Do MAGA not realize that cancelling DEI will greatly affect women’s careers?

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Women probably won't believe that their right to vote could go away also. Pay attention ladies.

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They don’t care.

Remember, Vance wants more babies.

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Anonymous wrote:Non discrimination is enough for women. Create a pre employment exam or writing assignment without disclosing gender or race. I am 1000% confident I can compete with a man in my field. If I can't compete in a blind test I don't want the job. I don't need a quota of women or extra points. That's DEI.

You're so close to getting it!

Gender and race-blind applications are a form of DEI. The GOP has been pushing lies that DEI means racial quotas or hiring unqualified minorities over qualified white people, but it's simply not true. DEI literally means nondiscrimination.

NP. It literally does NOT mean that. It means focusing on and emphasizing race and gender above all else. Which is ridiculous. It absolutely doesn’t mean race-blind. That’s a bad word now, remember? And Harvard is mad that they are being forced to go race-blind in applications? Race-blind (& gender-blind) should be society’s ultimate goal, but DEI hurts that goal, along with racists.

No, it doesn’t. It really doesn’t.

Maybe you don’t think it does, but that’s how it’s been implemented in many places.

Can you list a few of these places? Seriously. Who does this?

I’m waiting for the list too. Because DEI absolutely does not mean “focusing on and emphasizing race and gender above all else” and you know it. Stop making things up to suit your narrative.

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I work for an old fashioned, behind the times company that didn’t jump on the DEI bandwagon. In my department, the VP, Assistant VP and six of the eight directors are women.

You don’t get it, do you?
All the female management you have IS because it took decades of pushing DEI agenda.

How old is your company? Look at your management in 70s, 60s.

Corporate America was 90+% white males, the academia was white males, doctors in 50s were 96% male.

And you stand here today and tell me you got your job because you’re the best??

No, you got your job because people fought for your rights to have it for decades through DEI initiatives. The best you would not be hired back then.

Sorry, if the truth hurts. You’re obviously either very young or very gullible.

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Anonymous wrote:One purpose of DEI is to stack gov administrations with apparatchicks —compliant women who blindly obey their masters. When their political party the Ds are in power, all manner of stupid and disruptive crap is manifested, such as gov officials refusing to define a woman. “It’s your MAMA” —Pastor Gino Jennings.

When the Ds are not in power, such as now, their unwritten marching orders are to “resist” and undermine the Republican administration.

Trump saw this when he was president the first time but could do very little, so now he is taking measures to remove this subversive, treasonous, anti-American element from the Federal govt.

Orwell was an astute observer of these DEI pests:

“It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans (Hope & Change! I’m with her!”, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.”

It is time for Trump to clean house as Jesus did driving out the money changers in the temple, getting rid of DEI who are the products of what is described in tbe bible;

“For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with diverse lusts, ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

Jesus wanted to futz his own daughter? Had 5 kids from 3 baby mamas? Jesus futz a porn star? You Christians are a funny lot!

They are not Christians, they identify as Christians. Wannabes

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Anonymous wrote:
I work for an old fashioned, behind the times company that didn’t jump on the DEI bandwagon. In my department, the VP, Assistant VP and six of the eight directors are women.

You don’t get it, do you?
All the female management you have IS because it took decades of pushing DEI agenda.

How old is your company? Look at your management in 70s, 60s.

Corporate America was 90+% white males, the academia was white males, doctors in 50s were 96% male.

And you stand here today and tell me you got your job because you’re the best??

No, you got your job because people fought for your rights to have it for decades through DEI initiatives. The best you would not be hired back then.

Sorry, if the truth hurts. You’re obviously either very young or very gullible.

It also got people on wheelchairs ramps, it also got deaf people sign language interpreters, you think all these people were in the workforce before?

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Anonymous wrote:One purpose of DEI is to stack gov administrations with apparatchicks —compliant women who blindly obey their masters. When their political party the Ds are in power, all manner of stupid and disruptive crap is manifested, such as gov officials refusing to define a woman. “It’s your MAMA” —Pastor Gino Jennings.

When the Ds are not in power, such as now, their unwritten marching orders are to “resist” and undermine the Republican administration.

Trump saw this when he was president the first time but could do very little, so now he is taking measures to remove this subversive, treasonous, anti-American element from the Federal govt.

Orwell was an astute observer of these DEI pests:

“It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans (Hope & Change! I’m with her!”, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.”

It is time for Trump to clean house as Jesus did driving out the money changers in the temple, getting rid of DEI who are the products of what is described in tbe bible;

“For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with diverse lusts, ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

He was actually talking about you, but you are too blind to see it.

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Anonymous wrote:One purpose of DEI is to stack gov administrations with apparatchicks —compliant women who blindly obey their masters. When their political party the Ds are in power, all manner of stupid and disruptive crap is manifested, such as gov officials refusing to define a woman. “It’s your MAMA” —Pastor Gino Jennings.

