Barriers to more fully opening schools

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Anonymous wrote:The reason the open schools NOW debate comes off as racist is because people pose the argument from their own lens. My school has running water; my school has X, Y and Z, etc.

If you only know what your school looks like then you don't understand how the whole system works and in a city with a LOT of Black and Brown kids and in a city where being Black and Brown means a bigger income gap, it looks very very tone deaf.

It is like saying, if you just listen to the cop you won't die. We all know that isn't true.

I hear people saying oh the score card on dcps' website but they haven't been in the school; they haven't seen the system lie about what they have and don't have.

If all DCPS schools were the same why aren't you sending your kid to a school EOTR/P etc.

Also not understanding the challenges other families have about going back in person - real risk for medical problems; perceived risk of medical problems; access to healthcare; access to quarantine or recovery time, etc.

As people are learning to not be racist if you are white LISTEN first and then ask why what you said or did is perceived as racist.

its not about opening school for your kid its about opening it for all kids and all kids don't live like yours.

as for the problems we will have later what are you doing to ask for remediation for ALL kids. dcps summer camp is a huge help for families, are you screaming for it to be open, for it to be open more this summer, asking for summer school options for outside.

i see people in my community complaining we can't tent our school fields for outside school because the community (i.e. 20 year olds with no kids) need it for their outside time.

Nothing of what you just said has anything to do with whether it’s safe for rich white kids in well maintained schools in ward 3 to return to in person learning. Obviously the mayors office and DCPS has a lot of trust to build with folks EOTR, and they should do that! Where you’re losing people is suggesting that kids in ward 3 should stay virtual - against the parents wishes, against CDC guidance - until that happens. It comes across like you’re trying to punish kids with virtual learning until their parents have all spent a sufficient amount of time learning to be anti-racist.

Actually it has everything to do with it. Kids in Ward 3 public schools are in a public system. You can't have one set of rules for one set of kids in a public system.

If DCPS opens schools it has to make it equitable not just catering to the loudest voices.

BTW so many Ward 3 families were saying open schools because of poor BIPOC kids, they know they will get their schools opened too if that is what happens. Are you telling me they would be fine if we just opened schools in Ward 7 and 8 and not in Ward 3 because those families can afford tutors and whatnot?

God. Yes, I would be happy for those schools to open first. Closing the achievement gap has been important to me for years.

Why on earth is this an either or situation? I don’t think we even need to solve this.

I still have no idea why we’re supposed to keep our kids out of school or how that does anything to help kids EOTR. Just repeating the word “equity” over and over is supposed to convince us I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Uh, but that’s just it. Where is the negative effect on someone else? Why does my choice to have in person school available hurt someone else’s ability to stay home?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Uh, but that’s just it. Where is the negative effect on someone else? Why does my choice to have in person school available hurt someone else’s ability to stay home?

Because it is a system. Schools despite what you see do not act autonomously they are inter connected and the system is obligated to provide equal access. If white schools open and not BIPOC schools that is not equal and without equal you can't get to equity.

I don't need to recycle - it doesn't affect me right. But it affects the planet so it affects me. Because the planet is a system!!!!!!

If there is a major traffic jam on 66 it can affect DC because we have a traffic system. It can make traffic in DC better but it still affects us.

So when you are demanding the attention from DCPS to open schools you aren't saying can we have an exception and just open our school, you are saying juggle 2,000 different variables and do it now.

Its the same tenor of the rules apply to everyone except me. Why don't black men just follow the rules the cops say. Why can't people just, why can't people just - but you don't know what people are doing, living with, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Specifically what conditions have to be met before ward 3 kids are allowed to go to in person school? Be specific. We’re all dying to know.

Also the idea that you think ward 3 parents would be in any way upset if EOTR schools opened in person before them shows that you have absolutely no idea about anything and have probably never spoken to a ward 3 parent in your life. You’re just working off a Twitter caricature.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Uh, but that’s just it. Where is the negative effect on someone else? Why does my choice to have in person school available hurt someone else’s ability to stay home?

+1. Let's stop engaging with that troll you're responding to. None of her posts make sense and this looks like more WTU garbage.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Uh, but that’s just it. Where is the negative effect on someone else? Why does my choice to have in person school available hurt someone else’s ability to stay home?

Because it is a system. Schools despite what you see do not act autonomously they are inter connected and the system is obligated to provide equal access. If white schools open and not BIPOC schools that is not equal and without equal you can't get to equity.

I don't need to recycle - it doesn't affect me right. But it affects the planet so it affects me. Because the planet is a system!!!!!!

If there is a major traffic jam on 66 it can affect DC because we have a traffic system. It can make traffic in DC better but it still affects us.

So when you are demanding the attention from DCPS to open schools you aren't saying can we have an exception and just open our school, you are saying juggle 2,000 different variables and do it now.

Its the same tenor of the rules apply to everyone except me. Why don't black men just follow the rules the cops say. Why can't people just, why can't people just - but you don't know what people are doing, living with, etc.

This kind of crap must get you lots of yassss queens on Twitter but I can’t overstate how angry it makes parents who have been stretched mentally and financially to the breaking point by a full year of distance learning.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Uh, but that’s just it. Where is the negative effect on someone else? Why does my choice to have in person school available hurt someone else’s ability to stay home?

