The Purple Line builders want out

[Anonymous]

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Yeah, that train going by says it all. It used to be so nice.

There has always been a train going by. There was always going to be a train going by.

Huh? You mean those old abandoned train tracks off in the weeds? No trains went by on those tracks, at least not in our lifetimes.

They did in my lifetime, I am not that old. Coal cars being run to Georgetown.

Me, too. I’m 47 and grew up in Chevy Chase. There also used to be a concrete plant where Rio Grande is now.

[Anonymous]

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I don't live in a 2 million dollar home. I live in a low income rental apartment. We don't even have a yard. We used to use the trail every single day in good weather to go to the [PUBLIC] pool and just to get some exercise. My kids rode their bikes on it. It was always in use. It was a beautiful resource in a crowded area and now it's been ruined. How much overcrowding to you think this area can take before it becomes a crap place -- for everyone -- to live?

It will continue to always be in use, when the Purple Line is built.

Now I am wondering, though, which neighborhood includes "low income rental apartments" in biking distance of a public pool and has the money to pay environmental consultants to look for amphipods. Not to mention lawyers to file lawsuits. There's the Bethesda outdoor pool, but it's unaffected by Purple Line construction. You certainly could bike from, say, Lyttonsville to the Bethesda outdoor pool, but it's a longer bike trip for kids than people in this area would typically undertake.

The Rock Creek pool off Grubb RD north of EW matches the description.

It's not a "[PUBLIC] pool," though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re clearly threatened locally by the construction. Once extirpated from an area, they aren’t likely to return. That makes them threatened.

I’m not a wildlife expert, so that’s a question for the people who understand it better than I.

In any case, the court will have plenty of time to go over all the findings of the survey.

Years, probably.

That's so not the way NEPA works that I don't even have words for it.

Again, I’m not the environmental expert. I just know the results of the survey undertaken, and the four species of local concern that were identified.

There will be plenty of opportunities for the Maryland Department of the Environment to conduct their own studies next year to confirm the results that the survey company we hired found. The courts will surely make time available for them to do so.

I just hope it’s not too late for these poor creatures.

"I just hope it's not too late for these poor creatures." Same could be said of Montgomery County residents' economic prospects after this fiasco...

Uh, I LIVE in MoCo. I pay taxes here, too.

And I didn’t vote for this boondoggle, or anyone who supported it. And I’m doing my best to help shut it down, even though I know it’s wasted my money as a taxpayer.

And the more you fight to shut it down, the more you'll end up paying. The trail lovers have already lost the tunnel that would've gone under Wisconsin Ave.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re clearly threatened locally by the construction. Once extirpated from an area, they aren’t likely to return. That makes them threatened.

I’m not a wildlife expert, so that’s a question for the people who understand it better than I.

In any case, the court will have plenty of time to go over all the findings of the survey.

Years, probably.

That's so not the way NEPA works that I don't even have words for it.

Again, I’m not the environmental expert. I just know the results of the survey undertaken, and the four species of local concern that were identified.

There will be plenty of opportunities for the Maryland Department of the Environment to conduct their own studies next year to confirm the results that the survey company we hired found. The courts will surely make time available for them to do so.

I just hope it’s not too late for these poor creatures.

"I just hope it's not too late for these poor creatures." Same could be said of Montgomery County residents' economic prospects after this fiasco...

Uh, I LIVE in MoCo. I pay taxes here, too.

And I didn’t vote for this boondoggle, or anyone who supported it. And I’m doing my best to help shut it down, even though I know it’s wasted my money as a taxpayer.

And the more you fight to shut it down, the more you'll end up paying. The trail lovers have already lost the tunnel that would've gone under Wisconsin Ave.

There might not be a train going under Wisconsin either, if any of our suits are successful

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re clearly threatened locally by the construction. Once extirpated from an area, they aren’t likely to return. That makes them threatened.

I’m not a wildlife expert, so that’s a question for the people who understand it better than I.

In any case, the court will have plenty of time to go over all the findings of the survey.

Years, probably.

That's so not the way NEPA works that I don't even have words for it.

Again, I’m not the environmental expert. I just know the results of the survey undertaken, and the four species of local concern that were identified.

There will be plenty of opportunities for the Maryland Department of the Environment to conduct their own studies next year to confirm the results that the survey company we hired found. The courts will surely make time available for them to do so.

I just hope it’s not too late for these poor creatures.

"I just hope it's not too late for these poor creatures." Same could be said of Montgomery County residents' economic prospects after this fiasco...

Uh, I LIVE in MoCo. I pay taxes here, too.

And I didn’t vote for this boondoggle, or anyone who supported it. And I’m doing my best to help shut it down, even though I know it’s wasted my money as a taxpayer.

And the more you fight to shut it down, the more you'll end up paying. The trail lovers have already lost the tunnel that would've gone under Wisconsin Ave.

There might not be a train going under Wisconsin either, if any of our suits are successful

You're filing a lawsuit against the Metro?

[Anonymous]

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And the more you fight to shut it down, the more you'll end up paying. The trail lovers have already lost the tunnel that would've gone under Wisconsin Ave.

No they haven't, the County Council voted to fund construction of a new one.

