AAP Letter today?

[Anonymous]

Cogat 136
NNAT 132
GBRS 13
DRA 38

IN!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this AAP thing is pretty stupid and unfair.
I don't know where to start accusing the stupidity and unfairness of this AAP thing.
My 4th grade daughter's scores are high:
COGAT 133
score 99 percent on her SOL
she is doing 5th grade math exercise book at home with ease and almost finishes this book.

yet I just got a rejection letter today.

When I came to USA as a teenager (ESL student), I asked the school counselor at Mark Twain Middle School to put me into the GT courses after completed ESL. I did well. I didn't take any of these COGAT and NAT tests like my 9 years old dtr. She knows so much more than me when I was at her age and her reading is superior.

Anyway, oh well, I don't care anymore and don't want to appeal/ fight this stupid / unfair AAP thing.

I guess if my English and reading were poor back then and I managed to get into UVA and my counselor even suggested that I should had applied for Princeton that she honestly believe I could get in (she said Harvard and Stanford are tricky because one one could predict what they do).

So be it..... I let my dtr enjoys her childhood and learns what she can (more) from at the comfort of her home

I will push her once she reaches middle school and definitely more so starting her 9th grade, that's when it counts (more or less)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this AAP thing is pretty stupid and unfair.
I don't know where to start accusing the stupidity and unfairness of this AAP thing. (first of all, talking to some parents at her school, the kids who got in to Level 4 AAP with scores in the high 80 percentile or low 90 percentile of their COGAT.

My 4th grade daughter's scores are high:

COGAT 133
score 99 percent on her SOL
she is doing 5th grade math exercise book at home with ease and almost finishes this book.
Articulate, Smart, funny etc.
her report cards have been very good too.

yet I just got a rejection letter today.

When I came to USA as a teenager (ESL student), I asked the school counselor at Mark Twain Middle School to put me into the GT courses after completed ESL. I did well. I didn't take any of these COGAT and NAT tests like my 9 years old dtr. She knows so much more than me when I was at her age and her reading is superior.

Anyway, oh well, I don't care anymore and don't want to appeal/ fight this stupid / unfair AAP thing.

I guess if my English and reading were poor back then and I managed to get into UVA and my counselor even suggested that I should had applied for Princeton that she honestly believe I could get in (she said Harvard and Stanford are tricky because one one could predict what they do).

So be it..... I let my dtr enjoys her childhood and learns what she can (more) from at the comfort of her home

I will push her once she reaches middle school and definitely more so starting her 9th grade, that's when it counts (more or less)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this AAP thing is pretty stupid and unfair.
I don't know where to start accusing the stupidity and unfairness of this AAP thing.
My 4th dtr scores are high:
COGAT 133
score 99 percent on her SOL
she is doing 5th grade math exercise book at home with ease and almost finishes this book.

yet we just got a rejection letter today.

When I came to USA as a teenager (ESL student), I asked the school counselor at Mark Twain Middle School to put me into the GT courses after completed ESL. I did well. I didn't take any of these COGAT and NAT tests like my 9 years old dtr. She knows so much more than me when I was at her age and her reading is superior.

Anyway, oh well, I don't care anymore and don't want to appeal/ fight this stupid / unfair AAP thing.

I guess if my English and reading were poor back then and I managed to get into UVA and my counselor even suggested that I should had applied for Princeton that she honestly believe I could get in (she said Harvard and Stanford are tricky because one one could predict what they do).

So be it..... I let my dtr enjoys her childhood and learns what she can (more) from at the comfort of her home

I will push her once she reaches middle school and definitely more so starting her 9th grade, that's when it counts (more or less)

The process isn't perfect. Request a copy of her file from the AART and consider an appeal. You are your DD's best advocate.

[Anonymous]

My daughter made it in. She was a 120 NNAT, 134 CoGat. I don't know if it matters, but she's on the younger side of the grade so her percentiles were pretty high, and the verbal was her highest section. No idea what the GBRS is. Her DRA was a 24 at the end of 1st grade, I don't think I've ever seen an updated score since then. But watching the way she reads, and the verbal score above, I'd guess it is pretty good, whatever it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this AAP thing is pretty stupid and unfair.
I don't know where to start accusing the stupidity and unfairness of this AAP thing. (first of all, talking to some parents at her school, the kids who got in to Level 4 AAP with scores in the high 80 percentile or low 90 percentile of their COGAT. I think some people have connections or whatever)

My 4th grade daughter's scores are high:

COGAT 133
score 99 percent on her SOL
she is doing 5th grade math exercise book at home with ease and almost finishes this book.
Articulate, Smart, funny etc.
her report cards have been very good too.

yet I just got a rejection letter today.

