What does it take to get a little gun control

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We do various types of psychological and emotional screenings in many circumstances, like military, law enforcement and public safety, air traffic controllers, trauma surgeons, crisis counselors, daycare providers, teachers, astronauts, mission controls staff and so on.

People should be required to pass them before being allowed to purchase or own a gun. Along with not having any history of violence, domestic abuse, anger management issues, substance abuse and so on.

The rights afforded by the Constitution are not absolute. You don't have the right to abuse the first amendment by committing perjury, impersonating a police officer, by making terroristic threats, fraudulent claims about goods and services and so on. That's irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Accordingly, Americans should not have the right to abuse the 2nd Amendment either, because that is also irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Which other constitutional rights will have the same requirement?

We should absolutely make people pass tests before being allowed to vote. Far more important than testing for gun ownership.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do various types of psychological and emotional screenings in many circumstances, like military, law enforcement and public safety, air traffic controllers, trauma surgeons, crisis counselors, daycare providers, teachers, astronauts, mission controls staff and so on.

People should be required to pass them before being allowed to purchase or own a gun. Along with not having any history of violence, domestic abuse, anger management issues, substance abuse and so on.

The rights afforded by the Constitution are not absolute. You don't have the right to abuse the first amendment by committing perjury, impersonating a police officer, by making terroristic threats, fraudulent claims about goods and services and so on. That's irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Accordingly, Americans should not have the right to abuse the 2nd Amendment either, because that is also irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Which other constitutional rights will have the same requirement?

Constitutional rights are not absolute. Under the First Amendment you do not have the right to make false claims about goods and services, to commit perjury. to impersonate law enforcement and so on. And now to burn theflag, either. Any Trump supporter touting "Constitutional rights" for your right to own an AR-15 at this point is a complete hypocrite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Next Dem president should do an emergency executive order and ban assault weapons. Getting the repugnants to vote on a common sense law has not worked since the previous ban expired. F'em. Time to pull a Trump.

How would this work, exactly? What happens to the 25,000,000 AR-15s we know about?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do various types of psychological and emotional screenings in many circumstances, like military, law enforcement and public safety, air traffic controllers, trauma surgeons, crisis counselors, daycare providers, teachers, astronauts, mission controls staff and so on.

People should be required to pass them before being allowed to purchase or own a gun. Along with not having any history of violence, domestic abuse, anger management issues, substance abuse and so on.

The rights afforded by the Constitution are not absolute. You don't have the right to abuse the first amendment by committing perjury, impersonating a police officer, by making terroristic threats, fraudulent claims about goods and services and so on. That's irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Accordingly, Americans should not have the right to abuse the 2nd Amendment either, because that is also irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Which other constitutional rights will have the same requirement?

Constitutional rights are not absolute. Under the First Amendment you do not have the right to make false claims about goods and services, to commit perjury. to impersonate law enforcement and so on. And now to burn theflag, either. Any Trump supporter touting "Constitutional rights" for your right to own an AR-15 at this point is a complete hypocrite.

You listed illegalities after the fact as limitations on constitutional rights. I’m fine with that. The problem is the assertion here that American citizens be tested prior to exercising their right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The R position is so entrenched that it’s basically impossible. I don’t even think these get it done, but maybe:

Many private school shootings at the most elite schools in the country including a bunch of very powerful people’s kids. Like the top of the top elite (senators, billionaires). Many incidents, many victims, in a short time frame.

Legal citizen Muslims shooting dozens of schools with guns they bought legally. Hundreds of dead, mostly upper class schools. This might scare the gun nuts to make some changes to laws.

The R position is bullshit.

The R position on trans people is "just one trans person in womens sports or in womens bathrooms is too many"

Well what about MASS SHOOTINGS which destroy far more lives far more traumatically than one trans person in womens sports or womens bathrooms?

Sorry, Republicans. Your rhetoric is no longer valid. If one trans person is too many then one mass shooting is too many. You are WAY over your limit on mass shootings. It's time for this to END. Your BS can no longer be tolerated by America.

Say it loud, and say it with me:

ONE MASS SHOOTING IS TOO MANY MASS SHOOTINGS.

One brown person commits a rape therefore millions of brown people who didn't rape anyone need to be deported

ONE MASS SHOOTING IS TOO MANY MASS SHOOTINGS.

You Republicans should understand this logic, YOU INVENTED IT.

YOU FIX IT. ONE MASS SHOOTING IS TOO MANY MASS SHOOTINGS. END OF STORY.

Republicans want armed police and security enhancements at every school. That would go a lot farther to combat mass shootings than an assault weapon ban. People forget the VT mass shooting was perpetrated with handguns.

