Did anyone get more than $30K in merit aid at private college?

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Anonymous wrote:TJ tells all seniors to write the value of their scholarships on those forms. Seniors who are receiving full scholarships to a service academy aren't any different from seniors receiving merit scholarships to any other college or university.

Cooper Union, for instance, until recently had no tuition. Every student was on full tuition scholarship and the school would tell students what the value of that scholarship was so they could inform their high school guidance office. The service academies fall into the same category.


My TJ kid received a full ride to one of the top universities and he was not told to write a certain amount on the form. He had to figure out on his own adding up the tuition, room & board etc. and complete the form.


Didn't the school offering the free ride give a dollar amount as to what it was worth? My child was a NMF, so we received a lot of information from various schools about full ride scholarships and they all had a dollar amount listed. The schools were very clear as to how much their full ride scholarships were worth.

No one told my child to write a certain amount on the form, he was told to write the amount of the value of his merit scholarship. We found that out in the paperwork the school had sent us about the scholarship and that was the figure my child used. It is the same for the kids who go to the service academies. The academies add up the value of tuition, room, and board and that is the value of the full ride scholarship each student earns, so that is the amount the student writes on the end of senior year forms.


It costs $100,000.00 per year to educate a cadet at the West Point?


$200 - 250 K for four years as of 2013

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/14/16966278-army-wants-outspoken-west-point-cadet-to-pay-up

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ tells all seniors to write the value of their scholarships on those forms. Seniors who are receiving full scholarships to a service academy aren't any different from seniors receiving merit scholarships to any other college or university.

Cooper Union, for instance, until recently had no tuition. Every student was on full tuition scholarship and the school would tell students what the value of that scholarship was so they could inform their high school guidance office. The service academies fall into the same category.


My TJ kid received a full ride to one of the top universities and he was not told to write a certain amount on the form. He had to figure out on his own adding up the tuition, room & board etc. and complete the form.


Didn't the school offering the free ride give a dollar amount as to what it was worth? My child was a NMF, so we received a lot of information from various schools about full ride scholarships and they all had a dollar amount listed. The schools were very clear as to how much their full ride scholarships were worth.

No one told my child to write a certain amount on the form, he was told to write the amount of the value of his merit scholarship. We found that out in the paperwork the school had sent us about the scholarship and that was the figure my child used. It is the same for the kids who go to the service academies. The academies add up the value of tuition, room, and board and that is the value of the full ride scholarship each student earns, so that is the amount the student writes on the end of senior year forms.


No he was not and he was a national merit scholarship winner.


Which school was it? I have a stack of papers at home listing all the various NM full rides and full tuition plus scholarships my child was offered. It is very easy to get this info from the schools. In fact, I have felt as though they are constantly calling and emailing and sending regular mail that includes the amounts they are offering in big print.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ tells all seniors to write the value of their scholarships on those forms. Seniors who are receiving full scholarships to a service academy aren't any different from seniors receiving merit scholarships to any other college or university.

Cooper Union, for instance, until recently had no tuition. Every student was on full tuition scholarship and the school would tell students what the value of that scholarship was so they could inform their high school guidance office. The service academies fall into the same category.


My TJ kid received a full ride to one of the top universities and he was not told to write a certain amount on the form. He had to figure out on his own adding up the tuition, room & board etc. and complete the form.


Didn't the school offering the free ride give a dollar amount as to what it was worth? My child was a NMF, so we received a lot of information from various schools about full ride scholarships and they all had a dollar amount listed. The schools were very clear as to how much their full ride scholarships were worth.

No one told my child to write a certain amount on the form, he was told to write the amount of the value of his merit scholarship. We found that out in the paperwork the school had sent us about the scholarship and that was the figure my child used. It is the same for the kids who go to the service academies. The academies add up the value of tuition, room, and board and that is the value of the full ride scholarship each student earns, so that is the amount the student writes on the end of senior year forms.


It costs $100,000.00 per year to educate a cadet at the West Point?


$200 - 250 K for four years as of 2013

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/14/16966278-army-wants-outspoken-west-point-cadet-to-pay-up



So its upto $250,000 not $400,000.
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There's a variety of numbers for the Naval Academy in this older College Confidential thread: from about $240,000 up to about $400,000. It really just depends what you include in the amount. Probably the best answer said that the value is priceless.

Most of these kids would be going to high level schools costing $60,000 plus per year, so that's what their parents would be paying at a comparable school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's a variety of numbers for the Naval Academy in this older College Confidential thread: from about $240,000 up to about $400,000. It really just depends what you include in the amount. Probably the best answer said that the value is priceless.

Most of these kids would be going to high level schools costing $60,000 plus per year, so that's what their parents would be paying at a comparable school.


Forgot the link:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/naval-academy-annapolis/332933-value-of-usna-appointment.html

The numbers are from a few years ago, so probably could be adjusted upward as tuitions have risen in general since then.
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Our child got $30k/ year in merit aid at Juniata College, taking the net price to about $23k/year.


