How is there not a thread about that lunatic dad who screamed at the Loudon school board?

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I felt bad for the guy with the kid with autism too. They were just really rude and cold to him. It was unnecessary.
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Anonymous wrote:This guy is AWESOME. He DESTROYS the school board with FACTS and LOGIC. He reminds me of my hero Ben Shapiro.



How is “figure it out” facts and logic?


whoosh
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Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for the guy with the kid with autism too. They were just really rude and cold to him. It was unnecessary.


They literally do not respond to public commenters
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Anonymous wrote:People choose or switch to virtual or in person for lots of different reasons. It’s impossible to draw any sweeping conclusion. FCPS concurrent plans are a disaster. Some people might have preferred the original plan, or they might have just given up on the school year. Parents without sick leave might not be able to afford any tiny chance that their kids catch covid and bring it home. Parents who don’t speak English or work out of the home might be trusting the school system to
provide an education. The new bus schedules might now work for some people.

I haven’t seen any updated numbers in Loudoun or FCPS with the virtual/in person breakdowns.


Yes, please don't generalize by virtual/hybrid numbers. We picked virtual because hybrid does not offer much to us, and we'd lose grandparent help. I would much rather have 5 day in-person with proper mitigation.

And it better be 5-day in the fall, or people will be seriously crushed, kids and parents.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't have research to pull from that would show an overall trend. But as a teacher who works at 2 schools, one very affluent, one not at all, I can anecdotally say that about 80% of my students at the affluent school are coming back to the building. About 35% of my students at the other one are.


It's also been in the news. Google works too. Stop asking people to do something you can easily do - look it up.
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Anonymous wrote:He's what parents feel as teachers lazy it up and refuse to work and are not held accountable



As a teacher, F**ck you. You have no f****ing clue about what this job is like, and the 70 hour weeks I and other ROUTINELY put in.
How dare you put the words teacher and lazy in the same sentence.


Honestly teachers should not even read these boards. They have gone all the way down the rabbit hole of being basically no better than the conspiracy theory boards, the subreddits full of disgruntled middle aged people, etc. They aren't helpful or even actually talking about anything, just constant echos about "lazy teachers"...congrats DCUM, you are about 2 degrees of separation from Qanon and the like.


Teachers have made themselves out to be the biggest whinners so you reap it



That’s because we have to deal with a public that has no clue how incredibly time consuming and draining this job is.
There’s a reason half of all teachers leave the profession. Within the first five years.
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Anonymous wrote:I guess we should all be glad he didn’t shoot up the room.


or storm the Capitol. Or maybe he did.
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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.



Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.


Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

Uhhhh at the FCPS school I work at, over 100 parents have switched their kid to virtual when given the opportunity last month.


Good, so it’ll be even easier to get RTS off the ground and help set protocols.


I mean, sure? But it is not the "majority of parents." It is a minority of parents. A minority of majority affluent parents. All the people screaming about "oh what about the most vulnerable." The most vulnerable and at risk students that are not logging on to do anything are remaining virtual.


DP. Do you really think the parents of the most-vulnerable students have the time to lobby against DL? Do you really think it’s easy for parents who *have* to leave the house for work to help their kids with DL? Thank god for the affluent parents who are doing the lobbying and speaking for the most vulnerable populations.


Get child care. The volume table don’t want to go back. It’s the affluent who can afford but refuse to pay for care having the fits.


I have no problem affording childcare, and I suspect you don’t either. The low-income parents who have to leave every day for work aren’t so lucky. They have to leave their kids at home to figure out DL for themselves. No wonder so many kids are checking out.


The narrative that the affluent are the ones who want schools open is disgusting and perverse. The data show low income children are falling behind. We have to educate them. Closed schools are creating enormous race, income, and gender inequality from women dropping out of the labor force in record numbers. That is what the social science says. UMC are using lower class kids as an excuse to sleep in and bake in pajamas.


You do realize that lower-income families and PoC are choosing distance learning at much higher rates than UMC/MC communities, right? Look at the differences between north and south Arlington.


What they choose is irrelevant. The data show they are falling behind. Society has a responsibility to educate them.



