Active Duty US Airman Set Himself on Fire Outside Israeli embassy in DC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Allegedly he’s a committed anarchist and known in the anarchist “community.” He notified this anarchist publication of his actions:

https://crimethinc.com/2024/02/26/this-is-wha...solidarity-with-gaza

How is a "committed anarchist" tolerated in our military?!! There's no way radicalized nut cases aren't a major security and operational risk!

schizophrenia often appears in the 20s. He’s not a lone case. Think about the guys who run into the DMZ. They get weeded out but it takes time. Or an event like this.

Obviously it’s ridiculous to collect a government paycheck while declaring yourself an anarchist. I laugh any time I see a “don’t tread on me” plate on a military base/post for the same reason.

Why would you think he’s schizophrenic? Maybe he felt guilt as an airman seeing what aerial bombing really does on the ground. The images online are extremely graphic like Al Jazeera level but worse.

Since the My Lai Massacre photos during Vietnam and what that caused here , The American media doesn’t show the ugliness of war on purpose (we get the sanitized version) because they know if we do see war uncut and uncensored, there’d be more incidents like this guy’s and worse .

1. My point is that severe and sudden mental illness appears in the 20s so in response to the person I quoted, this explains why we sometimes have people this unstable on active duty. When he joined, he probably did not show signs of mental instability.

2. No mentally stable person lights themselves on fire. For any reason. I can’t believe this needs to be said

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Seriously +1

2. needs to be said because so many people are online on reddit, x right now saying "it's not mental illness, he was so brave!!!" Absolutely disturbing how young people especially are being corrupted by online propaganda making them abandon all common sense.

The propaganda is that he was mentally ill for his sacrifice against a profoundly ugly+obvious GENOCIDE.

It’s been noted elsewhere that everyone who talks of this as mental illness has a loooong history of supporting Israeli fascism and this genocide. I’m pretty sure that’s correct!

You’re making that up.

It is not propaganda. It’s an incredibly reasonable assumption for anyone who lights themselves on fire for any reason whatsoever. There are a million ways to support whatever you believe besides suicide or self-harm.

Encouraging or supporting suicide or self-harm as a symbol of protest is propaganda. It’s extremism used in extremist organizations. I see you.

This is an EXTREME act and I'm as anti-Israel and pro-Palestine as one can be but I also think this takes some amount of mental illness. However, this tactic of addressing one's concerns is most used by Buddhist monks . Buddhist monks are pretty universally admired and I've near heard that the Tibetan monks who self-immolate are mentally ill so ,maybe we are all just old and steeped in western religious ideas about suicide and people who are 20 years younger are much freer from Juseo-christian/abrahamic indoctrination against suicide and mores about the sanctity of ones own life as opposed to someone else's. I also believe that a good soldier is one who knows his life is the cheapest life, if someone's life must be lost it should be his, its one of the reasons I despise the IDF= those soldiers beige tat their lives are sacred above all to the extant that they shoot their own people!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you think someone who set himself on fire , just had his mental health issues start 4 months ago due to Pro Palestine or as you like to say, Pro Hamas online “radicalization”, you are naive . You don’t just wake up one day and decide to burn yourself because you read Free Palestine online

So which is it? He was brave or he was mentally ill? The Free Palestine people seem to think brave. Decide if you want to claim him or not already.

I'm not a Free Palestine person, and I certainly don't want to claim him.

I just think the Pro-Israel people who claim that his commitment was surface deep are either deluded or disingenuous.

The fact that you can't acknowledge that someone somewhere might have good reason to question both Israeli and US actions in Gaza and Palestine writ-large is absurd.

I can see both sides. i haven't decided which I support. You're not winning me over with your argument, friend. I'm who you need to be convincing and you're driving me away from your side.

[Anonymous]

This just shows we have brave people in our military who wil” stand up to Israel. So unlike our politicians or media.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think someone who set himself on fire , just had his mental health issues start 4 months ago due to Pro Palestine or as you like to say, Pro Hamas online “radicalization”, you are naive . You don’t just wake up one day and decide to burn yourself because you read Free Palestine online

So which is it? He was brave or he was mentally ill? The Free Palestine people seem to think brave. Decide if you want to claim him or not already.

I'm not a Free Palestine person, and I certainly don't want to claim him.

I just think the Pro-Israel people who claim that his commitment was surface deep are either deluded or disingenuous.

The fact that you can't acknowledge that someone somewhere might have good reason to question both Israeli and US actions in Gaza and Palestine writ-large is absurd.

I can see both sides. i haven't decided which I support. You're not winning me over with your argument, friend. I'm who you need to be convincing and you're driving me away from your side.

It is truly distressing that people are using DCUM to form their political opinions. Tragic. But an interesting case study in the effectiveness of Russian interference and propaganda.

So it's tragic that someone engages in political discussion with an open mind? Interesting perspective. Tragic, really.

It’s good to be open minded, but not so much your brain falls out.

Taking stock in anything said by an anon is a bad idea. This is an entertainment site.

We are shooting the sh!t on an internet site. All of us. Where do you get off being holier than thou? You're here too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allegedly he’s a committed anarchist and known in the anarchist “community.” He notified this anarchist publication of his actions:

https://crimethinc.com/2024/02/26/this-is-wha...solidarity-with-gaza

How is a "committed anarchist" tolerated in our military?!! There's no way radicalized nut cases aren't a major security and operational risk!

schizophrenia often appears in the 20s. He’s not a lone case. Think about the guys who run into the DMZ. They get weeded out but it takes time. Or an event like this.

