Stabbing at The Brandywine in 4500 block Connecticut Ave. NW DC

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Hi everyone, my mom has lived in an apartment building in NorthWest DC for almost a decade now. Over the last two years several new people have moved into the building into new rent controlled units that the city decided the apartment complex must have. Recently two families have started having violent confrontations in the lobby together. My mom was walking into the lobby earlier this week when a fight broke out culminating in a woman beaten with a “Please sign in” metal sign and a knife being pulled. My mom was terrified and ran but now I worry that next time it could be a gun. My question is, does she have any legal recourse on recovering her security deposit and moving out given as how this is only the most recent incident in a series of violent incidents? Also there is no security guard only a front desk concierge.

Tldr; mom lives in building with new violent tenants can she get her security deposit back and move?

The above was posted on Reddit. Comments asked if this was The Brandywine.

The police report for the incident that is the subject of the thread stated that 2 females, known to one another, got into a fight and stabbed one another in the back. (Literally.) Both refused transport to the hospital. So, could, in fact, have been The Brandywine his mom lives in. Plenty of other options in Connecticut and Wisconsin corridors but there is a lot of violence INSIDE The Brandywine. Used to be so many Murch families.

I think if people with vouchers commit crimes or behave violently, they should lose the voucher and the apartment. if they have a mental illness they should be moved to places that can help them (group homes with staff onside to help with medications or mental hospitals where they cannot go out for people who are violent and a threat to themselves or others). if not, they should be kicked out of the apartment period. even assuming that housing is a right (and it's a big if), living at the taxpayer expense with 150% the already high rent in the best part of town is definitely not a right. I am sure there are plenty of lower income families that would love some help to live in the apartments on Wisconsin or CT and send their kids to local schools and that stab each other in the lobby when they have a disagreement, throw the girlfriend out of the 8th floor window or shoot around at 3pm on Saturday near a play ground. I came to DC in 2001 and rented for 10 yrs apartments on CT, first as a couple and then as a couple with two kids, lived in two different buildings and it was great.

i meant "and that DO NOT stab each other in the lobby...."

You think..
What do the people you voted for think?

Oh come on. Matt Frumin doesn't want to put people in apartments here who are violent. Quit insinuating that. Just because someone has a criminal record doesn't mean that they will be a repeat offender.

He cares more about criminals than law-abiding taxpayers. He’s made that crystal clear.

You get what you vote for.

No he hasn't. He has said that he's not for canceling or throttling back on the vouch program - which does help many, many, many families- because a few bad apples are operating within it and causing shit like this.

That's a reasonable position to take.

The program is badly mismanaged from both a financial and safety perspective. He is placing the interests of others over the interests of his constituents. There is nothing reasonable with daytime shootings, savings, and car jackings in a once quiet part of town.

Okay, but why punish the many who benefit from it by pausing or stopping the entire program?? Oh right, because any excuse to maintain exclusivity in this area is sought after and embraced quickly.

Oct — armed robbery and pistol whipping 2600 Connecticut
Oct. 14 -- Carjacking Brandywine/31st (with guns)
Oct. 26-- Stabbing at the Brandywine
Oct. 29-- Stabbing at Van Ness metro
Sept. 19 -- Attempted carjacking 5400 block Connecticut
Oct. 4 -- Carjacking at gas station at Connecticut/Nebraska
Sept. 9 -- Shooting Connecticut Ave/Brandywine

How many people are in the area because of vouchers? A few thousand. How many of them are complicit in these crimes? Single digits. You want to send them all back to ward 7 and 8 and wreck their futures.l because of a few bad actors. F that.

What’s wrong with Wards 7 & 8?

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Anonymous wrote:I generally loathe guns and don’t own them. But increasingly I wonder if the way to get a handle on crime in DC is if more law abiding citizens, taxi drivers, Uber drivers carried pistols with a reasonable DC stand your ground law to protect them if the are mugged, car jacked, etc. The predators might think twice before preying on others.

Same. I’m a 50-something woman who works erratic hours - so I’m often driving alone at 4 am, midnight etc. to the hospital. For the first time in my 30 years in DC I’m thoughtfully looking into pistol ownership and shooting ranges.

