Early Decision Results at DS or DD school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, for example, let me say that I have a student applying to college in a few years, and that they are also well-qualified and deserving, and in a class where twelve or thirteen of their classmates want to apply to the same competitive college or university.

Based on this year's success, I might think that my qualified student had a good chance of being admitted to a very competitive college in a large pool of candidates, even if they rank-ordered somewhere near the lower part of that particularly qualified pool.

There is no shame in answering the legacy question, by the way. One of the years that my children applied to college, a record number of applicants were admitted to one particularly selective college, including my daughter. Several people asked me, "how many are legacies?", because it did/does help them evaluate their own child's future chances in some way - every bit of information helps.

I had no problem stating, and this was in fact the case, that all but two of the admitted students had some sort of legacy connection (defined, in that particular case, as having had either a parent or sibling attend the same school for either college or graduate school).

You are going to make yourself crazy, SB. If you are part of the school community then you can ask the question directly of an informed party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, for example, let me say that I have a student applying to college in a few years, and that they are also well-qualified and deserving, and in a class where twelve or thirteen of their classmates want to apply to the same competitive college or university.

Based on this year's success, I might think that my qualified student had a good chance of being admitted to a very competitive college in a large pool of candidates, even if they rank-ordered somewhere near the lower part of that particularly qualified pool.

There is no shame in answering the legacy question, by the way. One of the years that my children applied to college, a record number of applicants were admitted to one particularly selective college, including my daughter. Several people asked me, "how many are legacies?", because it did/does help them evaluate their own child's future chances in some way - every bit of information helps.

I had no problem stating, and this was in fact the case, that all but two of the admitted students had some sort of legacy connection (defined, in that particular case, as having had either a parent or sibling attend the same school for either college or graduate school).

And that broad definition may overstate the legacy impact. While having a graduate or professional connection to a university may get noted, it's generally not the same as being an undergrad alum. The reason is that the logic behind considering legacy in undergrad admissions -- nurturing and passing along a culture and strong sense of community -- isn't so relevant at the graduate level where the student experience tends to very different. For this reason, many feel a much stronger bond to their undergrad institution than to where they attended graduate/professional school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, for example, let me say that I have a student applying to college in a few years, and that they are also well-qualified and deserving, and in a class where twelve or thirteen of their classmates want to apply to the same competitive college or university.

Based on this year's success, I might think that my qualified student had a good chance of being admitted to a very competitive college in a large pool of candidates, even if they rank-ordered somewhere near the lower part of that particularly qualified pool.

There is no shame in answering the legacy question, by the way. One of the years that my children applied to college, a record number of applicants were admitted to one particularly selective college, including my daughter. Several people asked me, "how many are legacies?", because it did/does help them evaluate their own child's future chances in some way - every bit of information helps.

I had no problem stating, and this was in fact the case, that all but two of the admitted students had some sort of legacy connection (defined, in that particular case, as having had either a parent or sibling attend the same school for either college or graduate school).

You are going to make yourself crazy, SB. If you are part of the school community then you can ask the question directly of an informed party.

Before the decisions came out, I heard from someone that they were very, very nervous about their child's application this year not only because so many fellow students were applying, and because the talent pool of those fellow students was so very highly-qualified and competitive, but also because at least nine of the fellow applicants were a "legacy" as you have defined it. And that comes from an informed party.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, for example, let me say that I have a student applying to college in a few years, and that they are also well-qualified and deserving, and in a class where twelve or thirteen of their classmates want to apply to the same competitive college or university.

Based on this year's success, I might think that my qualified student had a good chance of being admitted to a very competitive college in a large pool of candidates, even if they rank-ordered somewhere near the lower part of that particularly qualified pool.

There is no shame in answering the legacy question, by the way. One of the years that my children applied to college, a record number of applicants were admitted to one particularly selective college, including my daughter. Several people asked me, "how many are legacies?", because it did/does help them evaluate their own child's future chances in some way - every bit of information helps.

I had no problem stating, and this was in fact the case, that all but two of the admitted students had some sort of legacy connection (defined, in that particular case, as having had either a parent or sibling attend the same school for either college or graduate school).

You are going to make yourself crazy, SB. If you are part of the school community then you can ask the question directly of an informed party.

Well, not that informed.

Before the decisions came out, I heard from someone that they were very, very nervous about their child's application this year not only because so many fellow students were applying, and because the talent pool of those fellow students was so very highly-qualified and competitive, but also because at least nine of the fellow applicants were a "legacy" as you have defined it. And that comes from an informed party.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, for example, let me say that I have a student applying to college in a few years, and that they are also well-qualified and deserving, and in a class where twelve or thirteen of their classmates want to apply to the same competitive college or university.