When I came to USA as a teenager (ESL student), I asked the school counselor at Mark Twain Middle School to put me into the GT courses after completed ESL. I did well. I didn't take any of these COGAT and NAT tests like my 9 years old dtr. She knows so much more than me when I was at her age and her reading is superior.

Anyway, oh well, I don't care anymore and don't want to appeal/ fight this stupid / unfair AAP thing.

I guess if my English and reading were poor back then and I managed to get into UVA and my counselor even suggested that I should had applied for Princeton that she honestly believe I could get in (she said Harvard and Stanford are tricky because one one could never predict what they do).

So be it..... I let my dtr enjoys her childhood and learns what she can (more) from at the comfort of her home

I will push her once she reaches middle school and definitely more so starting her 9th grade, that's when it counts (more or less)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this AAP thing is pretty stupid and unfair.
I don't know where to start accusing the stupidity and unfairness of this AAP thing. (first of all, talking to some parents at her school, the kids who got in to Level 4 AAP with scores in the high 80 percentile or low 90 percentile of their COGAT. I think some people have connections or whatever)

My 4th grade daughter's scores are high:

COGAT 133
score 99 percent on her SOL
she is doing 5th grade math exercise book at home with ease and almost finishes this book.
Articulate, Smart, funny etc.
her report cards have been very good too.

yet I just got a rejection letter today.

When I came to USA as a teenager (ESL student), I asked the school counselor at Mark Twain Middle School to put me into the GT courses after completed ESL. I did well. I didn't take any of these COGAT and NAT tests like my 9 years old dtr. She knows so much more than me when I was at her age and her reading is superior.

Anyway, oh well, I don't care anymore and don't want to appeal/ fight this stupid / unfair AAP thing.

I guess if my English and reading were poor back then and I managed to get into UVA and my counselor even suggested that I should had applied for Princeton that she honestly believe I could get in (she said Harvard and Stanford are tricky because one one could never predict what they do).

So be it..... I let my dtr enjoys her childhood and learns what she can (more) from at the comfort of her home

I will push her once she reaches middle school and definitely more so starting her 9th grade, that's when it counts (more or less)

You should appeal. What was your DD GBRS? Something seems off. Did your DD gave Cogat again? If so, check the submitted score with AART, earlier in a this forum, I read one parent got rejection however she found out that old Cogat score was submitted by verifying the submitted file. Could it be the case?

Keep positive attitude, calling AAP stupid or downplaying its role upon rejection will not help!

[Anonymous]

yeah, I believe probably her school AART may had something to do with this process ??

I had to fight from day one to get her into Level 2 for her 3rd grade at her local school base AAP program. And then I had to fight again to get her into Level 3 there. I really don't want to go into details for fear of creating (more) frictions or animosities. I want my dtr enjoys her time next year as a 5th grader there.

This whole AAP thing is out of the child's or parent's control....

Anyway, congrats to the ones who got in!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:yeah, I believe probably her school AART teacher may had something to do with this process ??

I had to fight from day one to get her into Level 2 for her 3rd grade at her local school base AAP program. And then I had to fight again to get her into Level 3 there. I really don't want to go into details for fear of creating (more) frictions or animosities. I want my dtr enjoys her time next year as a 5th grader there.

This whole AAP thing is out of the child's or parent's control....

Anyway, congrats to the ones who got in!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:yeah, I believe probably her school AART may had something to do with this process ??

I had to fight from day one to get her into Level 2 for her 3rd grade at her local school base AAP program. And then I had to fight again to get her into Level 3 there. I really don't want to go into details for fear of creating (more) frictions or animosities. I want my dtr enjoys her time next year as a 5th grader there.

This whole AAP thing is out of the child's or parent's control....

Anyway, congrats to the ones who got in!


PS: I wanted my dtr stays at her local school even if she got accepted into Level 4 center based AAP. (but i was looking ahead after she finishes her elementary school and moves into her middle school. I thought with Level 4 AAP label, she would be guaranteed an AAP spot at her middle school).
Right now, she is at Level 3 (level 3 and 4 mixture) at her local school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:yeah, I believe probably her school AART may had something to do with this process ??