I’m a lifelong liberal yet I would have no remorse for lethally defending myself against violent bad actors. Like this smart man did:

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/13-year-old-shot-killed-by-off-duty-federal-security-officer-after-attempting-to-steal-officers-car/amp/

Ward 3 resident fwiw. Who raised her kids in the Forest Hills playground-turned-drug-bazaar

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Hi everyone, my mom has lived in an apartment building in NorthWest DC for almost a decade now. Over the last two years several new people have moved into the building into new rent controlled units that the city decided the apartment complex must have. Recently two families have started having violent confrontations in the lobby together. My mom was walking into the lobby earlier this week when a fight broke out culminating in a woman beaten with a “Please sign in” metal sign and a knife being pulled. My mom was terrified and ran but now I worry that next time it could be a gun. My question is, does she have any legal recourse on recovering her security deposit and moving out given as how this is only the most recent incident in a series of violent incidents? Also there is no security guard only a front desk concierge.

Tldr; mom lives in building with new violent tenants can she get her security deposit back and move?

The above was posted on Reddit. Comments asked if this was The Brandywine.

The police report for the incident that is the subject of the thread stated that 2 females, known to one another, got into a fight and stabbed one another in the back. (Literally.) Both refused transport to the hospital. So, could, in fact, have been The Brandywine his mom lives in. Plenty of other options in Connecticut and Wisconsin corridors but there is a lot of violence INSIDE The Brandywine. Used to be so many Murch families.

I think if people with vouchers commit crimes or behave violently, they should lose the voucher and the apartment. if they have a mental illness they should be moved to places that can help them (group homes with staff onside to help with medications or mental hospitals where they cannot go out for people who are violent and a threat to themselves or others). if not, they should be kicked out of the apartment period. even assuming that housing is a right (and it's a big if), living at the taxpayer expense with 150% the already high rent in the best part of town is definitely not a right. I am sure there are plenty of lower income families that would love some help to live in the apartments on Wisconsin or CT and send their kids to local schools and that stab each other in the lobby when they have a disagreement, throw the girlfriend out of the 8th floor window or shoot around at 3pm on Saturday near a play ground. I came to DC in 2001 and rented for 10 yrs apartments on CT, first as a couple and then as a couple with two kids, lived in two different buildings and it was great.

i meant "and that DO NOT stab each other in the lobby...."

You think..
What do the people you voted for think?

Oh come on. Matt Frumin doesn't want to put people in apartments here who are violent. Quit insinuating that. Just because someone has a criminal record doesn't mean that they will be a repeat offender.

He cares more about criminals than law-abiding taxpayers. He’s made that crystal clear.

You get what you vote for.

No he hasn't. He has said that he's not for canceling or throttling back on the vouch program - which does help many, many, many families- because a few bad apples are operating within it and causing shit like this.

That's a reasonable position to take.

The program is badly mismanaged from both a financial and safety perspective. He is placing the interests of others over the interests of his constituents. There is nothing reasonable with daytime shootings, savings, and car jackings in a once quiet part of town.

Okay, but why punish the many who benefit from it by pausing or stopping the entire program?? Oh right, because any excuse to maintain exclusivity in this area is sought after and embraced quickly.

Oct — armed robbery and pistol whipping 2600 Connecticut
Oct. 14 -- Carjacking Brandywine/31st (with guns)
Oct. 26-- Stabbing at the Brandywine
Oct. 29-- Stabbing at Van Ness metro
Sept. 19 -- Attempted carjacking 5400 block Connecticut
Oct. 4 -- Carjacking at gas station at Connecticut/Nebraska
Sept. 9 -- Shooting Connecticut Ave/Brandywine

Only two of those are known to involve people who are living in the area here.

Oh, so 28% of the violent crime (and probably more) is tied to voucher recipients?

What's next? You gonna give a TED Talk about Welfare Queens and Linda Taylor?

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Hi everyone, my mom has lived in an apartment building in NorthWest DC for almost a decade now. Over the last two years several new people have moved into the building into new rent controlled units that the city decided the apartment complex must have. Recently two families have started having violent confrontations in the lobby together. My mom was walking into the lobby earlier this week when a fight broke out culminating in a woman beaten with a “Please sign in” metal sign and a knife being pulled. My mom was terrified and ran but now I worry that next time it could be a gun. My question is, does she have any legal recourse on recovering her security deposit and moving out given as how this is only the most recent incident in a series of violent incidents? Also there is no security guard only a front desk concierge.

Tldr; mom lives in building with new violent tenants can she get her security deposit back and move?

The above was posted on Reddit. Comments asked if this was The Brandywine.

The police report for the incident that is the subject of the thread stated that 2 females, known to one another, got into a fight and stabbed one another in the back. (Literally.) Both refused transport to the hospital. So, could, in fact, have been The Brandywine his mom lives in. Plenty of other options in Connecticut and Wisconsin corridors but there is a lot of violence INSIDE The Brandywine. Used to be so many Murch families.