Based on this year's success, I might think that my qualified student had a good chance of being admitted to a very competitive college in a large pool of candidates, even if they rank-ordered somewhere near the lower part of that particularly qualified pool.

There is no shame in answering the legacy question, by the way. One of the years that my children applied to college, a record number of applicants were admitted to one particularly selective college, including my daughter. Several people asked me, "how many are legacies?", because it did/does help them evaluate their own child's future chances in some way - every bit of information helps.

I had no problem stating, and this was in fact the case, that all but two of the admitted students had some sort of legacy connection (defined, in that particular case, as having had either a parent or sibling attend the same school for either college or graduate school).

You are going to make yourself crazy, SB. If you are part of the school community then you can ask the question directly of an informed party.

Before the decisions came out, I heard from someone that they were very, very nervous about their child's application this year not only because so many fellow students were applying, and because the talent pool of those fellow students was so very highly-qualified and competitive, but also because at least nine of the fellow applicants were a "legacy" as you have defined it. And that comes from an informed party.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, for example, let me say that I have a student applying to college in a few years, and that they are also well-qualified and deserving, and in a class where twelve or thirteen of their classmates want to apply to the same competitive college or university.

Based on this year's success, I might think that my qualified student had a good chance of being admitted to a very competitive college in a large pool of candidates, even if they rank-ordered somewhere near the lower part of that particularly qualified pool.

There is no shame in answering the legacy question, by the way. One of the years that my children applied to college, a record number of applicants were admitted to one particularly selective college, including my daughter. Several people asked me, "how many are legacies?", because it did/does help them evaluate their own child's future chances in some way - every bit of information helps.

I had no problem stating, and this was in fact the case, that all but two of the admitted students had some sort of legacy connection (defined, in that particular case, as having had either a parent or sibling attend the same school for either college or graduate school).

You are going to make yourself crazy, SB. If you are part of the school community then you can ask the question directly of an informed party.

Before the decisions came out, I heard from someone that they were very, very nervous about their child's application this year not only because so many fellow students were applying, and because the talent pool of those fellow students was so very highly-qualified and competitive, but also because at least nine of the fellow applicants were a "legacy" as you have defined it. And that comes from an informed party.

Well there you have it. Second-hand conversation from a nervous parent, herself working with hearsay, and the wrong definition of "legacy". My case is made that the chatter on this site is useless to making an informed decision.

[Anonymous]

No dog in the fight but what a shift! Folks seemed pretty happy to hear all about how angry SFS parents were with the counselors and now they have an issue with the news that so many kids got accepted to Yale and Penn. Must be hard being on top.

[Anonymous]

I don't think graduate school legacy "counts" nearly as much as undergrad, but I could be wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think graduate school legacy "counts" nearly as much as undergrad, but I could be wrong.

They don't count it unless the person has given really high dollar amounts (six figures) to the university as a whole, in which case it goes into the "development case" category, not legacy. They define legacy as a parent (some schools will include grandparent) at the undergrad institution. Brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts won't do it, and nor will graduating from a grad program or professional school at the same university (with the "development case" caveat).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think graduate school legacy "counts" nearly as much as undergrad, but I could be wrong.

They don't count it unless the person has given really high dollar amounts (six figures) to the university as a whole, in which case it goes into the "development case" category, not legacy. They define legacy as a parent (some schools will include grandparent) at the undergrad institution. Brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts won't do it, and nor will graduating from a grad program or professional school at the same university (with the "development case" caveat).

And usually if both parents went to the institution, it doesn't mean double or "extra" credit in the legacy category. An applicant is either within legacy status or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, for example, let me say that I have a student applying to college in a few years, and that they are also well-qualified and deserving, and in a class where twelve or thirteen of their classmates want to apply to the same competitive college or university.

Based on this year's success, I might think that my qualified student had a good chance of being admitted to a very competitive college in a large pool of candidates, even if they rank-ordered somewhere near the lower part of that particularly qualified pool.

There is no shame in answering the legacy question, by the way. One of the years that my children applied to college, a record number of applicants were admitted to one particularly selective college, including my daughter. Several people asked me, "how many are legacies?", because it did/does help them evaluate their own child's future chances in some way - every bit of information helps.

I had no problem stating, and this was in fact the case, that all but two of the admitted students had some sort of legacy connection (defined, in that particular case, as having had either a parent or sibling attend the same school for either college or graduate school).

You are going to make yourself crazy, SB. If you are part of the school community then you can ask the question directly of an informed party.

Before the decisions came out, I heard from someone that they were very, very nervous about their child's application this year not only because so many fellow students were applying, and because the talent pool of those fellow students was so very highly-qualified and competitive, but also because at least nine of the fellow applicants were a "legacy" as you have defined it. And that comes from an informed party.