I had to fight from day one to get her into Level 2 for her 3rd grade at her local school base AAP program. And then I had to fight again to get her into Level 3 for her 4th grader there. I really don't want to go into details for fear of creating (more) frictions or animosities. I want my dtr enjoys her time next year as a 5th grader there.

This whole AAP thing is out of the child's or parent's control....

Anyway, congrats to the ones who got in!


PS: I wanted my dtr stays at her local school even if she got accepted into Level 4 center based AAP. (but i was looking ahead after she finishes her elementary school and moves into her middle school. I thought with Level 4 AAP label, she would be guaranteed an AAP spot at her middle school).
Right now, she is at Level 3 (level 3 and 4 mixture) at her local school. Per her school, Level 2 or 3 is not a guarantee for AAP program. (unlike a Level 4 label in her record)

[Anonymous]

Received letter today.

CoGAT
Composite: 143
Verbal: 127
Quantitative: 141
Nonverbal: 140
NNAT: 124
DRA: 34
GBRS: 13

DS has 2s in self-control, and bunch of 3s in other citizenship skills in report cards. Reading is above grade level, but not math.
Submitted the parental questionnaire. Interesting thing is his 2nd grade teacher was not in the GBRS committee.

Zip: 22180

IN.

Thanks all previous posters who shared their DCs scores and experiences! It really helped me to stay sane

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:yeah, I believe probably her school AART may had something to do with this process ??

I had to fight from day one to get her into Level 2 for her 3rd grade at her local school base AAP program. And then I had to fight again to get her into Level 3 for her 4th grader there. I really don't want to go into details for fear of creating (more) frictions or animosities. I want my dtr enjoys her time next year as a 5th grader there.

This whole AAP thing is out of the child's or parent's control....

Anyway, congrats to the ones who got in!


PS: I wanted my dtr stays at her local school even if she got accepted into Level 4 center based AAP. (but i was looking ahead after she finishes her elementary school and moves into her middle school. I thought with Level 4 AAP label, she would be guaranteed an AAP spot at her middle school).
Right now, she is at Level 3 (level 3 and 4 mixture) at her local school. Per her school, Level 2 or 3 is not a guarantee for AAP program. (unlike a Level 4 label in her record)

Doesn't middle school offer honors classes equivalent of AAP for everyone?

[Anonymous]

3rd Grader

Cogat 140
NNAT 138
GBRS 12
DRA 40

IN

22181

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:yeah, I believe probably her school AART may had something to do with this process ??

I had to fight from day one to get her into Level 2 for her 3rd grade at her local school base AAP program. And then I had to fight again to get her into Level 3 for her 4th grader there. I really don't want to go into details for fear of creating (more) frictions or animosities. I want my dtr enjoys her time next year as a 5th grader there.

This whole AAP thing is out of the child's or parent's control....

Anyway, congrats to the ones who got in!


PS: I wanted my dtr stays at her local school even if she got accepted into Level 4 center based AAP. (but i was looking ahead after she finishes her elementary school and moves into her middle school. I thought with Level 4 AAP label, she would be guaranteed an AAP spot at her middle school).
Right now, she is at Level 3 (level 3 and 4 mixture) at her local school. Per her school, Level 2 or 3 is not a guarantee for AAP program. (unlike a Level 4 label in her record)

Doesn't middle school offer honors classes equivalent of AAP for everyone?

I am not an expert since i finished fairfax county school system long ago but my dtr's school counselor told me last year or two years ago, parents at middle schools and high schools can choose whatever classes for their kids without teachers' recommendations.

hmmm, another note, sometimes in September 2017, this counselor encouraged me to apply my dtr for the level 4 as she thinks my dtr has the "numbers." Her current AAP school base classroom teacher agreed to submit a referral on my behalf. At our most recent parent - teacher conference, her teacher told me that my dtr has the highest COGAT scores in her AAP class (level 3 & 4 mixed students)...

Of course, I am upset but then I realized that I must choose to fight my battles wisely and this is not one of them...
Everyone knows that life ain't fair
and I have been thru hell in my life here in the good old USA but I survive and succeed (well).
I hope my dtr's life journey will not be as hard..