Reaction to "Study of Choice and Special Academic Programs: Report of Findings and Recommendations"

[Anonymous]

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Only if he is URM.

This "URM" rhetoric is dehumanizing. It really is. Please think about it. We are talking about people, not about acronyms that rhyme with worm.

[Anonymous]

If MCPS can make the arguement that testing is not useful and equitable, maybe it can eventually weasel out of other tests too - like the dreaded PARCC and MAP. No testing, no accountability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If MCPS can make the arguement that testing is not useful and equitable, maybe it can eventually weasel out of other tests too - like the dreaded PARCC and MAP. No testing, no accountability.

But MCPS is actually not making this argument.

Also, the PARCC test (which is dreaded by whom?) or its equivalent is required by federal law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If MCPS can make the arguement that testing is not useful and equitable, maybe it can eventually weasel out of other tests too - like the dreaded PARCC and MAP. No testing, no accountability.

But MCPS is actually not making this argument.

Also, the PARCC test (which is dreaded by whom?) or its equivalent is required by federal law.

PARCC is *NOT* required by federal law. F

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If MCPS can make the arguement that testing is not useful and equitable, maybe it can eventually weasel out of other tests too - like the dreaded PARCC and MAP. No testing, no accountability.

But MCPS is actually not making this argument.

Also, the PARCC test (which is dreaded by whom?) or its equivalent is required by federal law.

PARCC is *NOT* required by federal law. F

ooop hit enter too soon.... For MCPS, PARCC replaced the MSA, which, again, was not a requirement by federal law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If MCPS can make the arguement that testing is not useful and equitable, maybe it can eventually weasel out of other tests too - like the dreaded PARCC and MAP. No testing, no accountability.

But MCPS is actually not making this argument.

Also, the PARCC test (which is dreaded by whom?) or its equivalent is required by federal law.

PARCC is *NOT* required by federal law. F

ooop hit enter too soon.... For MCPS, PARCC replaced the MSA, which, again, was not a requirement by federal law.

Federal law requires a test. Not specifically PARCC, not specifically the MSA -- but a test.

[Anonymous]

Why doesn't MCPS find a test where minority black and Hispanic children score higher or equal Asian and white kids. Search for an equitable test. All those claiming iq and sat tests are biased, where is the test biased the other way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If MCPS can make the arguement that testing is not useful and equitable, maybe it can eventually weasel out of other tests too - like the dreaded PARCC and MAP. No testing, no accountability.

But MCPS is actually not making this argument.

Also, the PARCC test (which is dreaded by whom?) or its equivalent is required by federal law.

PARCC is *NOT* required by federal law. F

ooop hit enter too soon.... For MCPS, PARCC replaced the MSA, which, again, was not a requirement by federal law.

Federal law requires a test. Not specifically PARCC, not specifically the MSA -- but a test.

Not really. They have tied funding to some testing, but there is no such federal law that mandates standardized testing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't MCPS find a test where minority black and Hispanic children score higher or equal Asian and white kids. Search for an equitable test. All those claiming iq and sat tests are biased, where is the test biased the other way.

For the most part cognitive ability is tied to the parents' SES, not race, because it can be influenced by how much enrichment, verbal interaction, and so forth is provided at home. It can even be influenced by the mom's diet when pregnant, and as simple as the parents just simply stressing the importance of education, thereby, the kid will "study" more.

Some of it is innate, but mostly, it is influenced by external factors.

[Anonymous]

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Not really. They have tied funding to some testing, but there is no such federal law that mandates standardized testing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Student_Succeeds_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Child_Left_Behind_Act

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't MCPS find a test where minority black and Hispanic children score higher or equal Asian and white kids. Search for an equitable test. All those claiming iq and sat tests are biased, where is the test biased the other way.

For the most part cognitive ability is tied to the parents' SES, not race, because it can be influenced by how much enrichment, verbal interaction, and so forth is provided at home. It can even be influenced by the mom's diet when pregnant, and as simple as the parents just simply stressing the importance of education, thereby, the kid will "study" more.

Some of it is innate, but mostly, it is influenced by external factors.

For the most part, SES is tied to parents cognitive ability, and smart people generally have smart kids.

Good read related to this talking about research using the NLSY dataset.

http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2015/04/income-weath-and-iq.html

And one about IQ and SES by examining children within the same family (obviously controls for SES)

http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2010/03/ses-and-iq.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't MCPS find a test where minority black and Hispanic children score higher or equal Asian and white kids. Search for an equitable test. All those claiming iq and sat tests are biased, where is the test biased the other way.

For the most part cognitive ability is tied to the parents' SES, not race, because it can be influenced by how much enrichment, verbal interaction, and so forth is provided at home. It can even be influenced by the mom's diet when pregnant, and as simple as the parents just simply stressing the importance of education, thereby, the kid will "study" more.

Some of it is innate, but mostly, it is influenced by external factors.

For the most part, SES is tied to parents cognitive ability, and smart people generally have smart kids.

Good read related to this talking about research using the NLSY dataset.

http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2015/04/income-weath-and-iq.html

And one about IQ and SES by examining children within the same family (obviously controls for SES)

http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2010/03/ses-and-iq.html

Study is BS...

http://drjamesthompson.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/income-brain-race-and-big-gap.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

For the most part, SES is tied to parents cognitive ability, and smart people generally have smart kids.

Good read related to this talking about research using the NLSY dataset.

http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2015/04/income-weath-and-iq.html

And one about IQ and SES by examining children within the same family (obviously controls for SES)

http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2010/03/ses-and-iq.html

Yes, and for the most part, the moon is made of green cheese.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So if my kid wants to be an astronaut and NASA doesn't select him...we should end space travel?

Obviously. If your kid doesn't get selected then the process is clearly biased and unfair.

In MCPS, because not enough blacks and hispanics test into the "selective" programs then the solution is to change the selection criteria to consider race. Changing the criteria is just as unfair. Again, it doesn't make sense that in a public school system that such programs are so highly competitive that everyone is looking for a leg up to get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For the most part, SES is tied to parents cognitive ability, and smart people generally have smart kids.

Good read related to this talking about research using the NLSY dataset.

http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2015/04/income-weath-and-iq.html

And one about IQ and SES by examining children within the same family (obviously controls for SES)

http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2010/03/ses-and-iq.html

Yes, and for the most part, the moon is made of green cheese.

So, you think that there's no correlation between IQ and income, and IQ isn't heritable. I'm not the one who believes in fairy tales.