Because it is a system. Schools despite what you see do not act autonomously they are inter connected and the system is obligated to provide equal access. If white schools open and not BIPOC schools that is not equal and without equal you can't get to equity.

I don't need to recycle - it doesn't affect me right. But it affects the planet so it affects me. Because the planet is a system!!!!!!

If there is a major traffic jam on 66 it can affect DC because we have a traffic system. It can make traffic in DC better but it still affects us.

So when you are demanding the attention from DCPS to open schools you aren't saying can we have an exception and just open our school, you are saying juggle 2,000 different variables and do it now.

Its the same tenor of the rules apply to everyone except me. Why don't black men just follow the rules the cops say. Why can't people just, why can't people just - but you don't know what people are doing, living with, etc.

This kind of crap must get you lots of yassss queens on Twitter but I can’t overstate how angry it makes parents who have been stretched mentally and financially to the breaking point by a full year of distance learning.

Imagine being worried about your hours to pay ratio, having 3 kids in a 2 bedroom, no reliable transportation or medical care, etc. They are tired mentally and financially too and they aren't screaming for in person. Why? Do they not trust the science, the system, do they not love their children? Figure that out and then work on those problems to get your kid back in school.

So its a system whether you are tired mentally, financially, etc. And that is the point of the public good - it serves the public not the person who is trying to win the woe is me olympics.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Uh, but that’s just it. Where is the negative effect on someone else? Why does my choice to have in person school available hurt someone else’s ability to stay home?

Because it is a system. Schools despite what you see do not act autonomously they are inter connected and the system is obligated to provide equal access. If white schools open and not BIPOC schools that is not equal and without equal you can't get to equity.

I don't need to recycle - it doesn't affect me right. But it affects the planet so it affects me. Because the planet is a system!!!!!!

If there is a major traffic jam on 66 it can affect DC because we have a traffic system. It can make traffic in DC better but it still affects us.

So when you are demanding the attention from DCPS to open schools you aren't saying can we have an exception and just open our school, you are saying juggle 2,000 different variables and do it now.

Its the same tenor of the rules apply to everyone except me. Why don't black men just follow the rules the cops say. Why can't people just, why can't people just - but you don't know what people are doing, living with, etc.

This kind of crap must get you lots of yassss queens on Twitter but I can’t overstate how angry it makes parents who have been stretched mentally and financially to the breaking point by a full year of distance learning.

Imagine being worried about your hours to pay ratio, having 3 kids in a 2 bedroom, no reliable transportation or medical care, etc. They are tired mentally and financially too and they aren't screaming for in person. Why? Do they not trust the science, the system, do they not love their children? Figure that out and then work on those problems to get your kid back in school.

So its a system whether you are tired mentally, financially, etc. And that is the point of the public good - it serves the public not the person who is trying to win the woe is me olympics.

Still waiting for you to tell me how keeping my kid out of school helps that person with any of their problems!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Specifically what conditions have to be met before ward 3 kids are allowed to go to in person school? Be specific. We’re all dying to know.

Also the idea that you think ward 3 parents would be in any way upset if EOTR schools opened in person before them shows that you have absolutely no idea about anything and have probably never spoken to a ward 3 parent in your life. You’re just working off a Twitter caricature.

Not sure why you're responding to me. I started with the "come on" comment. I never said anything about Ward 3. I think there are multiple people in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

There is also no requirement that a school system that is majority black and brown do what white people are screaming about.

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Imagine being worried about your hours to pay ratio, having 3 kids in a 2 bedroom, no reliable transportation or medical care, etc. They are tired mentally and financially too and they aren't screaming for in person. Why? Do they not trust the science, the system, do they not love their children? Figure that out and then work on those problems to get your kid back in school.

So its a system whether you are tired mentally, financially, etc. And that is the point of the public good - it serves the public not the person who is trying to win the woe is me olympics.

Still waiting for you to tell me how keeping my kid out of school helps that person with any of their problems!

You have been told many times and you refuse to understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Reducing the number of required live teaching hours for third, fourth and fifth graders. At our school, K-2 kids are able to come in for half days and so most kids who wanted to were able to get an IPL spot. But the principal told us this was not an option for the older elementary grades because the required number of live learning hours per day was too high to be met by a half day of in person instruction and DCPS wouldn’t waive the requirement. Personally, my fourth grader would get so much extra benefit from being in person half day, even if it means losing an hour of live virtual learning.

Which school is this?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Uh, but that’s just it. Where is the negative effect on someone else? Why does my choice to have in person school available hurt someone else’s ability to stay home?

I'm the immediate PP. My point is if you only advocate for your own child without listening to anyone else, you'll never know if there's a negative effect on others. And you'll get called out.

Regarding your question, I'm pro-reopening. But I'm not going to pretend there's no impact. Maintaining resources for a viable virtual learning program is one. I'm not saying this can't be mitigated but it's ignorant to assume that your advocacy will have no effect on others.

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It's too bad this (once useful) thread has been hijacked by a completely moronic argument about whether it's racist to allow kids to attend school.