Let’s Talk APS High Schools: 4th one or no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:APS isn’t going to change class size policy just for Yorktown. If they start having to to go over policy, that’s going to push a boundary redraw to shift more planning units to schools that can take trailers.

Each school works within the policy. Many schools try to have fewer kids/class than the policy. If a school doesn’t have room to grow more classrooms they may have to go right up to the policy limits on classroom size. And isn’t the policy defined by the average class size per school? Some classes might have to go over so they can keep some smaller (SpEd).

[Anonymous]

Has a anyone started a Change.org petition to send to the County Board to demand they stop the vanity pool (love a pp’s term) at Long Bridge and reallocate that funding TJ the pool at the career center. If the County Board would step up and do it’s part, APS could actually afford to do the right thing and that part of the county would enjoy a great pool! (Instead of DC and Alexandria residents.)

Guarantee we could get 1,000 signatures in less than a week!

[Anonymous]

funding “to” (typo)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m late to this thread, but I live close to the Career Center (though south of the Pike). Like the rest of the neighborhood I’d be thrilled by a 4th comprehensive high school walkable to us. The demographic issue for Wakefield is concerning, but until the boundaries (or the advent of affordable housing) change in a meaningful way that’s going to be stuck where it is.

Lol, that you wrote "is concerning" and not "concerns me."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think its all in your definition of 'comprehensive.'
Do we need more high school seats- of course.
Is that best served through a 4th neighborhood high school? maybe.
Does that 4th high school need green space- yes.
Does the 4th high school need a pool- not when you look at the tradeoffs.
The pool is one of the most important things to be put in. Clearly it is a community benefit, but it is not really a 'school' benefit. I can't see spending funds and land that are desperately needed elsewhere to put in a 4th pool, especially given the long branch aquatics center.

Yes, the 4th high school needs an aquatic center for school AND community use, same as the other high schools, and they are all heavily used.
It will be in the perfect walkable location, which is a great benefit for high school students as well as seniors.
The Long Branch aquatic center on the other hand is a vanity project that we cannot afford right now. It would end up serving a ton of DC residents, subsidized by the Arlington taxpayer. I really don’t know what they were thinking, approving this project to move forward, when we have so many more important projects to finance.

Let me just guess ... you live nearby

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think its all in your definition of 'comprehensive.'
Do we need more high school seats- of course.
Is that best served through a 4th neighborhood high school? maybe.
Does that 4th high school need green space- yes.
Does the 4th high school need a pool- not when you look at the tradeoffs.
The pool is one of the most important things to be put in. Clearly it is a community benefit, but it is not really a 'school' benefit. I can't see spending funds and land that are desperately needed elsewhere to put in a 4th pool, especially given the long branch aquatics center.

Yes, the 4th high school needs an aquatic center for school AND community use, same as the other high schools, and they are all heavily used.
It will be in the perfect walkable location, which is a great benefit for high school students as well as seniors.
The Long Branch aquatic center on the other hand is a vanity project that we cannot afford right now. It would end up serving a ton of DC residents, subsidized by the Arlington taxpayer. I really don’t know what they were thinking, approving this project to move forward, when we have so many more important projects to finance.

Let me just guess ... you live nearby

NP. So what if she lives near by. Long Bridge is a vanity project and no one wants to send their kids to a 4th HS that isn’t comparable in offerings to the other 3. You want your kid to miss class before and after PE to be bussed for the required swim lessons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think its all in your definition of 'comprehensive.'
Do we need more high school seats- of course.
Is that best served through a 4th neighborhood high school? maybe.
Does that 4th high school need green space- yes.
Does the 4th high school need a pool- not when you look at the tradeoffs.
The pool is one of the most important things to be put in. Clearly it is a community benefit, but it is not really a 'school' benefit. I can't see spending funds and land that are desperately needed elsewhere to put in a 4th pool, especially given the long branch aquatics center.

Yes, the 4th high school needs an aquatic center for school AND community use, same as the other high schools, and they are all heavily used.
It will be in the perfect walkable location, which is a great benefit for high school students as well as seniors.
The Long Branch aquatic center on the other hand is a vanity project that we cannot afford right now. It would end up serving a ton of DC residents, subsidized by the Arlington taxpayer. I really don’t know what they were thinking, approving this project to move forward, when we have so many more important projects to finance.

Let me just guess ... you live nearby

NP. So what if she lives near by. Long Bridge is a vanity project and no one wants to send their kids to a 4th HS that isn’t comparable in offerings to the other 3. You want your kid to miss class before and after PE to be bussed for the required swim lessons?