I think if people with vouchers commit crimes or behave violently, they should lose the voucher and the apartment. if they have a mental illness they should be moved to places that can help them (group homes with staff onside to help with medications or mental hospitals where they cannot go out for people who are violent and a threat to themselves or others). if not, they should be kicked out of the apartment period. even assuming that housing is a right (and it's a big if), living at the taxpayer expense with 150% the already high rent in the best part of town is definitely not a right. I am sure there are plenty of lower income families that would love some help to live in the apartments on Wisconsin or CT and send their kids to local schools and that stab each other in the lobby when they have a disagreement, throw the girlfriend out of the 8th floor window or shoot around at 3pm on Saturday near a play ground. I came to DC in 2001 and rented for 10 yrs apartments on CT, first as a couple and then as a couple with two kids, lived in two different buildings and it was great.

i meant "and that DO NOT stab each other in the lobby...."

You think..
What do the people you voted for think?

Oh come on. Matt Frumin doesn't want to put people in apartments here who are violent. Quit insinuating that. Just because someone has a criminal record doesn't mean that they will be a repeat offender.

He cares more about criminals than law-abiding taxpayers. He’s made that crystal clear.

You get what you vote for.

No he hasn't. He has said that he's not for canceling or throttling back on the vouch program - which does help many, many, many families- because a few bad apples are operating within it and causing shit like this.

That's a reasonable position to take.

The program is badly mismanaged from both a financial and safety perspective. He is placing the interests of others over the interests of his constituents. There is nothing reasonable with daytime shootings, savings, and car jackings in a once quiet part of town.

Okay, but why punish the many who benefit from it by pausing or stopping the entire program?? Oh right, because any excuse to maintain exclusivity in this area is sought after and embraced quickly.

Oct — armed robbery and pistol whipping 2600 Connecticut
Oct. 14 -- Carjacking Brandywine/31st (with guns)
Oct. 26-- Stabbing at the Brandywine
Oct. 29-- Stabbing at Van Ness metro
Sept. 19 -- Attempted carjacking 5400 block Connecticut
Oct. 4 -- Carjacking at gas station at Connecticut/Nebraska
Sept. 9 -- Shooting Connecticut Ave/Brandywine

Only two of those are known to involve people who are living in the area here.

Oh, so 28% of the violent crime (and probably more) is tied to voucher recipients?

What's next? You gonna give a TED Talk about Welfare Queens and Linda Taylor?

Go to bed, boomer.

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Hi everyone, my mom has lived in an apartment building in NorthWest DC for almost a decade now. Over the last two years several new people have moved into the building into new rent controlled units that the city decided the apartment complex must have. Recently two families have started having violent confrontations in the lobby together. My mom was walking into the lobby earlier this week when a fight broke out culminating in a woman beaten with a “Please sign in” metal sign and a knife being pulled. My mom was terrified and ran but now I worry that next time it could be a gun. My question is, does she have any legal recourse on recovering her security deposit and moving out given as how this is only the most recent incident in a series of violent incidents? Also there is no security guard only a front desk concierge.

Tldr; mom lives in building with new violent tenants can she get her security deposit back and move?

The above was posted on Reddit. Comments asked if this was The Brandywine.

The police report for the incident that is the subject of the thread stated that 2 females, known to one another, got into a fight and stabbed one another in the back. (Literally.) Both refused transport to the hospital. So, could, in fact, have been The Brandywine his mom lives in. Plenty of other options in Connecticut and Wisconsin corridors but there is a lot of violence INSIDE The Brandywine. Used to be so many Murch families.

I think if people with vouchers commit crimes or behave violently, they should lose the voucher and the apartment. if they have a mental illness they should be moved to places that can help them (group homes with staff onside to help with medications or mental hospitals where they cannot go out for people who are violent and a threat to themselves or others). if not, they should be kicked out of the apartment period. even assuming that housing is a right (and it's a big if), living at the taxpayer expense with 150% the already high rent in the best part of town is definitely not a right. I am sure there are plenty of lower income families that would love some help to live in the apartments on Wisconsin or CT and send their kids to local schools and that stab each other in the lobby when they have a disagreement, throw the girlfriend out of the 8th floor window or shoot around at 3pm on Saturday near a play ground. I came to DC in 2001 and rented for 10 yrs apartments on CT, first as a couple and then as a couple with two kids, lived in two different buildings and it was great.

i meant "and that DO NOT stab each other in the lobby...."

You think..
What do the people you voted for think?

Oh come on. Matt Frumin doesn't want to put people in apartments here who are violent. Quit insinuating that. Just because someone has a criminal record doesn't mean that they will be a repeat offender.

