Are you alluding that the measure of success is by the selection of its players in top colleges? What if an ECNL player desperately wants to attend Johns Hopkins, MIT, or University of Chicago instead of powerhouse soccer programs like Stanford and UCLA? McLean ECNL is a great program, and has been for quite some time now. But their measure of success isn't 'our players go to the best colleges' because the choice of college is up to the player. If you'd like to really see if McLean is successful, you could look at the success of players that do choose powerhouse soccer programs. I'd be interested to see how many honors, national championships, etc they bring home. |
“Are you alluding that the measure of success is by the selection of its players in top colleges?” Yes, yes I am. And btw MIT and JH and UoC are great schools, so if it helps them get in there or pay less, then success there too. As far as how well they do in college soccer, gimme a break. It’s enough to get in, especially for the women. There is rarely if ever anything lucrative in women’s soccer beyond that. |
Well if it’s your DD, already a loser unless her D1 school gets her on an ACTUAL career path. Cause NWSL is over soon. And if DS... we’ll if he’s headed to college I guess likely not gonna be a professional. So good on you for... paying a lot of money to travel soccer? Yeah. |
McLean's list of recent recruits is very impressive! ...including a 2019 MIT recruit and a 2020 Carnegie Mellon recruit, as well as Yale, Navy (multiple), Dartmouth (multiple), Georgetown (multiple) https://www.mcleansoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=706948 |
You sound like you have trouble following. No ones talking about the merits of ECNL relative inits cost. That’s a different thread. We’re talking about success of McLean ECNL players in the context of soccer and scholarships for most youths. But since you raised the issue. The difference between regular travel and ECNL is about $3500 per year. Multiply that by 5 years (8th grade thru Sr. Year) that’s $17500. That will be covered over four years of scholarships at a D1 school or by first few years of salary if the kid attends MIT etc. Plus kid has fun, competes, exercises, learns how to do their best. All in all, worth the cost. Sorry you can’t afford it. The rest of us in this thread can. |
The flippant arrogance transmitted in this post verifies this as a genuine McLean parent. The answer does beg the question of how much of these "placements" (especially the more recent ones) are actually the result of the parents paying the tuition for their kid to sit bench at a top academic or D1 school. Based on the "talent" on display on most of the teams, I'll bet that number is high. |
This is pretty appalling math and incremental cost-benefit analysis. Your kid will need all the help she can get unless the apple fell very far from the tree. |
Signing a National Letter of Intent means they are receiving scholarship money. |
Yes, for D1 and D2. Navy is a full ride regardless. MIT and Carnegie Mellon are D3 - so no scholarship, but if soccer helped to sweeten the admissions, that's a huge plus. |
Please explain "telent" on display. Are you saying the players are not good? |
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Travel soccer should have a big sign on it displaying "for entertainment purposes only".
If your child is destined to become a professional in this sport, you will not have to pay, people will be tripping over each other's feet for your kid to be a part of their program for free. And if they attract that much attention, DC United or some other club will come calling. |
Not if they are female. The goal is a college scholarship or at the least something that compels a top school to accept them when with just academics they might not. I continue to be surprised at how dumb so many troll posters there are. First if your daughter gets a D1 scholarship or gets into a top school because soccer helps them gain admission. Then it pays off. Period. The math is indisputable, but maybe you failed basic math. If you daughter doesn’t get a scholarship or get into a top school, then ECNL/GA does not payoff financially but your kid will have competed at a high level and learned, and again if you can afford it, why not? Just a lot of jealous, petty trolls toting the same old naysayer lines. Oh, and if I sound arrogant it’s because I’ve earned it unlike you. |
| What if your DD put all that extra time spent playing soccer into her academics instead? |
She would be half of a developed person. |
Most if not all of those recruits did. I know a few from last year. They were tippy top students in their schools as well as being ECNL players. Where they landed has more to do with their grades than their soccer skills. |