[Anonymous]

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And the more you fight to shut it down, the more you'll end up paying. The trail lovers have already lost the tunnel that would've gone under Wisconsin Ave.

No they haven't, the County Council voted to fund construction of a new one.

Uh yeah, good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

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Yeah, that train going by says it all. It used to be so nice.

There has always been a train going by. There was always going to be a train going by.

Huh? You mean those old abandoned train tracks off in the weeds? No trains went by on those tracks, at least not in our lifetimes.

They did in my lifetime, I am not that old. Coal cars being run to Georgetown.

Me, too. I’m 47 and grew up in Chevy Chase. There also used to be a concrete plant where Rio Grande is now.

I remember sitting in my mom’s big, blue LTD on Connecticut Avenue at Chevy Chase Lake waiting for the train to go by in the early 1970’s.

[Anonymous]

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And the more you fight to shut it down, the more you'll end up paying. The trail lovers have already lost the tunnel that would've gone under Wisconsin Ave.

No they haven't, the County Council voted to fund construction of a new one.

Uh yeah, good luck with that.

Here it is: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/montgomery-county-council-funds-549-million-trail-tunnel-in-downtown-bethesda/2020/04/30/b9db5bac-8b2c-11ea-9dfd-990f9dcc71fc_story.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:They’re clearly threatened locally by the construction. Once extirpated from an area, they aren’t likely to return. That makes them threatened.

I’m not a wildlife expert, so that’s a question for the people who understand it better than I.

In any case, the court will have plenty of time to go over all the findings of the survey.

Years, probably.

That's so not the way NEPA works that I don't even have words for it.

Again, I’m not the environmental expert. I just know the results of the survey undertaken, and the four species of local concern that were identified.

There will be plenty of opportunities for the Maryland Department of the Environment to conduct their own studies next year to confirm the results that the survey company we hired found. The courts will surely make time available for them to do so.

I just hope it’s not too late for these poor creatures.

"I just hope it's not too late for these poor creatures." Same could be said of Montgomery County residents' economic prospects after this fiasco...

Uh, I LIVE in MoCo. I pay taxes here, too.

And I didn’t vote for this boondoggle, or anyone who supported it. And I’m doing my best to help shut it down, even though I know it’s wasted my money as a taxpayer.

And the more you fight to shut it down, the more you'll end up paying. The trail lovers have already lost the tunnel that would've gone under Wisconsin Ave.

Wait I'm confused - I thought the people fighting the Purple Line are trail lovers?

http://savethetrail.org/the-benefits/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re clearly threatened locally by the construction. Once extirpated from an area, they aren’t likely to return. That makes them threatened.

I’m not a wildlife expert, so that’s a question for the people who understand it better than I.

In any case, the court will have plenty of time to go over all the findings of the survey.

Years, probably.

That's so not the way NEPA works that I don't even have words for it.

Again, I’m not the environmental expert. I just know the results of the survey undertaken, and the four species of local concern that were identified.

There will be plenty of opportunities for the Maryland Department of the Environment to conduct their own studies next year to confirm the results that the survey company we hired found. The courts will surely make time available for them to do so.

I just hope it’s not too late for these poor creatures.

"I just hope it's not too late for these poor creatures." Same could be said of Montgomery County residents' economic prospects after this fiasco...

Uh, I LIVE in MoCo. I pay taxes here, too.

And I didn’t vote for this boondoggle, or anyone who supported it. And I’m doing my best to help shut it down, even though I know it’s wasted my money as a taxpayer.

And the more you fight to shut it down, the more you'll end up paying. The trail lovers have already lost the tunnel that would've gone under Wisconsin Ave.

Wait I'm confused - I thought the people fighting the Purple Line are trail lovers?

http://savethetrail.org/the-benefits/

No the people fighting the Purple Line are privileged Bethesda and Chevy Chase residents whose properties abut the line. They are trying to destroy the project just to prevent a train from running through their backyards. They are very selfish and self-centered people. They bought their properties knowing that these plans were there. Their properties were valued less than similar properties that were further away from the train line and they took that discount. Now they want to stop the line so that their properties will appreciate from NOT being next to a train line and they will take advantage of having prime real estate whenever they decided to sell. For them, they took advantage of the system and now are trying to destroy the original plans.

They will lose, but it will cost the state and counties millions of dollars. I really hope that the counties find a way to penalize the residents that live near the train line for all of the delays and expenses they've caused. They will have deserved it.

[Anonymous]

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Wait I'm confused - I thought the people fighting the Purple Line are trail lovers?

http://savethetrail.org/the-benefits/

Yeah, it's confusing.

The Coalition for the Capital Crescent Trail https://www.cctrail.org/ is the group for the trail lovers. They never took a position on the Purple Line, for or against.

The Friends of the Capital Crescent Trail http://savethetrail.org/ is the group for people who owned backyard sheds in the railroad right-of-way. They're the ones who opposed the Purple Line, for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous]

I just moved from one neighborhood in CCMD near a proposed PL station to another neighborhood in CCMD near a proposed PL station and lots of people in both are happy to be near these as it will increase our property values. In fact I know at least 3 people holding off on selling until the PL is complete.

[Anonymous]

Woohoo!

[Anonymous]

That project is cursed.