South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Strange how?
FYI- even if you drew the line at George Mason, Randolph would still be very diverse and likely majority poor. We likely are talking about moving the farms rate from 75% to 55%.
But make no mistake that comes at the expense of Barcroft elementary. This situation blows and we can all thank the county board for it.

Got it. Would it be better then? It does come at their expense, which would sort of seem traitorous? I want to be the sort of person who believes in a rising tide lifting all ships, but there does seem to be the potential for improvements all around if Barcroft were a special program?

[Anonymous]

Would it be better for your kid to be zoned to a school that looks more like Henry’s demographics than the current Randolph?
Do I need to answer that?
Barcroft needs to be year round, six days a week, start at 6 am, go till 6pm, and provide 3 meals a day and send home dinner for Sunday. That’s what it will take to get those kids on track. That will cost APS and the county a fortune, but it’s whats needed. Much cheaper to have you send your kid there and keep that school accredited.
Does your kid need that? What does your kid need? Maybe it’s time to start fighting for it.

[Anonymous]

They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

Not talking about forcing anything. I’m talking about changing boundaries. That’s all. At some point you have to decide your child and your property values are worth the fight. Everyone else in the county has figured this out. Everyone else doesn’t care what you think of their orange t shirts, because they understand what is at stake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

And I will add, right now the area I’m discussing crosses George Mason. They cross a major road right now. There are still plenty of apartments that would still be zoned to the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

I am kind of new to the north side...but what elementary school(s) in NA did they put a "school within a school" 25 years ago?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

I am kind of new to the north side...but what elementary school(s) in NA did they put a "school within a school" 25 years ago?

It wasn’t really school within a school, but science focus, the team schools, and Key immersion was all about serving the middle class in that part of the county. I’m merely suggesting we get creative to do the same on the other side of the county.
That APS considers school within a school at Drew a failure, is a bit of a bitter pill to swallow. Many families felt very well served by the Montessori program at Drew. I do agree it’s perferable they have a dedicated building. It doesn’t negate the success of that program as it stands now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

I am kind of new to the north side...but what elementary school(s) in NA did they put a "school within a school" 25 years ago?

It wasn’t really school within a school, but science focus, the team schools, and Key immersion was all about serving the middle class in that part of the county. I’m merely suggesting we get creative to do the same on the other side of the county.
That APS considers school within a school at Drew a failure, is a bit of a bitter pill to swallow. Many families felt very well served by the Montessori program at Drew. I do agree it’s perferable they have a dedicated building. It doesn’t negate the success of that program as it stands now.

And guess what? All of those programs have been dismantled, THIS YEAR. They're not going to start them up again in south Arlington. They really don't care about you, but feel free to waste your time and make an a** of yourself in the process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

And I will add, right now the area I’m discussing crosses George Mason. They cross a major road right now. There are still plenty of apartments that would still be zoned to the school.

They are in the Randolph walk zone. They are not in the Barcroft walk zone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

I am kind of new to the north side...but what elementary school(s) in NA did they put a "school within a school" 25 years ago?

It wasn’t really school within a school, but science focus, the team schools, and Key immersion was all about serving the middle class in that part of the county. I’m merely suggesting we get creative to do the same on the other side of the county.
That APS considers school within a school at Drew a failure, is a bit of a bitter pill to swallow. Many families felt very well served by the Montessori program at Drew. I do agree it’s perferable they have a dedicated building. It doesn’t negate the success of that program as it stands now.

And guess what? All of those programs have been dismantled, THIS YEAR. They're not going to start them up again in south Arlington. They really don't care about you, but feel free to waste your time and make an a** of yourself in the process.

You seem very angry. I’m not sure why you are so emotional over this. This is the beginning of a discussion. It think it’s helpful to start thinking outside of the box.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

And I will add, right now the area I’m discussing crosses George Mason. They cross a major road right now. There are still plenty of apartments that would still be zoned to the school.

They are in the Randolph walk zone. They are not in the Barcroft walk zone.

Walk zones change when boundaries change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

I am kind of new to the north side...but what elementary school(s) in NA did they put a "school within a school" 25 years ago?

It wasn’t really school within a school, but science focus, the team schools, and Key immersion was all about serving the middle class in that part of the county. I’m merely suggesting we get creative to do the same on the other side of the county.
That APS considers school within a school at Drew a failure, is a bit of a bitter pill to swallow. Many families felt very well served by the Montessori program at Drew. I do agree it’s perferable they have a dedicated building. It doesn’t negate the success of that program as it stands now.

And guess what? All of those programs have been dismantled, THIS YEAR. They're not going to start them up again in south Arlington. They really don't care about you, but feel free to waste your time and make an a** of yourself in the process.

Can we talk about Drew Montessori here or is that a different thread? We live in Alcova Heights and were excited to learn that the Montessori was moving to Henry, placing a choice option within walking distance. Then we learned that the program was going to be designed to retain more of the kids who attended at the preschool level, making it harder for families to join in K. If we don't get a spot through the lottery in preschool, it sounded like we were locked out of that option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hide the lousy scores? Have you looked at Barcroft and Randolph's scores? I don't think anyone is hiding the fact that they are significantly below the county average.

You don’t understand how APS looks at it. They are accredited. They aren’t being taken over by the state=they are fine.

In the 4 years since I bought my house, the scores have dropped at Barcroft. We used them to choose between Barcroft or Randolph. If someone only has that to go on and really wanted to stay in this area, it would be enough to dissuade them from Barcroft. That, the the lack of any houses under $500K! I mean, what are we doing wrong here? We've gentrified the area - how are we still doing this poorly for those kids, not to mention the UMC ones.

No we haven’t. Sure, the single family homes are full of wealthy people, but Barcroft Apartments is still there...

They aren't the problem. That is mostly zoned for Randolph. It's Arlington Mill and the other buildings that I think changed the scores.

It’s the same thing. You haven’t gentrified that area. There are more poor families today than there were 12 years ago.
You guys have to let go of Barcroft elementary. You got played and that school ain’t recovering. Get your bus to Randolph and draw the line at George Mason. You have one chance next year to make this happen, or you’re putting in an application at our Savior Lutheran.

Mason does seem to be the gentrification line. I'm looking at the next school board meetings now.

I do have one question though: will it look strange if a non-white person starts asking these questions? I remember when CARD protested, it was an awfully pale looking group.

Aren't there SFH neighborhoods below Mason, like Columbia Forest? Or just on the other side, like Claremont? Or do those areas both go to Abingdon?