Exactly
Lots of assholes here want the CC to be a “4th” high school in name only. Make it some BS program that someone else’s kid can go to. That way they can keep WL and Yorktown as they are. Sorry but no. If you want the local community ty to take it up the ass with the massive YEARS LONG headaches and disruption, building at the career center entails, they get a kick ass school for their troubles. It’s only fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has a anyone started a Change.org petition to send to the County Board to demand they stop the vanity pool (love a pp’s term) at Long Bridge and reallocate that funding TJ the pool at the career center. If the County Board would step up and do it’s part, APS could actually afford to do the right thing and that part of the county would enjoy a great pool! (Instead of DC and Alexandria residents.)

Guarantee we could get 1,000 signatures in less than a week!

PP here. I believe it would get the signatures! And I’d be first to sign.
The vanity pool needs to be tabled.

Speaking of which: (a parody on the aquatic center)

http://youtu.be/P0Ezgr0w8-0

[Anonymous]

^ How can one embed this video here?

I laughed tears!

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has a anyone started a Change.org petition to send to the County Board to demand they stop the vanity pool (love a pp’s term) at Long Bridge and reallocate that funding TJ the pool at the career center. If the County Board would step up and do it’s part, APS could actually afford to do the right thing and that part of the county would enjoy a great pool! (Instead of DC and Alexandria residents.)

Guarantee we could get 1,000 signatures in less than a week!

PP here. I believe it would get the signatures! And I’d be first to sign.
The vanity pool needs to be tabled.

Speaking of which: (a parody on the aquatic center)

http://youtu.be/P0Ezgr0w8-0

I doubt it's legal to just redirect bond money that was voted on 2+ years ago. And spare me the it's only fair argument. One looks at the civic assns webpage tells you what the basis of the neighborhoods support: increasing property values and avoiding Wakefield. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has a anyone started a Change.org petition to send to the County Board to demand they stop the vanity pool (love a pp’s term) at Long Bridge and reallocate that funding TJ the pool at the career center. If the County Board would step up and do it’s part, APS could actually afford to do the right thing and that part of the county would enjoy a great pool! (Instead of DC and Alexandria residents.)

Guarantee we could get 1,000 signatures in less than a week!

PP here. I believe it would get the signatures! And I’d be first to sign.
The vanity pool needs to be tabled.

Speaking of which: (a parody on the aquatic center)

http://youtu.be/P0Ezgr0w8-0

I doubt it's legal to just redirect bond money that was voted on 2+ years ago. And spare me the it's only fair argument. One looks at the civic assns webpage tells you what the basis of the neighborhoods support: increasing property values and avoiding Wakefield. Period.

Tell that to the streetcar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS isn’t going to change class size policy just for Yorktown. If they start having to to go over policy, that’s going to push a boundary redraw to shift more planning units to schools that can take trailers.

Each school works within the policy. Many schools try to have fewer kids/class than the policy. If a school doesn’t have room to grow more classrooms they may have to go right up to the policy limits on classroom size. And isn’t the policy defined by the average class size per school? Some classes might have to go over so they can keep some smaller (SpEd).

Yep, middle school boundaries all over again. How well did it work out for you that time, assuming the SB would send *someone* to Williamsburg who didn’t want to be moved so you could have your preferred school and not have it be overcrowded?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has a anyone started a Change.org petition to send to the County Board to demand they stop the vanity pool (love a pp’s term) at Long Bridge and reallocate that funding TJ the pool at the career center. If the County Board would step up and do it’s part, APS could actually afford to do the right thing and that part of the county would enjoy a great pool! (Instead of DC and Alexandria residents.)

Guarantee we could get 1,000 signatures in less than a week!

PP here. I believe it would get the signatures! And I’d be first to sign.
The vanity pool needs to be tabled.

Speaking of which: (a parody on the aquatic center)

http://youtu.be/P0Ezgr0w8-0

I doubt it's legal to just redirect bond money that was voted on 2+ years ago. And spare me the it's only fair argument. One looks at the civic assns webpage tells you what the basis of the neighborhoods support: increasing property values and avoiding Wakefield. Period.

I live in that neighborhood and honestly don’t know why you say that. We are worried about our property values going DOWN, which they certainly would if we are rezoned to a crap warehouse school with zero fields or other amenities . If I had a problem with Wakefield, I would not have bought the house in the first place. This neighborhood has always been zoned Wakefield.

[Anonymous]

It is not illegal to cancel the Long Bridge pool project. Also not illegal for the County Board to allocate bonding capacity to the School Board.

Also not illegal for the County Board to build the pool complex that was voted on in the bond at the Career Centr. The bond doesn’t lock in location.

Think bigger, people.