Obviously it’s ridiculous to collect a government paycheck while declaring yourself an anarchist. I laugh any time I see a “don’t tread on me” plate on a military base/post for the same reason.

Why would you think he’s schizophrenic? Maybe he felt guilt as an airman seeing what aerial bombing really does on the ground. The images online are extremely graphic like Al Jazeera level but worse.

Since the My Lai Massacre photos during Vietnam and what that caused here , The American media doesn’t show the ugliness of war on purpose (we get the sanitized version) because they know if we do see war uncut and uncensored, there’d be more incidents like this guy’s and worse .

1. My point is that severe and sudden mental illness appears in the 20s so in response to the person I quoted, this explains why we sometimes have people this unstable on active duty. When he joined, he probably did not show signs of mental instability.

2. No mentally stable person lights themselves on fire. For any reason. I can’t believe this needs to be said

\\

Seriously +1

2. needs to be said because so many people are online on reddit, x right now saying "it's not mental illness, he was so brave!!!" Absolutely disturbing how young people especially are being corrupted by online propaganda making them abandon all common sense.

The propaganda is that he was mentally ill for his sacrifice against a profoundly ugly+obvious GENOCIDE.

It’s been noted elsewhere that everyone who talks of this as mental illness has a loooong history of supporting Israeli fascism and this genocide. I’m pretty sure that’s correct!

You’re making that up.

It is not propaganda. It’s an incredibly reasonable assumption for anyone who lights themselves on fire for any reason whatsoever. There are a million ways to support whatever you believe besides suicide or self-harm.

Encouraging or supporting suicide or self-harm as a symbol of protest is propaganda. It’s extremism used in extremist organizations. I see you.

This is an EXTREME act and I'm as anti-Israel and pro-Palestine as one can be but I also think this takes some amount of mental illness. However, this tactic of addressing one's concerns is most used by Buddhist monks . Buddhist monks are pretty universally admired and I've near heard that the Tibetan monks who self-immolate are mentally ill so ,maybe we are all just old and steeped in western religious ideas about suicide and people who are 20 years younger are much freer from Juseo-christian/abrahamic indoctrination against suicide and mores about the sanctity of ones own life as opposed to someone else's. I also believe that a good soldier is one who knows his life is the cheapest life, if someone's life must be lost it should be his, its one of the reasons I despise the IDF= those soldiers beige tat their lives are sacred above all to the extant that they shoot their own people!

No religion is immune from mental illness. Monks can be mentally ill too. Again, I can’t believe I have to say this, but no well person lights themselves on fire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This just shows we have brave people in our military who wil” stand up to Israel. So unlike our politicians or media.

+so many

[Anonymous]

Crazy loon. Don't put any stock in the actions of a crazy person whichever side of the isle you sit on.

[Anonymous]

Only a deeply sick society could valorize intentional martyrdom. In more normal times, we would all be calling it what it is: fanaticism.

[Anonymous]

Exactly. This is what I meant. We have slid down a slope where otherwise normal people think this is normal and brave and don’t even hear themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think someone who set himself on fire , just had his mental health issues start 4 months ago due to Pro Palestine or as you like to say, Pro Hamas online “radicalization”, you are naive . You don’t just wake up one day and decide to burn yourself because you read Free Palestine online

So which is it? He was brave or he was mentally ill? The Free Palestine people seem to think brave. Decide if you want to claim him or not already.

I'm not a Free Palestine person, and I certainly don't want to claim him.

I just think the Pro-Israel people who claim that his commitment was surface deep are either deluded or disingenuous.

The fact that you can't acknowledge that someone somewhere might have good reason to question both Israeli and US actions in Gaza and Palestine writ-large is absurd.

I can see both sides. i haven't decided which I support. You're not winning me over with your argument, friend. I'm who you need to be convincing and you're driving me away from your side.

If you are questioning the U.S. and Israel's actions you have chosen your side. If my saying this offends you, you have chosen your side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think someone who set himself on fire , just had his mental health issues start 4 months ago due to Pro Palestine or as you like to say, Pro Hamas online “radicalization”, you are naive . You don’t just wake up one day and decide to burn yourself because you read Free Palestine online

So which is it? He was brave or he was mentally ill? The Free Palestine people seem to think brave. Decide if you want to claim him or not already.

I'm not a Free Palestine person, and I certainly don't want to claim him.

I just think the Pro-Israel people who claim that his commitment was surface deep are either deluded or disingenuous.

The fact that you can't acknowledge that someone somewhere might have good reason to question both Israeli and US actions in Gaza and Palestine writ-large is absurd.

I can see both sides. i haven't decided which I support. You're not winning me over with your argument, friend. I'm who you need to be convincing and you're driving me away from your side.

If you are questioning the U.S. and Israel's actions you have chosen your side. If my saying this offends you, you have chosen your side.

The U.S. and Israel are not the same. Try as you might to suggest that we are one, we surely are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't see why people are kicking down on a dead person who can't defend himself. It hasn't even been 48 hours yet.

He was trying to gain attention. Obviously. But you're right that the world would be a better place if we didn't platform this kind of violence.

[jsteele]

Probably everything that can be said about this has been said.