Pray for Charlotte, NC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Keston Charles was 15 when he was shot three times during a foot chase in December 2013.

At the time police said that Charles pointed a gun at officers in Brownsville and then fled the scene.

New surveillance footage shows the teen was not armed as police shot at him during the chase, and was surrendering when further shots were fired. A lawsuit is pending.

Cops lie like shit to cover their ass routinely.

Solve that with killings and fires? Ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's my question.
Why aren't Asians doing this? I don't see rioting in Korean/Vietnamese communities. Latin folks either. The black community isn't doing itself favors by doing this.

--signed An Asian...

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Is there a single white person here who is willing to acknowledge that the increasing number of deceitful and duplicitous actions of police exposed over the years thanks to video footage clarifies why blacks hold so much contempt for the police?

[Anonymous]

thought I would share a short and interesting article re NC gun laws and open carry from the Charlotte Observer. Open carry is legal in NC, and concealed with a permit is legal. Displaying a gun in NC is not enough on face as a stand alone fact to warrant arrest, stop and frisk or even an imminent threat. So for argument's sake, let's say he did have a gun and not a book, does that even matter, because it is questionable based on the released statement from the police officer that being threatened because the civilian has a gun doesn't met the standard. In fact, in NC, if a civilian just has an open carry, and is doing nothing else wrong, a cop doesn't have the right to say drop your weapon. I think this particular case is more complicated, I wish they would release the video.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article103252767.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a single black person here who is willing to acknowledge that the barbarism the rioters are demonstrating is making people more sympathetic to the police, not less - and condemn the lawless behavior?

Excellent question. Now let's see how long it takes to get a response from one single black person on this forum...

So 13:06 refuses to respond. Thank you, 13:06.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:thought I would share a short and interesting article re NC gun laws and open carry from the Charlotte Observer. Open carry is legal in NC, and concealed with a permit is legal. Displaying a gun in NC is not enough on face as a stand alone fact to warrant arrest, stop and frisk or even an imminent threat. So for argument's sake, let's say he did have a gun and not a book, does that even matter, because it is questionable based on the released statement from the police officer that being threatened because the civilian has a gun doesn't met the standard. In fact, in NC, if a civilian just has an open carry, and is doing nothing else wrong, a cop doesn't have the right to say drop your weapon. I think this particular case is more complicated, I wish they would release the video.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article103252767.html

One would think you need to consider the individual situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a single black person here who is willing to acknowledge that the barbarism the rioters are demonstrating is making people more sympathetic to the police, not less - and condemn the lawless behavior?

Excellent question. Now let's see how long it takes to get a response from one single black person on this forum...

So 13:06 refuses to respond. Thank you, 13:06.

I don't see anybody responding to 13:06's question either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:thought I would share a short and interesting article re NC gun laws and open carry from the Charlotte Observer. Open carry is legal in NC, and concealed with a permit is legal. Displaying a gun in NC is not enough on face as a stand alone fact to warrant arrest, stop and frisk or even an imminent threat. So for argument's sake, let's say he did have a gun and not a book, does that even matter, because it is questionable based on the released statement from the police officer that being threatened because the civilian has a gun doesn't met the standard. In fact, in NC, if a civilian just has an open carry, and is doing nothing else wrong, a cop doesn't have the right to say drop your weapon. I think this particular case is more complicated, I wish they would release the video.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article103252767.html

Open carry and brandishing are two different things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:thought I would share a short and interesting article re NC gun laws and open carry from the Charlotte Observer. Open carry is legal in NC, and concealed with a permit is legal. Displaying a gun in NC is not enough on face as a stand alone fact to warrant arrest, stop and frisk or even an imminent threat. So for argument's sake, let's say he did have a gun and not a book, does that even matter, because it is questionable based on the released statement from the police officer that being threatened because the civilian has a gun doesn't met the standard. In fact, in NC, if a civilian just has an open carry, and is doing nothing else wrong, a cop doesn't have the right to say drop your weapon. I think this particular case is more complicated, I wish they would release the video.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article103252767.html

One would think you need to consider the individual situation.