No it won't "go farther." Hardening the schools just means they will shoot up churches instead. Or supermarkets. Or any other place where people gather. Armed guards at schools is a shortsighted concession that doesn't address the broader issue.

I thought we wanted to protect children? Thanks for agreeing this is a soft target issue.

The objective is to stop mass shootings. If they stop shooting children because they are afraid of guards they will instead shoot up synagogues or churches or shopping malls or picnics or street festivals or whatever else. You're missing the point with "children" - yes, we want to protect children but we want to protect everyone else too. Why are you caving to psychopaths saying "you can't have the kids but everyone else is fair game?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do various types of psychological and emotional screenings in many circumstances, like military, law enforcement and public safety, air traffic controllers, trauma surgeons, crisis counselors, daycare providers, teachers, astronauts, mission controls staff and so on.

People should be required to pass them before being allowed to purchase or own a gun. Along with not having any history of violence, domestic abuse, anger management issues, substance abuse and so on.

The rights afforded by the Constitution are not absolute. You don't have the right to abuse the first amendment by committing perjury, impersonating a police officer, by making terroristic threats, fraudulent claims about goods and services and so on. That's irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Accordingly, Americans should not have the right to abuse the 2nd Amendment either, because that is also irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Which other constitutional rights will have the same requirement?

Constitutional rights are not absolute. Under the First Amendment you do not have the right to make false claims about goods and services, to commit perjury. to impersonate law enforcement and so on. And now to burn theflag, either. Any Trump supporter touting "Constitutional rights" for your right to own an AR-15 at this point is a complete hypocrite.

You listed illegalities after the fact as limitations on constitutional rights. I’m fine with that. The problem is the assertion here that American citizens be tested prior to exercising their right.

Why is it a problem? We test people before granting them major responsibilities. Drive a car? Take a test first. Practice any important profession? You have to take a test first. It's not a problem. It's what we do everywhere else in society. Even buying a gun, you are already supposed to take a background check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The objective is to stop mass shootings. If they stop shooting children because they are afraid of guards they will instead shoot up synagogues or churches or shopping malls or picnics or street festivals or whatever else. You're missing the point with "children" - yes, we want to protect children but we want to protect everyone else too. Why are you caving to psychopaths saying "you can't have the kids but everyone else is fair game?"

Okay, what’s your plan, who will it save, and how? There are 400m guns in America. I am all ears. All I ask is that you work within the framework of the 2nd, 4th and 14th Amendments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do various types of psychological and emotional screenings in many circumstances, like military, law enforcement and public safety, air traffic controllers, trauma surgeons, crisis counselors, daycare providers, teachers, astronauts, mission controls staff and so on.

People should be required to pass them before being allowed to purchase or own a gun. Along with not having any history of violence, domestic abuse, anger management issues, substance abuse and so on.

The rights afforded by the Constitution are not absolute. You don't have the right to abuse the first amendment by committing perjury, impersonating a police officer, by making terroristic threats, fraudulent claims about goods and services and so on. That's irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Accordingly, Americans should not have the right to abuse the 2nd Amendment either, because that is also irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Which other constitutional rights will have the same requirement?

Constitutional rights are not absolute. Under the First Amendment you do not have the right to make false claims about goods and services, to commit perjury. to impersonate law enforcement and so on. And now to burn theflag, either. Any Trump supporter touting "Constitutional rights" for your right to own an AR-15 at this point is a complete hypocrite.

You listed illegalities after the fact as limitations on constitutional rights. I’m fine with that. The problem is the assertion here that American citizens be tested prior to exercising their right.

Why is it a problem? We test people before granting them major responsibilities. Drive a car? Take a test first. Practice any important profession? You have to take a test first. It's not a problem. It's what we do everywhere else in society. Even buying a gun, you are already supposed to take a background check.

Those are not constitutional rights.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The objective is to stop mass shootings. If they stop shooting children because they are afraid of guards they will instead shoot up synagogues or churches or shopping malls or picnics or street festivals or whatever else. You're missing the point with "children" - yes, we want to protect children but we want to protect everyone else too. Why are you caving to psychopaths saying "you can't have the kids but everyone else is fair game?"

Okay, what’s your plan, who will it save, and how? There are 400m guns in America. I am all ears. All I ask is that you work within the framework of the 2nd, 4th and 14th Amendments.

Australia is a good example of what can and should be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do various types of psychological and emotional screenings in many circumstances, like military, law enforcement and public safety, air traffic controllers, trauma surgeons, crisis counselors, daycare providers, teachers, astronauts, mission controls staff and so on.

