them out of Langley and into Herndon.

Even without the mythical Western HS, the western edge of the Langley pyramid COULD be impacted.



Yes, if all those criteria line up and the stars align just so, the very western edge of the Langley pyramid COULD be impacted. But no one is "scared" of this remote possibility. It certainly does seem some of you want to believe we're all just quaking in our seats! If it happens, decades from now, then so be it. Right now, it's not even on the radar. Because - once again - that mythical high school has yet to be built.




Pump the breaks, Elaine. That was an explanation of how Langley / GF gets dragged into the mythical high school discussion.


Not Elaine, but I know who you are. You're the obsessed McLean parent who is determined to make sure Langley pays for whatever wacko transgression you seem to think they've committed. Seek help. This high school - if it is even built - will have nothing to do with Langley boundaries. Sorry to disappoint.


Hahaha! Not from McLean. Try again, Elaine.


Anyone who's been on this forum for the past year or so knows exactly who you are. Keep pretending, though!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are you suggesting the board has recently brought up this school? I assume they buried it.


This school will never be built. I've been hearing about it for decades.
Anonymous
A change in boundaries would not impact my kids but I never understand why Langley parents feel picked on during these discussions. People are not suggesting to move boundaries around to penalize you? And it is weird that Langley is the only high school with practically no FARMS when it has nothing to do with geographic reasons, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reason Langley was ever part of the new western school discussion was due to overcrowding at McLean. The thought process was that the McLean overflow would move to Langley. This in turn would overwhelm Langley and necessitate moving some Langley kids to Herndon.

Population increases due to developments in Tysons and around metro is expected to further burden schools in that area including McLean. The thought of a new Western HS scares the panties off some GF families zoned for Langley because it could create extra capacity at Herndon, especially if the school is built on the proposed Hutchison site. Meaning that the fate of those GF kids closer to Herndon and others on the western edge of the Langley pyramid could land up in Herndon. (The horror!)

If McLean HS doesn’t become overcrowded (again??), then GF families on the edge are “safe” from having to switch schools. They will want to prevent high density housing in the McLean and Langley pyramids that would push them out of Langley and into Herndon.

Even without the mythical Western HS, the western edge of the Langley pyramid COULD be impacted.



Yes, if all those criteria line up and the stars align just so, the very western edge of the Langley pyramid COULD be impacted. But no one is "scared" of this remote possibility. It certainly does seem some of you want to believe we're all just quaking in our seats! If it happens, decades from now, then so be it. Right now, it's not even on the radar. Because - once again - that mythical high school has yet to be built.




Pump the breaks, Elaine. That was an explanation of how Langley / GF gets dragged into the mythical high school discussion.


Not Elaine, but I know who you are. You're the obsessed McLean parent who is determined to make sure Langley pays for whatever wacko transgression you seem to think they've committed. Seek help. This high school - if it is even built - will have nothing to do with Langley boundaries. Sorry to disappoint.


Hahaha! Not from McLean. Try again, Elaine.


Anyone who's been on this forum for the past year or so knows exactly who you are. Keep pretending, though!


Think what you want. The reality is I’m from the wrong side of the tracks, and among the unwashed masses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A change in boundaries would not impact my kids but I never understand why Langley parents feel picked on during these discussions. People are not suggesting to move boundaries around to penalize you? And it is weird that Langley is the only high school with practically no FARMS when it has nothing to do with geographic reasons, right?


Interesting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you suggesting the board has recently brought up this school? I assume they buried it.


This school will never be built. I've been hearing about it for decades.


It is in the fall 2021 bond and also in the latest CIP for planning in 2026 and 2027, permitting in 2028, and construction in 2029 and 2030 (it's a 10-year projection, so construction could take longer).

I can't quite figure out if people don't believe anything FCPS says at this point or if they just want to spread misinformation. Just because something has been discussed for a long time doesn't mean it will never come to fruition. Fairfax County probably has more in common with Montgomery County than Loudoun (land is less expensive and more plentiful in Loudoun), and Montgomery is planning to open several new high schools in the coming years (Crown HS and Woodward HS).

It seems to me that if FCPS can't execute on its plans, whether due to opposition from certain parents hell-bent on killing the project or otherwise, it sends a very negative message about a county that otherwise claims to be open for business and looking to grow.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you suggesting the board has recently brought up this school? I assume they buried it.


This school will never be built. I've been hearing about it for decades.


It is in the fall 2021 bond and also in the latest CIP for planning in 2026 and 2027, permitting in 2028, and construction in 2029 and 2030 (it's a 10-year projection, so construction could take longer).

I can't quite figure out if people don't believe anything FCPS says at this point or if they just want to spread misinformation. Just because something has been discussed for a long time doesn't mean it will never come to fruition. Fairfax County probably has more in common with Montgomery County than Loudoun (land is less expensive and more plentiful in Loudoun), and Montgomery is planning to open several new high schools in the coming years (Crown HS and Woodward HS).

It seems to me that if FCPS can't execute on its plans, whether due to opposition from certain parents hell-bent on killing the project or otherwise, it sends a very negative message about a county that otherwise claims to be open for business and looking to grow.


Agreed. -one of the PP recently accused of some rabid McLean mom (still chuckling at this)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A change in boundaries would not impact my kids but I never understand why Langley parents feel picked on during these discussions. People are not suggesting to move boundaries around to penalize you? And it is weird that Langley is the only high school with practically no FARMS when it has nothing to do with geographic reasons, right?


+100.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I recall a lot of enthusiasm for a new HS when people thought it might have boundaries similar to Carson MS. If it can’t or won’t be built there, who’ll actually push for the new school aside from people who want to see Langley’s boundaries change (which might be a result of building a new school, but not sufficient reason to build one in the first place)?

If they took the money in the plans for a new school and spent it on adding capacity at Centreville and McLean, would that solve most of their problems or are they anticipating enough growth between Reston and Herndon in the coming years that they really need another school?

It’s a shame that the School Board is so focused on their pet projects that they never seem to have time to really address this in a public, transparent manner.


It isn’t about people wanting Langley’s boundaries to change for the sake of changing. People don’t want overcrowded schools. To reduce the overcrowding boundaries need to be redrawn with or without new schools. Redrawing those boundaries is always gets parents attention. People are balking at having to move from a more socio-economically homogeneous and overall wealthier pyramid to much more economically diverse. Both have racial diversity. Both are good schools. One has lower test scores not because there aren’t good teachers or programs, but because a larger number of students have challenges related to their SES.

Agree with you about the school board.


NP. +1. I also think there's a general hesitancy from the SB/BOS to shift boundaries west.
Anonymous
What will it take for the bond to pass on this HS? Are there any organizations pushing for it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What will it take for the bond to pass on this HS? Are there any organizations pushing for it?


The 2021 bond covers about 15 different capital projects. School bonds almost always pass in Fairfax County. Even with the dissatisfaction with the current School Board, it’s hard to see a bond referendum not passing.

To fund the construction of a new high school, though, they’ll need to put it on several future bonds in addition to the bond referendum this fall.
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