Antisemitic incident at Blair

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...

It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.

This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?

I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?

If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?

This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.

Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).

With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?

I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)

+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.

This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.

How it is a cover up? Please explain. Who is "covering up" what?
And what consequences do you really think those kids would have already received AND the general public would know about, if it happened on Thursday or Friday?

Lastly, what suggestions do you have for what more MCPS could be doing?

Nothing happened to those kids. They should be suspended.

How do you know nothing happened to those kids?
And do you think a suspension would be determined, processed and broadly publicized in under a day?

Mcps would have announced it to make an example of them.

Do you really think that this school district, or any, would find out about an incident at lunch and process a formal suspension by end of day?

[Anonymous]

There is no pleasing some people

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...

This goes on at the W's almost monthly and although you can find dozens of posts about it here nothing is ever done to change anything.

You keep posting about it but never provide a supporting source.

These incidents were well documented on this board. Just use the search function.

Talked about, sure, but not documented.

Search turns up

164 references to blackface & Whitman
81 references to N*word cards & Whitman

Seems well documented to me.

Two events?

Those are two of the more egregious hate incidents at the W's that were even in local news but there are posts about this every few months going back years now

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...

It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.

This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?

I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?

If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?

This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.

Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).

With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?

I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)

+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.

This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.

How it is a cover up? Please explain. Who is "covering up" what?
And what consequences do you really think those kids would have already received AND the general public would know about, if it happened on Thursday or Friday?

Lastly, what suggestions do you have for what more MCPS could be doing?

Nothing happened to those kids. They should be suspended.

How do you know nothing happened to those kids?
And do you think a suspension would be determined, processed and broadly publicized in under a day?

Mcps would have announced it to make an example of them.

When has MCPS, or any other school, for that matter, publicly announced a suspension?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no pleasing some people

Right, this behavior should be celebrated because who cares who it impacts especially this weekend of all weeks. Why should our kids feel safe going to school? It’s ok they don’t feel safe as long as your kids get to behave in a hateful way.

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...

It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.

This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?

I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?

If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?

This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.

Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).

With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?

I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)

+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.

This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.

How it is a cover up? Please explain. Who is "covering up" what?
And what consequences do you really think those kids would have already received AND the general public would know about, if it happened on Thursday or Friday?

Lastly, what suggestions do you have for what more MCPS could be doing?

Nothing happened to those kids. They should be suspended.

How do you know nothing happened to those kids?
And do you think a suspension would be determined, processed and broadly publicized in under a day?

Mcps would have announced it to make an example of them.

When has MCPS, or any other school, for that matter, publicly announced a suspension?

They accounted it with the bcc attacks.

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...

It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.

This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?

I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?

If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?

This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.

Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).

With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?

I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)

+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.

This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.

How it is a cover up? Please explain. Who is "covering up" what?
And what consequences do you really think those kids would have already received AND the general public would know about, if it happened on Thursday or Friday?

Lastly, what suggestions do you have for what more MCPS could be doing?

Nothing happened to those kids. They should be suspended.

How do you know nothing happened to those kids?
And do you think a suspension would be determined, processed and broadly publicized in under a day?

Mcps would have announced it to make an example of them.

When has MCPS, or any other school, for that matter, publicly announced a suspension?

They accounted it with the bcc attacks.

Announced

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...

It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.

This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?

I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?

If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?

This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.

Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).

With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?

I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)

+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.

This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.

How it is a cover up? Please explain. Who is "covering up" what?
And what consequences do you really think those kids would have already received AND the general public would know about, if it happened on Thursday or Friday?

Lastly, what suggestions do you have for what more MCPS could be doing?

Nothing happened to those kids. They should be suspended.

How do you know nothing happened to those kids?
And do you think a suspension would be determined, processed and broadly publicized in under a day?

Mcps would have announced it to make an example of them.

When has MCPS, or any other school, for that matter, publicly announced a suspension?

+1 Even the kid who did a brutal attack during the BCC-WJ melee didn't have his suspension publicly announced. That's not a thing that MCPS does.

Again, this just happened and we (the general public) cannot expect to hear the private disciplinary proceedings of an individual child or children.

[Anonymous]

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...

This goes on at the W's almost monthly and although you can find dozens of posts about it here nothing is ever done to change anything.

You keep posting about it but never provide a supporting source.

These incidents were well documented on this board. Just use the search function.

Talked about, sure, but not documented.

Search turns up

164 references to blackface & Whitman
81 references to N*word cards & Whitman

Seems well documented to me.

Two events?

Those are two of the more egregious hate incidents at the W's that were even in local news but there are posts about this every few months going back years now

There have been more than two.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no pleasing some people

Right, this behavior should be celebrated because who cares who it impacts especially this weekend of all weeks. Why should our kids feel safe going to school? It’s ok they don’t feel safe as long as your kids get to behave in a hateful way.

The kids don't care. The parents freak out about it.

[Anonymous]

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...

This goes on at the W's almost monthly and although you can find dozens of posts about it here nothing is ever done to change anything.

You keep posting about it but never provide a supporting source.

These incidents were well documented on this board. Just use the search function.

Talked about, sure, but not documented.

Search turns up

164 references to blackface & Whitman
81 references to N*word cards & Whitman

Seems well documented to me.

Two events?

And 90% of those references are the same poster bringing those two incidents up on a tangentially-relayed thread.

Hardly, I find it disgusting that these W schools get away with this pattern of behavior. We read about here almost monthly and it seems to be an ongoing problem for years. And now this W behavior spreading to places like Blair!

[Anonymous]

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...

This goes on at the W's almost monthly and although you can find dozens of posts about it here nothing is ever done to change anything.

You keep posting about it but never provide a supporting source.

These incidents were well documented on this board. Just use the search function.

Talked about, sure, but not documented.

Search turns up

164 references to blackface & Whitman
81 references to N*word cards & Whitman

Seems well documented to me.

Two events?

Those are two of the more egregious hate incidents at the W's that were even in local news but there are posts about this every few months going back years now

There have been more than two.

So you keep saying, but you haven't shown us any evidence

[Anonymous]

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...

This goes on at the W's almost monthly and although you can find dozens of posts about it here nothing is ever done to change anything.

You keep posting about it but never provide a supporting source.

These incidents were well documented on this board. Just use the search function.

Talked about, sure, but not documented.

Search turns up

164 references to blackface & Whitman
81 references to N*word cards & Whitman

Seems well documented to me.

Two events?

And 90% of those references are the same poster bringing those two incidents up on a tangentially-relayed thread.

Hardly, I find it disgusting that these W schools get away with this pattern of behavior. We read about here almost monthly and it seems to be an ongoing problem for years. And now this W behavior spreading to places like Blair!

I guess the W kids are the trendsetters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no pleasing some people

Right, this behavior should be celebrated because who cares who it impacts especially this weekend of all weeks. Why should our kids feel safe going to school? It’s ok they don’t feel safe as long as your kids get to behave in a hateful way.

I don’t understand what exactly you want MCPS to do. They cannot stop every hate speech incident just like they cannot control every hallway fight or drug deals in the bathrooms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no pleasing some people

Right, this behavior should be celebrated because who cares who it impacts especially this weekend of all weeks. Why should our kids feel safe going to school? It’s ok they don’t feel safe as long as your kids get to behave in a hateful way.

The kids don't care. The parents freak out about it.

Of course they care but they know better than to speak up and be targeted.