People should be required to pass them before being allowed to purchase or own a gun. Along with not having any history of violence, domestic abuse, anger management issues, substance abuse and so on.

The rights afforded by the Constitution are not absolute. You don't have the right to abuse the first amendment by committing perjury, impersonating a police officer, by making terroristic threats, fraudulent claims about goods and services and so on. That's irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Accordingly, Americans should not have the right to abuse the 2nd Amendment either, because that is also irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Which other constitutional rights will have the same requirement?

Constitutional rights are not absolute. Under the First Amendment you do not have the right to make false claims about goods and services, to commit perjury. to impersonate law enforcement and so on. And now to burn theflag, either. Any Trump supporter touting "Constitutional rights" for your right to own an AR-15 at this point is a complete hypocrite.

You listed illegalities after the fact as limitations on constitutional rights. I’m fine with that. The problem is the assertion here that American citizens be tested prior to exercising their right.

Why is it a problem? We test people before granting them major responsibilities. Drive a car? Take a test first. Practice any important profession? You have to take a test first. It's not a problem. It's what we do everywhere else in society. Even buying a gun, you are already supposed to take a background check.

And the current background check is a joke. You could have schizophrenia, a history of domestic violence and substance abuse, and violent online manifestos and still be allowed to buy a gun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We do various types of psychological and emotional screenings in many circumstances, like military, law enforcement and public safety, air traffic controllers, trauma surgeons, crisis counselors, daycare providers, teachers, astronauts, mission controls staff and so on.

People should be required to pass them before being allowed to purchase or own a gun. Along with not having any history of violence, domestic abuse, anger management issues, substance abuse and so on.

The rights afforded by the Constitution are not absolute. You don't have the right to abuse the first amendment by committing perjury, impersonating a police officer, by making terroristic threats, fraudulent claims about goods and services and so on. That's irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Accordingly, Americans should not have the right to abuse the 2nd Amendment either, because that is also irresponsible and abusive to fellow Americans.

Which other constitutional rights will have the same requirement?

Constitutional rights are not absolute. Under the First Amendment you do not have the right to make false claims about goods and services, to commit perjury. to impersonate law enforcement and so on. And now to burn theflag, either. Any Trump supporter touting "Constitutional rights" for your right to own an AR-15 at this point is a complete hypocrite.

You listed illegalities after the fact as limitations on constitutional rights. I’m fine with that. The problem is the assertion here that American citizens be tested prior to exercising their right.

Why is it a problem? We test people before granting them major responsibilities. Drive a car? Take a test first. Practice any important profession? You have to take a test first. It's not a problem. It's what we do everywhere else in society. Even buying a gun, you are already supposed to take a background check.

And the current background check is a joke. You could have schizophrenia, a history of domestic violence and substance abuse, and violent online manifestos and still be allowed to buy a gun.

Trump rescinded red flag laws. He WANTS crazy peple to have guns. Why did you vote for that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even buying a gun, you are already supposed to take a background check.

There are 33 states that allow personal transfers with no corresponding background check for the sale.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The objective is to stop mass shootings. If they stop shooting children because they are afraid of guards they will instead shoot up synagogues or churches or shopping malls or picnics or street festivals or whatever else. You're missing the point with "children" - yes, we want to protect children but we want to protect everyone else too. Why are you caving to psychopaths saying "you can't have the kids but everyone else is fair game?"

Okay, what’s your plan, who will it save, and how? There are 400m guns in America. I am all ears. All I ask is that you work within the framework of the 2nd, 4th and 14th Amendments.

We have to stop navelgazing and playing games. One transperson competes in womens sports and overnight we have dozens of new laws about it, and that killed nobody.

One mass shooting is too many mass shootings. It's time to stop making excuses, time to stop deflecting, and time and start working on FIXING it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The objective is to stop mass shootings. If they stop shooting children because they are afraid of guards they will instead shoot up synagogues or churches or shopping malls or picnics or street festivals or whatever else. You're missing the point with "children" - yes, we want to protect children but we want to protect everyone else too. Why are you caving to psychopaths saying "you can't have the kids but everyone else is fair game?"

Okay, what’s your plan, who will it save, and how? There are 400m guns in America. I am all ears. All I ask is that you work within the framework of the 2nd, 4th and 14th Amendments.

Australia is a good example of what can and should be done.

Does Australia have a 2nd Amendment?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even buying a gun, you are already supposed to take a background check.

There are 33 states that allow personal transfers with no corresponding background check for the sale.

Yup. Our system is a complete joke. And the criminals and crazies know it, and exploit it daily.