True. I am a parent of one of the 18 kids admitted to those two schools. From what I have gathered from knowing the families of the students since lower school, there were only 3 kids with at least one parent who went to Penn, and of the Yale kids, a few legacies were actually rejected, but 4 out of the 10 kids accepted to Yale definitely had a legacy parent (one I am not sure either way). My child is not a legacy to either, so we feel lucky, even though my child would be considered I would guess in the top 15 or 20 kids just based on what my child gets for grades out of a 4.0 grading system. NO knowledge of other kids grades, just my own child. I don't mind anonymously sharing info like this because I think the DC Independent Schools are really hampered by unweighted GPAs. When Stanford published stats on their early admits last week and said 75% of the kids they accepted EA had a GPA of 4.9 or better, how do you give confidence to your child to apply?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, for example, let me say that I have a student applying to college in a few years, and that they are also well-qualified and deserving, and in a class where twelve or thirteen of their classmates want to apply to the same competitive college or university.

Based on this year's success, I might think that my qualified student had a good chance of being admitted to a very competitive college in a large pool of candidates, even if they rank-ordered somewhere near the lower part of that particularly qualified pool.

There is no shame in answering the legacy question, by the way. One of the years that my children applied to college, a record number of applicants were admitted to one particularly selective college, including my daughter. Several people asked me, "how many are legacies?", because it did/does help them evaluate their own child's future chances in some way - every bit of information helps.

I had no problem stating, and this was in fact the case, that all but two of the admitted students had some sort of legacy connection (defined, in that particular case, as having had either a parent or sibling attend the same school for either college or graduate school).

You are going to make yourself crazy, SB. If you are part of the school community then you can ask the question directly of an informed party.

Before the decisions came out, I heard from someone that they were very, very nervous about their child's application this year not only because so many fellow students were applying, and because the talent pool of those fellow students was so very highly-qualified and competitive, but also because at least nine of the fellow applicants were a "legacy" as you have defined it. And that comes from an informed party.

True. I am a parent of one of the 18 kids admitted to those two schools. From what I have gathered from knowing the families of the students since lower school, there were only 3 kids with at least one parent who went to Penn, and of the Yale kids, a few legacies were actually rejected, but 4 out of the 10 kids accepted to Yale definitely had a legacy parent (one I am not sure either way). My child is not a legacy to either, so we feel lucky, even though my child would be considered I would guess in the top 15 or 20 kids just based on what my child gets for grades out of a 4.0 grading system. NO knowledge of other kids grades, just my own child. I don't mind anonymously sharing info like this because I think the DC Independent Schools are really hampered by unweighted GPAs. When Stanford published stats on their early admits last week and said 75% of the kids they accepted EA had a GPA of 4.9 or better, how do you give confidence to your child to apply?

I meant to say of the kids accepted, 3 from Penn and 4 (poss 5) from Yale had at least one legacy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, for example, let me say that I have a student applying to college in a few years, and that they are also well-qualified and deserving, and in a class where twelve or thirteen of their classmates want to apply to the same competitive college or university.

Based on this year's success, I might think that my qualified student had a good chance of being admitted to a very competitive college in a large pool of candidates, even if they rank-ordered somewhere near the lower part of that particularly qualified pool.

There is no shame in answering the legacy question, by the way. One of the years that my children applied to college, a record number of applicants were admitted to one particularly selective college, including my daughter. Several people asked me, "how many are legacies?", because it did/does help them evaluate their own child's future chances in some way - every bit of information helps.

I had no problem stating, and this was in fact the case, that all but two of the admitted students had some sort of legacy connection (defined, in that particular case, as having had either a parent or sibling attend the same school for either college or graduate school).

You are going to make yourself crazy, SB. If you are part of the school community then you can ask the question directly of an informed party.

Before the decisions came out, I heard from someone that they were very, very nervous about their child's application this year not only because so many fellow students were applying, and because the talent pool of those fellow students was so very highly-qualified and competitive, but also because at least nine of the fellow applicants were a "legacy" as you have defined it. And that comes from an informed party.

True. I am a parent of one of the 18 kids admitted to those two schools. From what I have gathered from knowing the families of the students since lower school, there were only 3 kids with at least one parent who went to Penn, and of the Yale kids, a few legacies were actually rejected, but 4 out of the 10 kids accepted to Yale definitely had a legacy parent (one I am not sure either way). My child is not a legacy to either, so we feel lucky, even though my child would be considered I would guess in the top 15 or 20 kids just based on what my child gets for grades out of a 4.0 grading system. NO knowledge of other kids grades, just my own child. I don't mind anonymously sharing info like this because I think the DC Independent Schools are really hampered by unweighted GPAs. When Stanford published stats on their early admits last week and said 75% of the kids they accepted EA had a GPA of 4.9 or better, how do you give confidence to your child to apply?