When the Ds are not in power, such as now, their unwritten marching orders are to “resist” and undermine the Republican administration.

Trump saw this when he was president the first time but could do very little, so now he is taking measures to remove this subversive, treasonous, anti-American element from the Federal govt.

Orwell was an astute observer of these DEI pests:

“It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans (Hope & Change! I’m with her!”, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.”

It is time for Trump to clean house as Jesus did driving out the money changers in the temple, getting rid of DEI who are the products of what is described in tbe bible;

“For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with diverse lusts, ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

Nazi language

[Anonymous]

The roll back of DEI and potentially other anti discrimination protections means putting all of your trust in hiring teams and corporations to do the right thing. You know how Affirmative Action came to be in the first place? Universities and businesses could not be trusted to do the right thing post segregation. And I’m actually okay with Affirmative Action going, it seems like it ran its course. But this idea that there is never gender or racial discrimination is naive and silly to me. You all seem to be more trusting than I am.

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Anonymous wrote:I really resent the implication that I was hired as a woman because of DEI. I was hired because I was the best at my job.

What WILL hurt women is the lack of telework. DH's job is 100% in person and inflexible due to the career he chose. I chose a fed career that had more work life balance and of course had a lower salary because of it. Nearly every family I know chose similarly and has one spouse in a flexible job. If there are no flexible jobs anymore, we will be back to the 1950s. Even in the 1980s and 90s, my mom couldn't work full time because she couldn't get school schedules to work with work schedules. And schools have gotten worse since covid at being family friendly.

You’re missing the GD point. You weren’t hired because of DEI; you simply weren’t passed over because of DEI (and its predecessors). JFC.

The predecessors have nothing to do with it. Republicans agree with MLK now on race. Can you not admit that some of the “DEI” went too far? If you don’t see what was happening, you are being willfully obtuse. Many people did go that far to make it all about skin color and dozens of genders, and it is too much. We just want equality to be reasonable again.

List your specific complaints with verifiable examples and we can have an honest discussion.

Until then, keep your Fox News talking points to yourself.

[Anonymous]

I am a woman. I don't think DEI has anything to do with me. I have been working post-college for 26 years. DEI is not meant to elevate women at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The roll back of DEI and potentially other anti discrimination protections means putting all of your trust in hiring teams and corporations to do the right thing. You know how Affirmative Action came to be in the first place? Universities and businesses could not be trusted to do the right thing post segregation. And I’m actually okay with Affirmative Action going, it seems like it ran its course. But this idea that there is never gender or racial discrimination is naive and silly to me. You all seem to be more trusting than I am.

Affirmative action was always meant to have a sunset. It was allowing for a small degree of legitimized racism so race and sex could be considered as positive factors for some period of time as a rational way to address historic racism. It was never supposed to permanently institutionalize racism. It has now been rejected because racism to fight racism is not a forever solution. Yes, the problem is not eradicated -- there is still racism and sexism -- but it reached the point where the cure was eclipsing the disease. We've made progress and there are legal protections. Title VII has been around since 1964. Those protections have their challenges because it is hard to prove intent, but it should be hard to prove intent. That's called due process, another basic legal protection. We'll never entirely cure the world of biases but blessing racism to cure racism is not a sustainable philosophy. DEI is putting the thumb on the scale for candidates who wouldn't get the job based on merit, and the a la mode version of DEI relies heavily on critical racism, which asks us to accept that our history can only be understood through a racial lens such that even racial progress, such as Brown v. Board of Education, is motivated by racism. Likewise, a white person who thinks she isn't racist is delusional. This tracks with many prior posters here: if you're a woman who thinks you got your job through merit, you're simply naive. Bull. The existence of sexism can coexist with the truth that there are plenty of women who are really good at what they do. Many of the women I've revered in my career are in their positions because they were so much better than the white men that no amount of sexism could keep them back. Denying those women credit is a disservice. The playing field isn't perfect but it's never going to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Women are competent and good workers and showed that well before DEI became a trend. There are no meaningful IQ differences between men and women.

but do you know how hard it was for women to get hired before DEI or promoted?

Are you insane? I am in my late 40s. I had no trouble getting hired at 21 or since.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a woman. I don't think DEI has anything to do with me. I have been working post-college for 26 years. DEI is not meant to elevate women at all.

Some Trump voters are finding out the hard way that his policies do in fact impact them negatively.

I am a 54F. In my day, it was "equal opportunity". Today, they call it DEI. But, it basically works the same way.

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Anonymous wrote:Women are competent and good workers and showed that well before DEI became a trend. There are no meaningful IQ differences between men and women.

but do you know how hard it was for women to get hired before DEI or promoted?

Are you insane? I am in my late 40s. I had no trouble getting hired at 21 or since.

dp.. DEI is just another word for "equal opportunity" which was code word for "we need to hire more women and minorities".

Before EO laws, companies could fire women for getting pregnant or not hire women of child bearing age, or even minorities. There was very little recourse when this happened. I feel we are going back to that.