He cares more about criminals than law-abiding taxpayers. He’s made that crystal clear.

You get what you vote for.

No he hasn't. He has said that he's not for canceling or throttling back on the vouch program - which does help many, many, many families- because a few bad apples are operating within it and causing shit like this.

That's a reasonable position to take.

The program is badly mismanaged from both a financial and safety perspective. He is placing the interests of others over the interests of his constituents. There is nothing reasonable with daytime shootings, savings, and car jackings in a once quiet part of town.

Okay, but why punish the many who benefit from it by pausing or stopping the entire program?? Oh right, because any excuse to maintain exclusivity in this area is sought after and embraced quickly.

Oct — armed robbery and pistol whipping 2600 Connecticut
Oct. 14 -- Carjacking Brandywine/31st (with guns)
Oct. 26-- Stabbing at the Brandywine
Oct. 29-- Stabbing at Van Ness metro
Sept. 19 -- Attempted carjacking 5400 block Connecticut
Oct. 4 -- Carjacking at gas station at Connecticut/Nebraska
Sept. 9 -- Shooting Connecticut Ave/Brandywine

How many people are in the area because of vouchers? A few thousand. How many of them are complicit in these crimes? Single digits. You want to send them all back to ward 7 and 8 and wreck their futures.l because of a few bad actors. F that.

It’s people like you in a safe perch who do not care at all what happens to anyone else. Lives ruined and you don’t care so you can feel good.

[Anonymous]

Not just good, wants to feel SUPERIOR is my guess.

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Hi everyone, my mom has lived in an apartment building in NorthWest DC for almost a decade now. Over the last two years several new people have moved into the building into new rent controlled units that the city decided the apartment complex must have. Recently two families have started having violent confrontations in the lobby together. My mom was walking into the lobby earlier this week when a fight broke out culminating in a woman beaten with a “Please sign in” metal sign and a knife being pulled. My mom was terrified and ran but now I worry that next time it could be a gun. My question is, does she have any legal recourse on recovering her security deposit and moving out given as how this is only the most recent incident in a series of violent incidents? Also there is no security guard only a front desk concierge.

Tldr; mom lives in building with new violent tenants can she get her security deposit back and move?

The above was posted on Reddit. Comments asked if this was The Brandywine.

The police report for the incident that is the subject of the thread stated that 2 females, known to one another, got into a fight and stabbed one another in the back. (Literally.) Both refused transport to the hospital. So, could, in fact, have been The Brandywine his mom lives in. Plenty of other options in Connecticut and Wisconsin corridors but there is a lot of violence INSIDE The Brandywine. Used to be so many Murch families.

I think if people with vouchers commit crimes or behave violently, they should lose the voucher and the apartment. if they have a mental illness they should be moved to places that can help them (group homes with staff onside to help with medications or mental hospitals where they cannot go out for people who are violent and a threat to themselves or others). if not, they should be kicked out of the apartment period. even assuming that housing is a right (and it's a big if), living at the taxpayer expense with 150% the already high rent in the best part of town is definitely not a right. I am sure there are plenty of lower income families that would love some help to live in the apartments on Wisconsin or CT and send their kids to local schools and that stab each other in the lobby when they have a disagreement, throw the girlfriend out of the 8th floor window or shoot around at 3pm on Saturday near a play ground. I came to DC in 2001 and rented for 10 yrs apartments on CT, first as a couple and then as a couple with two kids, lived in two different buildings and it was great.

i meant "and that DO NOT stab each other in the lobby...."

You think..
What do the people you voted for think?

Oh come on. Matt Frumin doesn't want to put people in apartments here who are violent. Quit insinuating that. Just because someone has a criminal record doesn't mean that they will be a repeat offender.

He cares more about criminals than law-abiding taxpayers. He’s made that crystal clear.

You get what you vote for.

No he hasn't. He has said that he's not for canceling or throttling back on the vouch program - which does help many, many, many families- because a few bad apples are operating within it and causing shit like this.

That's a reasonable position to take.

The program is badly mismanaged from both a financial and safety perspective. He is placing the interests of others over the interests of his constituents. There is nothing reasonable with daytime shootings, savings, and car jackings in a once quiet part of town.

Okay, but why punish the many who benefit from it by pausing or stopping the entire program?? Oh right, because any excuse to maintain exclusivity in this area is sought after and embraced quickly.