Yes, angry white men know better than the rest of us. Of course, we all need to listen to them.

What are you going to do? Round up all of the poor, brown kids and force your education on them?



Um, yes, that's literally what compulsory education is. And it's quite possible that it will resume before some people are ready. Then we'll either let their children continue to not be educated by very hard working but ineffective remote teachers or force them to go to school.
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I saw an interview with him. He was angry and is not at all a lunatic.
School systems that are refusing to open for in person learning are not following the science. And these are the same people who scream, "follow the science!" when it comes to mask wearing.

These systems are being held hostage by teachers' unions.
Maybe if they aren't paid unless they return, that might change.

BTW - teen suicide is significantly up. Reporting of abuse is down.
The ramifications of keeping schools closed are being ignored.
The cure cannot be worse than the disease. Right now, for kids, it is.
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Anonymous wrote:This guy is AWESOME. He DESTROYS the school board with FACTS and LOGIC. He reminds me of my hero Ben Shapiro.



How is “figure it out” facts and logic?


whoosh



What facts did this guy put forth?
That his garbage collectors faced a higher risk of getting Covid than teachers?
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Anonymous wrote:He's what parents feel as teachers lazy it up and refuse to work and are not held accountable



As a teacher, F**ck you. You have no f****ing clue about what this job is like, and the 70 hour weeks I and other ROUTINELY put in.
How dare you put the words teacher and lazy in the same sentence.


I spent 100 hours last week building a time machine. Guess what? I still can’t time travel
even though I worked hard!

Distance teaching doesn’t work no matter how hard anyone claims to work at it.



My kids are doing great with distance learning. *shrug*
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Anonymous wrote:This guy is AWESOME. He DESTROYS the school board with FACTS and LOGIC. He reminds me of my hero Ben Shapiro.



How is “figure it out” facts and logic?


whoosh



What facts did this guy put forth?
That his garbage collectors faced a higher risk of getting Covid than teachers?


whoosh x2

google "sarcasm"

DP
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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.



Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.


Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

Uhhhh at the FCPS school I work at, over 100 parents have switched their kid to virtual when given the opportunity last month.


Good, so it’ll be even easier to get RTS off the ground and help set protocols.


I mean, sure? But it is not the "majority of parents." It is a minority of parents. A minority of majority affluent parents. All the people screaming about "oh what about the most vulnerable." The most vulnerable and at risk students that are not logging on to do anything are remaining virtual.


DP. Do you really think the parents of the most-vulnerable students have the time to lobby against DL? Do you really think it’s easy for parents who *have* to leave the house for work to help their kids with DL? Thank god for the affluent parents who are doing the lobbying and speaking for the most vulnerable populations.


Get child care. The volume table don’t want to go back. It’s the affluent who can afford but refuse to pay for care having the fits.


I have no problem affording childcare, and I suspect you don’t either. The low-income parents who have to leave every day for work aren’t so lucky. They have to leave their kids at home to figure out DL for themselves. No wonder so many kids are checking out.


The narrative that the affluent are the ones who want schools open is disgusting and perverse. The data show low income children are falling behind. We have to educate them. Closed schools are creating enormous race, income, and gender inequality from women dropping out of the labor force in record numbers. That is what the social science says. UMC are using lower class kids as an excuse to sleep in and bake in pajamas.


You do realize that lower-income families and PoC are choosing distance learning at much higher rates than UMC/MC communities, right? Look at the differences between north and south Arlington.


What they choose is irrelevant. The data show they are falling behind. Society has a responsibility to educate them.



Yes, angry white men know better than the rest of us. Of course, we all need to listen to them.

What are you going to do? Round up all of the poor, brown kids and force your education on them?



Um, yes, that's literally what compulsory education is. And it's quite possible that it will resume before some people are ready. Then we'll either let their children continue to not be educated by very hard working but ineffective remote teachers or force them to go to school.


Sorry, just become some angry white man throws a temper tantrum, doesn't mean it will happen.

It's not 1952 anymore.
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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.



Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.


Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

Uhhhh at the FCPS school I work at, over 100 parents have switched their kid to virtual when given the opportunity last month.