What was your child's GPA?


3.4 UW


I'm the poster who asked. Thanks! DS wants to go visit Juniata. If they offer merit aid, we're there! Was your DC recruited for a sport?
Anonymous
This thread has been hijacked by the TJ parents!

Please, can anyone else answer OP's original question?
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Anonymous wrote:Op, you ask a very reasonable question. With the same uw GPA and 710 math as a STEM major, DD got 1/2 OOS tuition at a flagship public and 1/3 off at a STEM focused private. Those were 2 very good (money) results out of 10. We would never have been able to anticipate the end results, so I'd advise to apply widely. Just make sure DC has financial safeties from which to choose. A problem your DC will have is Theatre is such a competitive major, students are lucky to get into the major at all.


Hmmm. Thank you. Good to know. DS is thinking of coming up with something different than a straight theater major to differentiate himself. But it's good to know there may be some OOS options. The problem for us is our budget is capped at $25K per year, so 1/3 off a private is not going to be enough. sigh.


Out of state public universities give merit aid?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op, you ask a very reasonable question. With the same uw GPA and 710 math as a STEM major, DD got 1/2 OOS tuition at a flagship public and 1/3 off at a STEM focused private. Those were 2 very good (money) results out of 10. We would never have been able to anticipate the end results, so I'd advise to apply widely. Just make sure DC has financial safeties from which to choose. A problem your DC will have is Theatre is such a competitive major, students are lucky to get into the major at all.


Hmmm. Thank you. Good to know. DS is thinking of coming up with something different than a straight theater major to differentiate himself. But it's good to know there may be some OOS options. The problem for us is our budget is capped at $25K per year, so 1/3 off a private is not going to be enough. sigh.


Out of state public universities give merit aid?


Yes, many do. Some even have a chart on their websites that shows the amounts students with certain combinations of test scores and grades will receive. The higher the test scores and grades, the more merit money. It's nice because you know the minimum you will definitely be awarded and many times there are other amounts for which a student may additionally qualify.
Anonymous
DD got her largest merit award from an out of state public. 1/2 tuition.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's a variety of numbers for the Naval Academy in this older College Confidential thread: from about $240,000 up to about $400,000. It really just depends what you include in the amount. Probably the best answer said that the value is priceless.

Most of these kids would be going to high level schools costing $60,000 plus per year, so that's what their parents would be paying at a comparable school.


Or not. Many of us with reasonably high HHI cannot afford those schools, nor do we qualify for need-based aid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a variety of numbers for the Naval Academy in this older College Confidential thread: from about $240,000 up to about $400,000. It really just depends what you include in the amount. Probably the best answer said that the value is priceless.

Most of these kids would be going to high level schools costing $60,000 plus per year, so that's what their parents would be paying at a comparable school.


Or not. Many of us with reasonably high HHI cannot afford those schools, nor do we qualify for need-based aid.


Very true, but that is the type of school these kids have the stats for. Most of these kids would qualify for merit aid at schools that offer it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op, you ask a very reasonable question. With the same uw GPA and 710 math as a STEM major, DD got 1/2 OOS tuition at a flagship public and 1/3 off at a STEM focused private. Those were 2 very good (money) results out of 10. We would never have been able to anticipate the end results, so I'd advise to apply widely. Just make sure DC has financial safeties from which to choose. A problem your DC will have is Theatre is such a competitive major, students are lucky to get into the major at all.


Hmmm. Thank you. Good to know. DS is thinking of coming up with something different than a straight theater major to differentiate himself. But it's good to know there may be some OOS options. The problem for us is our budget is capped at $25K per year, so 1/3 off a private is not going to be enough. sigh.


Out of state public universities give merit aid?


Yes! My kid went to Alabama for free.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This thread has been hijacked by the TJ parents!

Please, can anyone else answer OP's original question?


I know of 3 cases in the class of 2015 who got enough merit aid to make the cost the same as attending an in-state (VA) school -
Case Western
Tulane
Univ of Minnesota
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op, you ask a very reasonable question. With the same uw GPA and 710 math as a STEM major, DD got 1/2 OOS tuition at a flagship public and 1/3 off at a STEM focused private. Those were 2 very good (money) results out of 10. We would never have been able to anticipate the end results, so I'd advise to apply widely. Just make sure DC has financial safeties from which to choose. A problem your DC will have is Theatre is such a competitive major, students are lucky to get into the major at all.


Hmmm. Thank you. Good to know. DS is thinking of coming up with something different than a straight theater major to differentiate himself. But it's good to know there may be some OOS options. The problem for us is our budget is capped at $25K per year, so 1/3 off a private is not going to be enough. sigh.


Out of state public universities give merit aid?


Yes! My kid went to Alabama for free.


So sorry...
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