Sure, but did you read the article? There is case law on this topic in NC. And the open carry law has been in effect for a long time. Just displaying a gun isn't enough. You cannot, based on even displaying a gun, stop, frisk, search, demand to drop their weapon, etc. this is why the video is super important. Was there a verbal exchange? What was said? Did he point the gun at the police officer (that would be different, that is not just displaying)? But getting in and out of your car, with a gun on your belt or in your hand, isn't enough under NC law to pose as a threat.

[Anonymous]

In 2013 police officers in Indiana stunned Royce Love with tasers before deploying a dog on the 32-year-old man. When Love struggled against the dog, officers delivered several kicks, including a blow to the head, before putting him in handcuffs.

At trial, officers testified that Love was "completely uncooperative" and tried to walk away after he got out of his vehicle - he was convicted for resisting law enforcement and his conviction for striking a police animal.

His conviction was overturned in appeals court, however, when footage from a police dashboard camera showed that Love raised his hands, lowered himself to all-fours and lay on his stomach within about 10 seconds after he exited his vehicle. Love already had peacefully surrendered before officers deployed their tasers and the dog.

Cops lie like shit to cover their asses routinely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:thought I would share a short and interesting article re NC gun laws and open carry from the Charlotte Observer. Open carry is legal in NC, and concealed with a permit is legal. Displaying a gun in NC is not enough on face as a stand alone fact to warrant arrest, stop and frisk or even an imminent threat. So for argument's sake, let's say he did have a gun and not a book, does that even matter, because it is questionable based on the released statement from the police officer that being threatened because the civilian has a gun doesn't met the standard. In fact, in NC, if a civilian just has an open carry, and is doing nothing else wrong, a cop doesn't have the right to say drop your weapon. I think this particular case is more complicated, I wish they would release the video.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article103252767.html

Open carry and brandishing are two different things.

Seriously. I have a conceal carry permit in my home state. I assure you that the moment a police officer asked me to put my gun down, I would put it down. Actually, no. If I was stopped by the police, the gun wouldn't be anywhere near my hands. However, given this gentleman's criminal record, I think it's safe to assume he did not have a permit to carry that gun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lawsuit has been filed recently by the American Civil Liberties Union of Connecticut against three Connecticut state troopers who accidentally recorded themselves fabricating charges against a protester after confiscating his camera.
Cops lie like shit to cover their ass routinely.

There are 750k+ sworn LEO in this country. I don't think it's fair to take the WRONG actions of a few and say it's representative of the entire force.

That would be like saying the rioters last night are representative of all black people in NC. It's simply not true and making sweeping generalizations only worsens the situation.

Tell that to the posters in this thread arguing that blacks deserve to be regarded as animals and viewed as criminals because of the actions of a few.

I've read through this entire thread, and there is not one single person saying blacks deserve to be regarded as animals. Some people are pointing out that blacks are COMPLAINING that they're regarded as animals, yet are unable to see that rioting like savages is making them look worse. You're twisting people's words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a single black person here who is willing to acknowledge that the barbarism the rioters are demonstrating is making people more sympathetic to the police, not less - and condemn the lawless behavior?

Excellent question. Now let's see how long it takes to get a response from one single black person on this forum...

So 13:06 refuses to respond. Thank you, 13:06.

I'm 13:06. I still don't see one single black person willing (or able) to recognize that when people in the black community protest that they're being mistreated by rioting violently, destroying property, and injuring people they are actually demonstrating the very negative attributes attributed to (some) of them. Isn't there one black person who can say that the riots are hurting their cause - and condemn their actions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ldn't be farther from it.

Shut up with the myth of the black welfare queen, majority of welfare recipients are white, largest population of Section 8 receipients is some predominately Jewish neighborhood in NYC. Just take a seat with your surface level understanding and refusal to truly address racism. You are not helping to do anything but to keep yourself deluded. Is RIOTING wrong? HELL YEA!
But when you are too blind to Serbia poverty and and oppression create a powder keg and addressing those ROOT causes is how you keep from happening , take a seat!

No need to be rude and say "shut up". Here are some statistics. http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/ http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html
39.6% of welfare recipients are african american- 12% of total US population are african american
16% of welfare recipients are caucasian - 63.7% of total US population are caucasian

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Witnesses say he had a gun. Did he or didn't he? Why isn't the media reporting that? If he had a gun and wouldn't listen to police then he is at fault.

Media is reporting that. There are links in this thread of a witness photo of the gun.

The guy in Tulsa was also not complying with police.