Oct — armed robbery and pistol whipping 2600 Connecticut
Oct. 14 -- Carjacking Brandywine/31st (with guns)
Oct. 26-- Stabbing at the Brandywine
Oct. 29-- Stabbing at Van Ness metro
Sept. 19 -- Attempted carjacking 5400 block Connecticut
Oct. 4 -- Carjacking at gas station at Connecticut/Nebraska
Sept. 9 -- Shooting Connecticut Ave/Brandywine

Only two of those are known to involve people who are living in the area here.

Oh, so 28% of the violent crime (and probably more) is tied to voucher recipients?

What's next? You gonna give a TED Talk about Welfare Queens and Linda Taylor?

Go to bed, boomer.

Not a boomer, I learned about your dog whistles in history class.

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Hi everyone, my mom has lived in an apartment building in NorthWest DC for almost a decade now. Over the last two years several new people have moved into the building into new rent controlled units that the city decided the apartment complex must have. Recently two families have started having violent confrontations in the lobby together. My mom was walking into the lobby earlier this week when a fight broke out culminating in a woman beaten with a “Please sign in” metal sign and a knife being pulled. My mom was terrified and ran but now I worry that next time it could be a gun. My question is, does she have any legal recourse on recovering her security deposit and moving out given as how this is only the most recent incident in a series of violent incidents? Also there is no security guard only a front desk concierge.

Tldr; mom lives in building with new violent tenants can she get her security deposit back and move?

The above was posted on Reddit. Comments asked if this was The Brandywine.

The police report for the incident that is the subject of the thread stated that 2 females, known to one another, got into a fight and stabbed one another in the back. (Literally.) Both refused transport to the hospital. So, could, in fact, have been The Brandywine his mom lives in. Plenty of other options in Connecticut and Wisconsin corridors but there is a lot of violence INSIDE The Brandywine. Used to be so many Murch families.

I think if people with vouchers commit crimes or behave violently, they should lose the voucher and the apartment. if they have a mental illness they should be moved to places that can help them (group homes with staff onside to help with medications or mental hospitals where they cannot go out for people who are violent and a threat to themselves or others). if not, they should be kicked out of the apartment period. even assuming that housing is a right (and it's a big if), living at the taxpayer expense with 150% the already high rent in the best part of town is definitely not a right. I am sure there are plenty of lower income families that would love some help to live in the apartments on Wisconsin or CT and send their kids to local schools and that stab each other in the lobby when they have a disagreement, throw the girlfriend out of the 8th floor window or shoot around at 3pm on Saturday near a play ground. I came to DC in 2001 and rented for 10 yrs apartments on CT, first as a couple and then as a couple with two kids, lived in two different buildings and it was great.

i meant "and that DO NOT stab each other in the lobby...."

You think..
What do the people you voted for think?

Oh come on. Matt Frumin doesn't want to put people in apartments here who are violent. Quit insinuating that. Just because someone has a criminal record doesn't mean that they will be a repeat offender.

He cares more about criminals than law-abiding taxpayers. He’s made that crystal clear.

You get what you vote for.

No he hasn't. He has said that he's not for canceling or throttling back on the vouch program - which does help many, many, many families- because a few bad apples are operating within it and causing shit like this.

That's a reasonable position to take.

The program is badly mismanaged from both a financial and safety perspective. He is placing the interests of others over the interests of his constituents. There is nothing reasonable with daytime shootings, savings, and car jackings in a once quiet part of town.

Okay, but why punish the many who benefit from it by pausing or stopping the entire program?? Oh right, because any excuse to maintain exclusivity in this area is sought after and embraced quickly.

Oct — armed robbery and pistol whipping 2600 Connecticut
Oct. 14 -- Carjacking Brandywine/31st (with guns)
Oct. 26-- Stabbing at the Brandywine
Oct. 29-- Stabbing at Van Ness metro
Sept. 19 -- Attempted carjacking 5400 block Connecticut
Oct. 4 -- Carjacking at gas station at Connecticut/Nebraska
Sept. 9 -- Shooting Connecticut Ave/Brandywine

How many people are in the area because of vouchers? A few thousand. How many of them are complicit in these crimes? Single digits. You want to send them all back to ward 7 and 8 and wreck their futures.l because of a few bad actors. F that.

It’s people like you in a safe perch who do not care at all what happens to anyone else. Lives ruined and you don’t care so you can feel good.

"Safe perch". What. I lived in Ward 5 for a long time. There was crime more severe than what you have above on my block and the ones around me. There was also a halfway shelter and a 100% affordable housing complex nearby. Every time there was a crime, I and my neighbors didn't pop off and demand the shelter close and the affordable housing be burnt to the ground. We just worked with the community where possible to ensure that folks in these areas were actually included in the community so they felt a sense of belonging to it. And that any perpetrators were caught and prosecuted.