Good, so it’ll be even easier to get RTS off the ground and help set protocols.


I mean, sure? But it is not the "majority of parents." It is a minority of parents. A minority of majority affluent parents. All the people screaming about "oh what about the most vulnerable." The most vulnerable and at risk students that are not logging on to do anything are remaining virtual.


DP. Do you really think the parents of the most-vulnerable students have the time to lobby against DL? Do you really think it’s easy for parents who *have* to leave the house for work to help their kids with DL? Thank god for the affluent parents who are doing the lobbying and speaking for the most vulnerable populations.


Get child care. The volume table don’t want to go back. It’s the affluent who can afford but refuse to pay for care having the fits.


I have no problem affording childcare, and I suspect you don’t either. The low-income parents who have to leave every day for work aren’t so lucky. They have to leave their kids at home to figure out DL for themselves. No wonder so many kids are checking out.


The narrative that the affluent are the ones who want schools open is disgusting and perverse. The data show low income children are falling behind. We have to educate them. Closed schools are creating enormous race, income, and gender inequality from women dropping out of the labor force in record numbers. That is what the social science says. UMC are using lower class kids as an excuse to sleep in and bake in pajamas.


You do realize that lower-income families and PoC are choosing distance learning at much higher rates than UMC/MC communities, right? Look at the differences between north and south Arlington.


What they choose is irrelevant. The data show they are falling behind. Society has a responsibility to educate them.



Yes, angry white men know better than the rest of us. Of course, we all need to listen to them.

What are you going to do? Round up all of the poor, brown kids and force your education on them?



Absolutely not. They don’t actually care. They just want to trumpet the “failure” of these kids to push boards to open for their privileged white kids. They never cared about marginalized students before, still don’t know, they’re just seen as useful, and will forget all about them again once their kids are in a building.


Yup. Next year they'll be fearmongering about gangs.
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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.



Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.


Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

Uhhhh at the FCPS school I work at, over 100 parents have switched their kid to virtual when given the opportunity last month.


Good, so it’ll be even easier to get RTS off the ground and help set protocols.


I mean, sure? But it is not the "majority of parents." It is a minority of parents. A minority of majority affluent parents. All the people screaming about "oh what about the most vulnerable." The most vulnerable and at risk students that are not logging on to do anything are remaining virtual.


DP. Do you really think the parents of the most-vulnerable students have the time to lobby against DL? Do you really think it’s easy for parents who *have* to leave the house for work to help their kids with DL? Thank god for the affluent parents who are doing the lobbying and speaking for the most vulnerable populations.


Get child care. The volume table don’t want to go back. It’s the affluent who can afford but refuse to pay for care having the fits.


I have no problem affording childcare, and I suspect you don’t either. The low-income parents who have to leave every day for work aren’t so lucky. They have to leave their kids at home to figure out DL for themselves. No wonder so many kids are checking out.


The narrative that the affluent are the ones who want schools open is disgusting and perverse. The data show low income children are falling behind. We have to educate them. Closed schools are creating enormous race, income, and gender inequality from women dropping out of the labor force in record numbers. That is what the social science says. UMC are using lower class kids as an excuse to sleep in and bake in pajamas.


You do realize that lower-income families and PoC are choosing distance learning at much higher rates than UMC/MC communities, right? Look at the differences between north and south Arlington.


What they choose is irrelevant. The data show they are falling behind. Society has a responsibility to educate them.



Yes, angry white men know better than the rest of us. Of course, we all need to listen to them.

What are you going to do? Round up all of the poor, brown kids and force your education on them?



Um, yes, that's literally what compulsory education is. And it's quite possible that it will resume before some people are ready. Then we'll either let their children continue to not be educated by very hard working but ineffective remote teachers or force them to go to school.


Sorry, just become some angry white man throws a temper tantrum, doesn't mean it will happen.

It's not 1952 anymore.


He is representative of millions out there.
And, you know who is suffering the worse the longer schools stay closed?
Poor students. Students of color. Immigrant students. Students with disabilities.
That "white man" was speaking for them too..
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