Why are WASP so elite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps they don't want to give out Ivy-tier signaling.

Most of these second tier LACs are where wealthy Americans would send their kids generation after generation. They care about education quality, kids get great education at these places but at the same time is not cutthroat.

The kids will go to great med schools law schools and PhD after graduation, and become good doctors, lawyers, and scholars. Quietly raise their next generation of kids.

Then repeat the cycle.

Immigrant parents don't care about these schools. American wealthy don't want them to care either.

If one were to consider these for their high-stats Caucasian child, would it be a safe assumption there are fewer Asians at these schools than others?

If so, that's only because children of Asian immigrant parents have not typically been steered toward these schools. I think that's changing though. SLACs might still not be their first choice but they might consider them if their kids don't get into a T-10 school. Post SC decision, it seems clear the Asian demographic at elite schools has gone up. My WASP kid has plenty of Asian classmates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course Bowdoin is tier 1. It’s ranked 5th by US News and has a 7% acceptance rate.

And higher yield than any other WASP. Great endowment. Noticeable drop off after Bowdoin. Hence WASP-B.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just because a trend occurs does not mean it will last, it is real, or the right thing to follow.
NESCACs have had and will continue to have a captive audience of students regardless of shrill rage baiting and daft commentary. Choate, Hotchkiss, Taft, etc who have adopted to the decline of the White Anglos Saxon will continually send their new diverse pool of students to the same schools they have for the last 100 years. Those same pool of students will attend elite graduate schools in the Ivys, run trading desks at major investment banks, summer in the Hamptons, and sustain the I-95 corridor between NYC and Boston. The next generation of their family will do the same, while chipped shouldered insecure fools will be chasing the next hot thing. It is hard to admit when you are stupid but those of us who have done this and have kids doing the same welcome your idiocy.

So you have admitted you are stupid. I agree.

[Anonymous]

Significant drop off after Bowdoin among NESCACs. Middlebury is a pauper compared to Amherst, Williams, and Bowdoin. Times change and Colby might also soon pass Midd and definitely Hamilton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course Bowdoin is tier 1. It’s ranked 5th by US News and has a 7% acceptance rate.

And higher yield than any other WASP. Great endowment. Noticeable drop off after Bowdoin. Hence WASP-B.

My only qualm here is that Bowdoin's current popularity is driven primarily by student interest in good dorms and good food, not academics per se. I'm not sure the outcomes are quite on par with the more long-standing tier 1 schools. Its probably too soon to tell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps they don't want to give out Ivy-tier signaling.

Most of these second tier LACs are where wealthy Americans would send their kids generation after generation. They care about education quality, kids get great education at these places but at the same time is not cutthroat.

The kids will go to great med schools law schools and PhD after graduation, and become good doctors, lawyers, and scholars. Quietly raise their next generation of kids.

Then repeat the cycle.

Immigrant parents don't care about these schools. American wealthy don't want them to care either.

If one were to consider these for their high-stats Caucasian child, would it be a safe assumption there are fewer Asians at these schools than others?

the two into Williams ED from our NYC private are asian girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Significant drop off after Bowdoin among NESCACs. Middlebury is a pauper compared to Amherst, Williams, and Bowdoin. Times change and Colby might also soon pass Midd and definitely Hamilton.

Keep deluding yourself. Until Colby publishes a CDS, no one will take it seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps they don't want to give out Ivy-tier signaling.

Most of these second tier LACs are where wealthy Americans would send their kids generation after generation. They care about education quality, kids get great education at these places but at the same time is not cutthroat.

The kids will go to great med schools law schools and PhD after graduation, and become good doctors, lawyers, and scholars. Quietly raise their next generation of kids.

Then repeat the cycle.

Immigrant parents don't care about these schools. American wealthy don't want them to care either.

If one were to consider these for their high-stats Caucasian child, would it be a safe assumption there are fewer Asians at these schools than others?

If so, that's only because children of Asian immigrant parents have not typically been steered toward these schools. I think that's changing though. SLACs might still not be their first choice but they might consider them if their kids don't get into a T-10 school. Post SC decision, it seems clear the Asian demographic at elite schools has gone up. My WASP kid has plenty of Asian classmates.

My guess is that there are Wasian kids there.
And the true Asian kids now will send their next generation Wasians back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Significant drop off after Bowdoin among NESCACs. Middlebury is a pauper compared to Amherst, Williams, and Bowdoin. Times change and Colby might also soon pass Midd and definitely Hamilton.

"Pauper." Tell us you're bitter without telling us you're bitter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course Bowdoin is tier 1. It’s ranked 5th by US News and has a 7% acceptance rate.

And higher yield than any other WASP. Great endowment. Noticeable drop off after Bowdoin. Hence WASP-B.

WASP-B! WASP-B! WASP-B!!!! LISTEN TO ME GUYS!

--Bowdoin alum

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Significant drop off after Bowdoin among NESCACs. Middlebury is a pauper compared to Amherst, Williams, and Bowdoin. Times change and Colby might also soon pass Midd and definitely Hamilton.

Except New England is over-saturated with SLACs. None will be moving up to the top tier except those who are already there (Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin).

Whether Colby outjockeys Middlebury for leftovers in the next generation does not matter; each will long have been surpassed by the Davidsons and CMCs of the populated (as opposed to depopulated) world.

[Anonymous]

That stock picking rating on Hamilton and Middlebury and Colgate to sell is spot on. Last 2 to 3 years significant app drops at Colgate and Midd. Trend is not their friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 2nd tier NESCAS-Middlebury, Colby, and Hamilton add in Colgate can’t beat the 2 big trends in college admissions kids are flocking South(Duke and Vandy are extremely hot schools add in SEC schools) and schools in or near attractive cities(NYC and Boston). The Midd/Hamilton/Colgate schools were traditionally sweet spot for the Waspy families from boarding schools that couldn’t get into an Ivy or Williams/Amherst. That demographic has disappeared and a more diverse US isn’t interested in $95k a year tiny schools in Vermont and Maine.

Pretty sure you are wrong given the application numbers and acceptance rates. The boarding schools are still full, the acceptance rates are still very low and the schools possess massive wealth. The only thing that Williams and Amherst have ever had over Bowdoin, Hamilton, Middlebury, and Wesleyan is endowment size. That isn't going to change anytime soon so the "rankings" will stay stable but the second group of schools is also incredibly wealthy and the qualitative differences will remain non-existent.

[Anonymous]

New England is indeed over-saturated with SLACs . Conn Coll and Trinity are in a tough spot. Wesleyan will continue with very liberal crowd. Holy Cross has the Catholic angle covered. But Colby, Midd., Colgate and Hamilton fighting over table scraps from AWBowdoin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^flawed logic. More diverse non white Anglo Saxon Protestants are not automatically going to non diverse small schools in communities with no diversity whatsoever.

Typically the largest group of students at each of these schools comes from California, the most diverse state in the country. Pretty sure that it isn't white flight.