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Hi everyone, my mom has lived in an apartment building in NorthWest DC for almost a decade now. Over the last two years several new people have moved into the building into new rent controlled units that the city decided the apartment complex must have. Recently two families have started having violent confrontations in the lobby together. My mom was walking into the lobby earlier this week when a fight broke out culminating in a woman beaten with a “Please sign in” metal sign and a knife being pulled. My mom was terrified and ran but now I worry that next time it could be a gun. My question is, does she have any legal recourse on recovering her security deposit and moving out given as how this is only the most recent incident in a series of violent incidents? Also there is no security guard only a front desk concierge.

Tldr; mom lives in building with new violent tenants can she get her security deposit back and move?

The above was posted on Reddit. Comments asked if this was The Brandywine.

The police report for the incident that is the subject of the thread stated that 2 females, known to one another, got into a fight and stabbed one another in the back. (Literally.) Both refused transport to the hospital. So, could, in fact, have been The Brandywine his mom lives in. Plenty of other options in Connecticut and Wisconsin corridors but there is a lot of violence INSIDE The Brandywine. Used to be so many Murch families.

I think if people with vouchers commit crimes or behave violently, they should lose the voucher and the apartment. if they have a mental illness they should be moved to places that can help them (group homes with staff onside to help with medications or mental hospitals where they cannot go out for people who are violent and a threat to themselves or others). if not, they should be kicked out of the apartment period. even assuming that housing is a right (and it's a big if), living at the taxpayer expense with 150% the already high rent in the best part of town is definitely not a right. I am sure there are plenty of lower income families that would love some help to live in the apartments on Wisconsin or CT and send their kids to local schools and that stab each other in the lobby when they have a disagreement, throw the girlfriend out of the 8th floor window or shoot around at 3pm on Saturday near a play ground. I came to DC in 2001 and rented for 10 yrs apartments on CT, first as a couple and then as a couple with two kids, lived in two different buildings and it was great.

i meant "and that DO NOT stab each other in the lobby...."

You think..
What do the people you voted for think?

Oh come on. Matt Frumin doesn't want to put people in apartments here who are violent. Quit insinuating that. Just because someone has a criminal record doesn't mean that they will be a repeat offender.

He cares more about criminals than law-abiding taxpayers. He’s made that crystal clear.

You get what you vote for.

No he hasn't. He has said that he's not for canceling or throttling back on the vouch program - which does help many, many, many families- because a few bad apples are operating within it and causing shit like this.

That's a reasonable position to take.

The program is badly mismanaged from both a financial and safety perspective. He is placing the interests of others over the interests of his constituents. There is nothing reasonable with daytime shootings, savings, and car jackings in a once quiet part of town.

Okay, but why punish the many who benefit from it by pausing or stopping the entire program?? Oh right, because any excuse to maintain exclusivity in this area is sought after and embraced quickly.

Oct — armed robbery and pistol whipping 2600 Connecticut
Oct. 14 -- Carjacking Brandywine/31st (with guns)
Oct. 26-- Stabbing at the Brandywine
Oct. 29-- Stabbing at Van Ness metro
Sept. 19 -- Attempted carjacking 5400 block Connecticut
Oct. 4 -- Carjacking at gas station at Connecticut/Nebraska
Sept. 9 -- Shooting Connecticut Ave/Brandywine

How many people are in the area because of vouchers? A few thousand. How many of them are complicit in these crimes? Single digits. You want to send them all back to ward 7 and 8 and wreck their futures.l because of a few bad actors. F that.

It’s people like you in a safe perch who do not care at all what happens to anyone else. Lives ruined and you don’t care so you can feel good.

"Safe perch". What. I lived in Ward 5 for a long time. There was crime more severe than what you have above on my block and the ones around me. There was also a halfway shelter and a 100% affordable housing complex nearby. Every time there was a crime, I and my neighbors didn't pop off and demand the shelter close and the affordable housing be burnt to the ground. We just worked with the community where possible to ensure that folks in these areas were actually included in the community so they felt a sense of belonging to it. And that any perpetrators were caught and prosecuted.

That's not even close to happening these days.

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Anonymous wrote:I generally loathe guns and don’t own them. But increasingly I wonder if the way to get a handle on crime in DC is if more law abiding citizens, taxi drivers, Uber drivers carried pistols with a reasonable DC stand your ground law to protect them if the are mugged, car jacked, etc. The predators might think twice before preying on others.