I am assuming this poster meant Stanford accepted 75% of kids with a 4.0 or better! A 4.9 would be silly, even for this site!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, for example, let me say that I have a student applying to college in a few years, and that they are also well-qualified and deserving, and in a class where twelve or thirteen of their classmates want to apply to the same competitive college or university.

Based on this year's success, I might think that my qualified student had a good chance of being admitted to a very competitive college in a large pool of candidates, even if they rank-ordered somewhere near the lower part of that particularly qualified pool.

There is no shame in answering the legacy question, by the way. One of the years that my children applied to college, a record number of applicants were admitted to one particularly selective college, including my daughter. Several people asked me, "how many are legacies?", because it did/does help them evaluate their own child's future chances in some way - every bit of information helps.

I had no problem stating, and this was in fact the case, that all but two of the admitted students had some sort of legacy connection (defined, in that particular case, as having had either a parent or sibling attend the same school for either college or graduate school).

You are going to make yourself crazy, SB. If you are part of the school community then you can ask the question directly of an informed party.

Before the decisions came out, I heard from someone that they were very, very nervous about their child's application this year not only because so many fellow students were applying, and because the talent pool of those fellow students was so very highly-qualified and competitive, but also because at least nine of the fellow applicants were a "legacy" as you have defined it. And that comes from an informed party.

True. I am a parent of one of the 18 kids admitted to those two schools. From what I have gathered from knowing the families of the students since lower school, there were only 3 kids with at least one parent who went to Penn, and of the Yale kids, a few legacies were actually rejected, but 4 out of the 10 kids accepted to Yale definitely had a legacy parent (one I am not sure either way). My child is not a legacy to either, so we feel lucky, even though my child would be considered I would guess in the top 15 or 20 kids just based on what my child gets for grades out of a 4.0 grading system. NO knowledge of other kids grades, just my own child. I don't mind anonymously sharing info like this because I think the DC Independent Schools are really hampered by unweighted GPAs. When Stanford published stats on their early admits last week and said 75% of the kids they accepted EA had a GPA of 4.9 or better, how do you give confidence to your child to apply?

I am assuming this poster meant Stanford accepted 75% of kids with a 4.0 or better! A 4.9 would be silly, even for this site!

LOL!! For the parents of kids already accepted this early, can't believe they don't have senior fever already!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, for example, let me say that I have a student applying to college in a few years, and that they are also well-qualified and deserving, and in a class where twelve or thirteen of their classmates want to apply to the same competitive college or university.

Based on this year's success, I might think that my qualified student had a good chance of being admitted to a very competitive college in a large pool of candidates, even if they rank-ordered somewhere near the lower part of that particularly qualified pool.

There is no shame in answering the legacy question, by the way. One of the years that my children applied to college, a record number of applicants were admitted to one particularly selective college, including my daughter. Several people asked me, "how many are legacies?", because it did/does help them evaluate their own child's future chances in some way - every bit of information helps.

I had no problem stating, and this was in fact the case, that all but two of the admitted students had some sort of legacy connection (defined, in that particular case, as having had either a parent or sibling attend the same school for either college or graduate school).

You are going to make yourself crazy, SB. If you are part of the school community then you can ask the question directly of an informed party.

Before the decisions came out, I heard from someone that they were very, very nervous about their child's application this year not only because so many fellow students were applying, and because the talent pool of those fellow students was so very highly-qualified and competitive, but also because at least nine of the fellow applicants were a "legacy" as you have defined it. And that comes from an informed party.

True. I am a parent of one of the 18 kids admitted to those two schools. From what I have gathered from knowing the families of the students since lower school, there were only 3 kids with at least one parent who went to Penn, and of the Yale kids, a few legacies were actually rejected, but 4 out of the 10 kids accepted to Yale definitely had a legacy parent (one I am not sure either way). My child is not a legacy to either, so we feel lucky, even though my child would be considered I would guess in the top 15 or 20 kids just based on what my child gets for grades out of a 4.0 grading system. NO knowledge of other kids grades, just my own child. I don't mind anonymously sharing info like this because I think the DC Independent Schools are really hampered by unweighted GPAs. When Stanford published stats on their early admits last week and said 75% of the kids they accepted EA had a GPA of 4.9 or better, how do you give confidence to your child to apply?

Not true. Each of these schools has an admission person dedicated to this area who is familiar with all of the schools and how they grade. How else do you think kids from privates get in? I don't think any privates weigh grades. The schools have systems to unweigh the grades. Naviance is the best source for the GPA of kids from your school going to a partiicular college.