What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???
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Anonymous
NP - funny I heard Miller agree with April Ryan when she piped up that African Americans should be ahead of the illegals. How does this and the bold above square? |
Anonymous
You weren't talking to me but can I jump in? Miller knows nothing about Emma Lazarus. That's for starters. http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a56782/stephen-miller-jim-acosta/ So the attempted schooling was based wholly on wrong - dead-wrong - facts. I'll wait for your reasoned response. |
Anonymous
This is not a person "who knew his $hit", unless you meant that literally. http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1708/02/cnr.07.html |
Anonymous
If we're just going for popularity with women, Acosta beats Miller hands down. Acosta has plenty of hair, looks like George Clooney, and makes a ton more money than skinny boy. Acosta isn't perfect I'm sure . . . but Miller comes off as a total whiny jerk. |
Anonymous
| I watched the exchange before running into this thread, I don't see how anyone could think that Acosta won the exchange. Very clearly Miller had the upper hand in factual knowledge, historical context, and logic. |
Anonymous
Also doesn't know the difference between correlation and causation. That would be a major deal-breaker for me. |
I love it when yentas who watch the Bachelor and gush over some unemployed gym rat diss accomplished men:
Anonymous
Miller was 100% wrong about the history and context: Lazarus's poem on the statue was WRITTEN EXPRESSLY TO FUNDRAISE FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE BASE OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY. It's a fact. This is what actually happened. |
Anonymous
Except his interpretation of facts and thus interpretation of history are skewed towards and alt-right perspective. If you agree with that perspective, then I can understand how you would think he "won" the exchange. The fact is however, that his understanding of the significance of the poem as it relates to the significance of the statue are not shared with the overwhelming view and understanding of historians, literature and art historians nationally and internationally. |
Anonymous
It's not supposed to be a battle, is it? The administration may be confrontational and adversarial, but why does one side have to "have the upper hand"? Nor did Miller "win" in logic, because he so often was attributing arguments to others, Acosta and others, that they didn't say. He was arguing against himself, or against the public, not against the people asking him questions. He didn't answer those questions, either, but that's pretty normal for a politician. |
Anonymous
No woman on earth thinks that Miller > Acosta. Not even Miller's mom. |
Anonymous
Sounds pretty cosmopolitan to me. |
Anonymous
I didn't realize how bad Duke's reputation had become until I took my daughter there this summer to look at the school and possibly apply. Truthfully, given her grades, test scores and athletics, and other activities, Duke is more of a target than a reach for her. But, despite a lovely campus, and what look to be excellent academics, DD would not even consider it because of the bro reputation and vibe she got about the school. We talked about it after the visit, and she indicated that many of her friends have the same negative opinion as she does about school. She pointed out how most of the "tour" focused on one white guy making basketball shots around campus, and, while it was amusing, it definitely sent a message that the white jock is valued and basketball is king. I personally look at Miller and the way he treated Acosta and think, if my husband spoke to me like that I'd divorce him. The bullying, name-calling and lack of really deep historical knowledge (new the Lazarus poem was added later, but not that the Lazarus poem was written in 1883 and used to raise funds for the pedestal on which the Statue of Liberty was mounted in 1886) was really disturbing behavior, but not unexpected from the WH. |
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Good God. Our government is run by weenies. |
Anonymous
It's not just people like PP and Donald Trump and Miller who should be held responsible for promoting the views and ideals of white supremacists, it is also people like McMaster and Kelly who should be held responsible. Either one could fire Miller; instead they sign off on sending Miller out on stage to defend proposed Administration in white nationalist terms. Both of them are generals and probably think their job is to follow the orders of the President. But, generals also have an obligation (and swear an oath) to defend the Constitution. When these obligations come into conflict, their greater obligation is to the Constitution... If Kelly and McMaster continue to permit this kind of white nationalist rhetoric to spew from the White House, I hope they are both personally tarred by it. |
Anonymous
THIS. So true. |