Same. I’m a 50-something woman who works erratic hours - so I’m often driving alone at 4 am, midnight etc. to the hospital. For the first time in my 30 years in DC I’m thoughtfully looking into pistol ownership and shooting ranges.

I’m a lifelong liberal yet I would have no remorse for lethally defending myself against violent bad actors. Like this smart man did:

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/13-year-old-shot-killed-by-off-duty-federal-security-officer-after-attempting-to-steal-officers-car/amp/

Ward 3 resident fwiw. Who raised her kids in the Forest Hills playground-turned-drug-bazaar

The offender was known to police for previous car jackings. Where were his parents? Did they even care about him?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/tragedy-dc-officials-share-new-details-on-13-year-old-killed-during-carjacking/ar-AA1j6OcA

[Anonymous]

They arrested his 12 year old accomplice today. 12 years old. Let that sink in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went back and looked at campaign issues in the last Ward 3 election. Crime was not even listed as an issue. That tells you how quickly things have spiralled out of control.

People, we need candidates! Retirees are great for this - they have plenty of time to give. Talk to your wise neighbors and colleagues, please!!

It was literally the first issue Krukoff listed! Come on people, let’s do better next time.

DC Issues

Public Safety/Support Police and the Rule of Law: Crime is on the rise. We must invest in police and empower them to do their jobs, with empathy, but with the knowledge that we have their back. We need more police officers on the beat. A cost benefit analysis must occur prior to anyone breaking the law, even for a minor offense. Homeless encampments must be appropriately removed. Clean shelters with wrap around services must exist and be utilized for DC homeless residents that qualify.

https://www.davidforward3.com/about-5

DC Ward 3 resident for 20 plus years and registered Democrat although I consider myself independent ( which is impossible to be both in this city and the country). I voted for Krukoff. Despite the R next to his name he was the best choice and the only one focused on real issues, including crime. I’m also a federal prosecutor and the handwriting has been on the DC increasing violent crime rate wall for years. I literally felt like I was the only one paying attention in the last election ( while all of my neighbors continue to fret about bike lanes) and here we are. DC voters are generally the worst and this is what happens with no true two party system. And I’m about as progressive on most social issues as they come so please don’t assume I’m a MAGA, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went back and looked at campaign issues in the last Ward 3 election. Crime was not even listed as an issue. That tells you how quickly things have spiralled out of control.

People, we need candidates! Retirees are great for this - they have plenty of time to give. Talk to your wise neighbors and colleagues, please!!

It was literally the first issue Krukoff listed! Come on people, let’s do better next time.

DC Issues

Public Safety/Support Police and the Rule of Law: Crime is on the rise. We must invest in police and empower them to do their jobs, with empathy, but with the knowledge that we have their back. We need more police officers on the beat. A cost benefit analysis must occur prior to anyone breaking the law, even for a minor offense. Homeless encampments must be appropriately removed. Clean shelters with wrap around services must exist and be utilized for DC homeless residents that qualify.

https://www.davidforward3.com/about-5

DC Ward 3 resident for 20 plus years and registered Democrat although I consider myself independent ( which is impossible to be both in this city and the country). I voted for Krukoff. Despite the R next to his name he was the best choice and the only one focused on real issues, including crime. I’m also a federal prosecutor and the handwriting has been on the DC increasing violent crime rate wall for years. I literally felt like I was the only one paying attention in the last election ( while all of my neighbors continue to fret about bike lanes) and here we are. DC voters are generally the worst and this is what happens with no true two party system. And I’m about as progressive on most social issues as they come so please don’t assume I’m a MAGA, etc.

Federal prosecutor -- what's your take on this post https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/17k87p4/why_is_washington_dc_so_violent/?

"In 2022 the [US Attorney's] office declined to prosecute 67% of local arrests (53% of felonies), up from 31% in 2016. That is much higher than in other cities: according to the Washington Post, last year Philadelphia prosecutors dropped just 4% of cases, Cook County, which includes Chicago, 14% and Detroit 33%. Such a high dismissal rate could well be discouraging police from making arrests. And though it could suggest triaging, where prosecutors prioritise slam-dunk cases, the office’s win-rate did not budge as they slimmed down their docket. That sends a message: in America’s capital, committing a crime may not have consequences."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went back and looked at campaign issues in the last Ward 3 election. Crime was not even listed as an issue. That tells you how quickly things have spiralled out of control.

People, we need candidates! Retirees are great for this - they have plenty of time to give. Talk to your wise neighbors and colleagues, please!!

It was literally the first issue Krukoff listed! Come on people, let’s do better next time.

DC Issues

Public Safety/Support Police and the Rule of Law: Crime is on the rise. We must invest in police and empower them to do their jobs, with empathy, but with the knowledge that we have their back. We need more police officers on the beat. A cost benefit analysis must occur prior to anyone breaking the law, even for a minor offense. Homeless encampments must be appropriately removed. Clean shelters with wrap around services must exist and be utilized for DC homeless residents that qualify.

https://www.davidforward3.com/about-5

DC Ward 3 resident for 20 plus years and registered Democrat although I consider myself independent ( which is impossible to be both in this city and the country). I voted for Krukoff. Despite the R next to his name he was the best choice and the only one focused on real issues, including crime. I’m also a federal prosecutor and the handwriting has been on the DC increasing violent crime rate wall for years. I literally felt like I was the only one paying attention in the last election ( while all of my neighbors continue to fret about bike lanes) and here we are. DC voters are generally the worst and this is what happens with no true two party system. And I’m about as progressive on most social issues as they come so please don’t assume I’m a MAGA, etc.

Federal prosecutor -- what's your take on this post https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/17k87p4/why_is_washington_dc_so_violent/?

"In 2022 the [US Attorney's] office declined to prosecute 67% of local arrests (53% of felonies), up from 31% in 2016. That is much higher than in other cities: according to the Washington Post, last year Philadelphia prosecutors dropped just 4% of cases, Cook County, which includes Chicago, 14% and Detroit 33%. Such a high dismissal rate could well be discouraging police from making arrests. And though it could suggest triaging, where prosecutors prioritise slam-dunk cases, the office’s win-rate did not budge as they slimmed down their docket. That sends a message: in America’s capital, committing a crime may not have consequences."

New poster--Federal Prosecutor, I'm one of your neighbors who also voted for Krucoff and agrees with what you say 100%. I also would like to know what is happening with prosecutions when people (rarely) ARE arrested. Why the low rate, and what can we do. Also, what is up with the crime lab? How is that not due for a federal takeover. Is evidence just not being processed, or is it sent out of state? Thanks for your insights!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went back and looked at campaign issues in the last Ward 3 election. Crime was not even listed as an issue. That tells you how quickly things have spiralled out of control.

People, we need candidates! Retirees are great for this - they have plenty of time to give. Talk to your wise neighbors and colleagues, please!!

It was literally the first issue Krukoff listed! Come on people, let’s do better next time.

DC Issues

Public Safety/Support Police and the Rule of Law: Crime is on the rise. We must invest in police and empower them to do their jobs, with empathy, but with the knowledge that we have their back. We need more police officers on the beat. A cost benefit analysis must occur prior to anyone breaking the law, even for a minor offense. Homeless encampments must be appropriately removed. Clean shelters with wrap around services must exist and be utilized for DC homeless residents that qualify.

https://www.davidforward3.com/about-5

DC Ward 3 resident for 20 plus years and registered Democrat although I consider myself independent ( which is impossible to be both in this city and the country). I voted for Krukoff. Despite the R next to his name he was the best choice and the only one focused on real issues, including crime. I’m also a federal prosecutor and the handwriting has been on the DC increasing violent crime rate wall for years. I literally felt like I was the only one paying attention in the last election ( while all of my neighbors continue to fret about bike lanes) and here we are. DC voters are generally the worst and this is what happens with no true two party system. And I’m about as progressive on most social issues as they come so please don’t assume I’m a MAGA, etc.

Federal prosecutor -- what's your take on this post https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/17k87p4/why_is_washington_dc_so_violent/?

"In 2022 the [US Attorney's] office declined to prosecute 67% of local arrests (53% of felonies), up from 31% in 2016. That is much higher than in other cities: according to the Washington Post, last year Philadelphia prosecutors dropped just 4% of cases, Cook County, which includes Chicago, 14% and Detroit 33%. Such a high dismissal rate could well be discouraging police from making arrests. And though it could suggest triaging, where prosecutors prioritise slam-dunk cases, the office’s win-rate did not budge as they slimmed down their docket. That sends a message: in America’s capital, committing a crime may not have consequences."

Federal prosecutor here - I do not work at the USAO but yea, this is a significant problem which requires more attention. However, most prosecutors know that DC generally has one of the highest jury nullification rates in the country so fault can’t only be placed with law enforcement and prosecutors not effectively doing their jobs. DC juries are notoriously accepting of crime, and distrustful of police ( understandable in many circumstances) and thus extremely hard to get a conviction in superior court. I have several venue options in the cases I bring and I will avoid bringing a case in DC like I’d avoid the plague. It’s a broken system and one not designed for success. And i am speaking only for myself in my personal capacity for what that’s worth.